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    The Sioux at Wounded Knee

     
    December 29, 2012 marked the 122nd Anniversary of the murder of 297 Sioux Indians at Wounded Knee Creek on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation in South Dakota.  These 297 people, in their winter camp, were murdered by federal agents and members of the 7th Cavalry who had come to confiscate their firearms “for their own safety and protection.”  The slaughter began after the majority of the Sioux had peacefully turned in their firearms.  The Calvary began shooting, and managed to wipe out the entire camp.  Two hundred of the 297 victims were women and children.  About 40 members of the 7th Cavalry were killed, but over half of them were victims of fratricide ("friendly fire") from the Hotchkiss guns of their overzealous comrades-in-arms.  Twenty members of the 7th Cavalry's death squad were deemed “National Heroes” and were awarded the Medal of Honor for their acts of ‘heroism’.

    We hear very little of Wounded Knee today.  It is usually not mentioned in our history classes or books.  What little that does exist about Wounded Knee is normally a sanitized “Official Government Explanation”.  And there are several historically inaccurate depictions of the events leading up to the massacre which appear in movie scripts and are not  representative of the actual brutal events that took place that day.

    Wounded Knee was among the first federally backed gun confiscation attempts in United States history.  It ended in the brutal, unwarranted, unjust murder of 297 people.

    Before you jump on the emotionally charged bandwagon for gun-control, take a moment to reflect on the real purpose of the Second Amendment, the right of the people to take up arms in defense of themselves, their families, and property in the face of an invading army or an oppressive government.  The argument that the Second Amendment only applies to hunting and target shooting is asinine.  When the United States Constitution was drafted, hunting was an everyday chore carried out by men and women to put meat on the table each day.  Target shooting was an unheard of concept.  Musket balls were a precious commodity and were certainly not wasted on target shooting.  The Second Amendment was written by people who fled oppressive and tyrannical regimes in Europe, and it refers to the right of American citizens to be armed, should such tyranny arise in the United States.

    As time goes forward, the average citizen in the United States continually loses little chunks of personal freedom or “liberty”.  Far too many times, unjust gun control bills were passed and signed into law under the guise of “for your safety or protection”.  The Patriot Act signed into law by G.W. Bush, was expanded and continues under Barack Obama.  It is just one of many examples of American citizens being stripped of their rights and privacy.  Now, the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is on the table and will most likely be attacked to facilitate the path for the removal of our firearms, all in the name of safety.

    Before we blindly accept whatever new firearms legislation that is about to be doled out, we should stop and think about something for just one minute.  

    Evil does exist in our world.  It always has and always will.  Throughout history evil people have committed evil acts.  In the Bible one of the first stories is that of Cain killing Abel.  We cannot legislate evil into extinction.

    Evil exists all around us, but looking back at the historical record of the past 200 years, across the globe, evil and malevolence is most often found in the hands of those with the power, the governments.  That greatest human tragedies on record and the largest loss of innocent human life can be attributed to governments.  Who do the governments always target?  Scapegoats and enemies within their own border, but only after they have been disarmed to the point where they are no longer a threat.  Ask any Native American, and they will tell you it was inferior technology and lack of arms that contributed to their demise.  Ask any Armenian why it was so easy for the Turks to exterminate millions of them and they will answer “We were disarmed before it happened”. This pattern has occurred many times throughout history.

    Wounded Knee is the prime example of why the Second Amendment exists and why we should vehemently resist any attempts to infringe on our Rights to Bear Arms.  Without the Second Amendment we will be stripped of any ability to defend ourselves.
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    Offline Traditional Guy 20

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    « Reply #1 on: July 12, 2013, 12:07:57 PM »
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  • Ah yes another libeal article obsessing over "freedom and civil rights!" :rolleyes:

    Obviously this liberal article would never mention Indian attacks against pioneers. Nope it's all about those evil white men who raped the continent and massacred its "noble inhabitants" of savages.

    Instead of obsessing over supposed "spying" because of that NSA why can't we obsess over the real lack of freedom when it comes to affirmative action, where it is all race-based and minorities, women, and the mentally ill are given positions over healthy white males?


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    « Reply #2 on: July 12, 2013, 03:27:34 PM »
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  • While there has been a lot of revisionist history dealing with the relations between whites and indians, particularly anti-Catholic venom against the missionaries, and yes "there have been bad things done by both sides," in general the US government has acted in bad faith toward the indians throughout most of its history, violating treaties left and right and committing organized mass murder, forced relocations and other federally sanctioned atrocities.

    "Just the facts, m'am."
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    « Reply #3 on: July 12, 2013, 03:52:51 PM »
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  • Quote from: MiserereMeiDeus
    While there has been a lot of revisionist history dealing with the relations between whites and indians, particularly anti-Catholic venom against the missionaries, and yes "there have been bad things done by both sides," in general the US government has acted in bad faith toward the indians throughout most of its history, violating treaties left and right and committing organized mass murder, forced relocations and other federally sanctioned atrocities.

    "Just the facts, m'am."


    How very 1960's/Cultural Marxist/Herbert Marcuse of you. :wink:

    It was all about a higher race shoving aside another to conquer the continent. Call it racist all you want but even Churchill said it was a great thing that the Red Indian and the Aborigine were put side so that a higher race should rule. :wink:

    One could also mention the American Indian practice of human sacrifice, cannibalism, tomahawking of early settlers, etc. and in terms of culture the American Indian didn't even have knowledge of the wheel. It is obvious that Western culture is superior.

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    « Reply #4 on: July 12, 2013, 04:23:12 PM »
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  • Quote from: Traditional Guy 20
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    While there has been a lot of revisionist history dealing with the relations between whites and indians, particularly anti-Catholic venom against the missionaries, and yes "there have been bad things done by both sides," in general the US government has acted in bad faith toward the indians throughout most of its history, violating treaties left and right and committing organized mass murder, forced relocations and other federally sanctioned atrocities.

    "Just the facts, m'am."


    How very 1960's/Cultural Marxist/Herbert Marcuse of you. :wink:

    It was all about a higher race shoving aside another to conquer the continent. Call it racist all you want but even Churchill said it was a great thing that the Red Indian and the Aborigine were put side so that a higher race should rule. :wink:

    One could also mention the American Indian practice of human sacrifice, cannibalism, tomahawking of early settlers, etc. and in terms of culture the American Indian didn't even have knowledge of the wheel. It is obvious that Western culture is superior.


    You spit in the face of every missionary that tried to convert the Indians. St. Isaac Jogues, Goupil, Lalande, were men that gave up their own lives so that others may know God.  These men are the true conquerors!   North America would be more Catholic today if  white men acted like Father De Smet toward the Indians.


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    « Reply #5 on: July 13, 2013, 08:51:23 AM »
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    Instead of a missionary spirit we had a spirit of domination
    and subjugation.  The same agenda that gave the Calvinists
    and Puritans to destroy the numerous missions on the
    Eastern seaboard was behind the so-called manifest destiny
    that waged war all across the fruited plain from sea to
    shining sea.


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    « Reply #6 on: July 15, 2013, 12:24:57 PM »
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  • Our Lady of Guadalupe converted millions of souls, and didn't disarm and then kill anyone!

    "Jesus was the fruit of Mary, as Elizabeth expressed it: 'Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.' Whoever wishes for the fruit, must go to the tree; whoever wishes for Jesus must go to Mary; and he who finds Mary, also certain

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    « Reply #7 on: July 15, 2013, 12:48:32 PM »
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    Wounded Knee is the prime example of why the Second Amendment exists and why we should vehemently resist any attempts to infringe on our Rights to Bear Arms.  Without the Second Amendment we will be stripped of any ability to defend ourselves.


    Exactly. What happened to the Sioux can happen anywhere. Some may think that these sorts of atrocities don't or can't occur anymore, but it would be dangerous to believe this. Our Founding Fathers (though some of thier views were of course flawed) wanted citizens to have the right to defend themselves against an enemy - foreign or domestic.


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    « Reply #8 on: July 15, 2013, 01:06:20 PM »
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  • I just love the smell of black powder smoke in the morning. Ahhhh!
    "Jesus was the fruit of Mary, as Elizabeth expressed it: 'Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.' Whoever wishes for the fruit, must go to the tree; whoever wishes for Jesus must go to Mary; and he who finds Mary, also certain

     

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