Author Topic: Women wearing pants poll (Read 16206 times)

Disputaciones · « **on:** October 26, 2014, 03:16:08 AM »

I'm not starting it here, I was just wondering if there have been polls here on where people stand on this issue.

OHCA · « **Reply #1 on:** October 26, 2014, 07:08:41 AM »

This topics has been beat to death.

Please use the search function. I just looked at what you can find. Be sure to deselect the last option in the right column that limits the time-frame that you're searching.

Just put in search bar: women pants

You'll be able to read until you have your fill--which for me just now was skimming 3 posts.

TheKnightVigilant · « **Reply #2 on:** October 26, 2014, 08:49:07 AM »

I for one think the topic is absurdly over-emphasised in trad circles. Sure, I agree it isn't ideal, but with the state of things today don't we have more important things to concern ourselves with?

SoldierOfChrist · « **Reply #3 on:** October 26, 2014, 08:58:10 AM »

Quote from: TheKnightVigilant

I for one think the topic is absurdly over-emphasised in trad circles. Sure, I agree it isn't ideal, but with the state of things today don't we have more important things to concern ourselves with?

Every piece of Tradition must be restored. That doesn't happen by leaving out details. I find the topic totally fitting to Catholic discussion. Especially considering all of the androgeny that is spreading like wildfire. Men dress like men; women dress like women. It has to be stated and often repeated.

Jehanne · « **Reply #4 on:** October 26, 2014, 10:47:25 AM »

Quote from: TheKnightVigilant

I for one think the topic is absurdly over-emphasised in trad circles. Sure, I agree it isn't ideal, but with the state of things today don't we have more important things to concern ourselves with?

To compromise on one moral or doctrinal question is to start on a slippery slope. As I have already written on this, I am not going to repeat here what I have wrote elsewhere:

http://unamsanctamecclesiamcatholicam.blogspot.com/2011/04/women-girls-should-only-wear-skirts.html

In any case, it is such a small sacrifice, isn't it? At least "generally speaking"? Especially, for adult women? (I can, of course, understand a girl in a public elementary, middle school, or high school wearing pants due to the harassment of always wearing skirts.)

OHCA · « **Reply #5 on:** October 26, 2014, 11:57:56 AM »

Quote from: Jehanne

Quote from: TheKnightVigilant
I for one think the topic is absurdly over-emphasised in trad circles. Sure, I agree it isn't ideal, but with the state of things today don't we have more important things to concern ourselves with?

To compromise on one moral or doctrinal question is to start on a slippery slope. As I have already written on this, I am not going to repeat here what I have wrote elsewhere:

http://unamsanctamecclesiamcatholicam.blogspot.com/2011/04/women-girls-should-only-wear-skirts.html

In any case, it is such a small sacrifice, isn't it? At least "generally speaking"? Especially, for adult women? (I can, of course, understand a girl in a public elementary, middle school, or high school wearing pants due to the harassment of always wearing skirts.)

I am strongly against women in pants. But I agree that there are much bigger issues, one of which is Catholic children in public schools. What gives?!?!

In fact, I would argue that in the rare instances that Catholic children must be in public schools, of all places, is where we must rigidly stick to principles. Wow!! I just don't get your logic on this one...

awkwardcustomer · « **Reply #6 on:** October 26, 2014, 12:21:56 PM »

Why don't Trads stop arguing over such petty, inconsequential issues as women wearing pants and do something heroic for a change?

Like fasting on a freezing mountainside for the conversion of sinners.

Or being a hermit under a blazing desert sun for the restoration of Holy Mother Church?

After all, every piece of Tradition has to be restored, as SoldierofChrist said.

Oh, I know the answer. Arguing over women in pants is so much easier, and comfortable.

TheKnightVigilant · « **Reply #7 on:** October 26, 2014, 12:50:37 PM »

Quote from: SoldierOfChrist

Quote from: TheKnightVigilant
I for one think the topic is absurdly over-emphasised in trad circles. Sure, I agree it isn't ideal, but with the state of things today don't we have more important things to concern ourselves with?

Every piece of Tradition must be restored. That doesn't happen by leaving out details. I find the topic totally fitting to Catholic discussion. Especially considering all of the androgeny that is spreading like wildfire. Men dress like men; women dress like women. It has to be stated and often repeated.

I think it should be stated. I don't think it should be treated like a dogma of the faith.

The bottom line is that there are more important things that need to be stated and often repeated. Overemphasizing the comparatively petty details just serves to alienate people from the overall message.

Jehanne · « **Reply #8 on:** October 26, 2014, 01:17:56 PM »

Quote from: OHCA

I am strongly against women in pants. But I agree that there are much bigger issues, one of which is Catholic children in public schools. What gives?!?!

In fact, I would argue that in the rare instances that Catholic children must be in public schools, of all places, is where we must rigidly stick to principles. Wow!! I just don't get your logic on this one...

I have five children, one of whom is profoundly disabled. We cannot educate him at home; as such, he attends public school. Likewise, my other four children also attend (or, will attend) public school (my youngest is not yet formally enrolled, but will be here next year), as I have to work multiple jobs to support our family. My wife is a full-time mom, and a significant amount of her schedule is swamped with health-care appointments for our disabled son, but also for my two other sons, both of whom have learning disabilities. She simply does not have time to run any home-school program.

Resolute · « **Reply #9 on:** October 26, 2014, 01:38:01 PM »

Funny thing, everybody hates to see a woman in a solid, decent skirt these days. Some man was even crude about it to me. Guess it's having a good effect on their consciences. I think it tells the men that I expect them to be men.

OHCA · « **Reply #10 on:** October 26, 2014, 01:43:57 PM »

Quote from: Jehanne

Quote from: OHCA
I am strongly against women in pants. But I agree that there are much bigger issues, one of which is Catholic children in public schools. What gives?!?!

In fact, I would argue that in the rare instances that Catholic children must be in public schools, of all places, is where we must rigidly stick to principles. Wow!! I just don't get your logic on this one...

I have five children, one of whom is profoundly disabled. We cannot educate him at home; as such, he attends public school. Likewise, my other four children also attend (or, will attend) public school (my youngest is not yet formally enrolled, but will be here next year), as I have to work multiple jobs to support our family. My wife is a full-time mom, and a significant amount of her schedule is swamped with health-care appointments for our disabled son, but also for my two other sons, both of whom have learning disabilities. She simply does not have time to run any home-school program.

Ok--perhaps yours is one of the rare cases where there's not much choice other than secular indoctrination. But why instill the "go along to get along" "submit to peer pressure (a/k/a the world)" mentality in them by not having them wear skirts. Do you want the boys in school ogling your daughters in pants? Why not have a "they don't have the Faith but we do; be nice to them but we do things differently because they don't know/understand what we do" talk.

Disputaciones · « **Reply #11 on:** October 26, 2014, 01:52:20 PM »

Quote from: OHCA

But why instill the "go along to get along" "submit to peer pressure (a/k/a the world)" mentality in them by not having them wear skirts. Do you want the boys in school ogling your daughters in pants? Why not have a "they don't have the Faith but we do; be nice to them but we do things differently because they don't know/understand what we do" talk.

I see this ridiculous excuse thrown around a lot in order for some women to justify themselves wearing pants. "Oh, I will stand out too much." "Oh, I will cause them to sin by them getting angry at me because I don't dress like them." "Oh, one mustn't stand out like a sore thumb." and things like that.

Where did they come up with that?

shin · « **Reply #12 on:** October 26, 2014, 02:01:27 PM »

'Nothing represents an object more faithfully or clearly than a mirror. In the same way, nothing more widely represents the good or bad qualities of a soul than the greater or lesser regulation of the exterior, as when one appears more or less modest. You must be modest in speech, modest in laughter, modest in your bearing, modest in walking. All this must be practiced, not out of vanity in order to display one's self, nor out of hypocrisy in order to appear to be good to the eyes of others, but rather, for the internal virtue of modesty, which regulates the external workings of the body.'

St. Padre Pio

St. Padre Pio and God's Will Regarding Modesty

St. Padre Pio pray for us!

Cantarella · « **Reply #13 on:** October 26, 2014, 02:47:27 PM »

Women & girls should only wear skirts and/or dresses. Pants are unflattering and immodest. Catholic ladies are to strive for Mary-Like Modesty. One of the first steps of the feminist agenda was women wearing pants yes, it is a visible sign of either feminism, liberalism, or honest ignorance / brainwashing. Often times, our appearance (externals) reveal our state of soul and inner disposition.

We, as Catholic counter-revolutionaries, should return to the proper Christian order in which people dress with modesty, dignity, and decorum.

"A woman shall not be clothed with mans apparel, neither shall a man use woman's apparel: for he is abominable before God that doeth these things." (Deuteronomy xxii, 5)

http://www.catholicapologetics.info/morality/modesty/cathdres.htm

Jehanne · « **Reply #14 on:** October 26, 2014, 04:20:20 PM »

Quote from: OHCA

Quote from: Jehanne
Quote from: OHCA
I am strongly against women in pants. But I agree that there are much bigger issues, one of which is Catholic children in public schools. What gives?!?!

In fact, I would argue that in the rare instances that Catholic children must be in public schools, of all places, is where we must rigidly stick to principles. Wow!! I just don't get your logic on this one...

I have five children, one of whom is profoundly disabled. We cannot educate him at home; as such, he attends public school. Likewise, my other four children also attend (or, will attend) public school (my youngest is not yet formally enrolled, but will be here next year), as I have to work multiple jobs to support our family. My wife is a full-time mom, and a significant amount of her schedule is swamped with health-care appointments for our disabled son, but also for my two other sons, both of whom have learning disabilities. She simply does not have time to run any home-school program.

Ok--perhaps yours is one of the rare cases where there's not much choice other than secular indoctrination. But why instill the "go along to get along" "submit to peer pressure (a/k/a the world)" mentality in them by not having them wear skirts. Do you want the boys in school ogling your daughters in pants? Why not have a "they don't have the Faith but we do; be nice to them but we do things differently because they don't know/understand what we do" talk.

When my wife wore long skirts in public, old ladies would come-up to her and make rude comments, so she stopped doing it. I have not "forced" this issue upon her, because she has so many other stressors (including me) in her life. But, still, I am very supportive of the discipline and practice, if only for theological reasons.