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Offline Jaynek

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Re: Women lust impurity
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2018, 09:09:36 PM »
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  • That curse upon the woman has little to do with lust. Women have other faults which include pride, vanity and attention seeking. That doesn't necessarily make them lustful by nature. Man is more predisposed to lust than woman.

    This is a relatively recent idea.  Historically in the West, women were seen as the ones more prone to lust.  Wikipedia puts it this way: 
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    Medieval women were assumed to be far more insatiable than men and a woman’s lust would have been considered her ultimate sin. She was believed to receive far more pleasure from a sɛҳuąƖ encounter than men and reach her sɛҳuąƖ readiness far earlier than men. Perceived as more sɛҳuąƖly mature than males, women were expected to conduct themselves to higher standards than men, leading to a double standard of sɛҳuąƖ morality.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_female_sɛҳuąƖity

    One can see this perception illustrated in Chaucer's Canterbury Tales.


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    Re: Women lust impurity
    « Reply #16 on: April 30, 2018, 09:17:39 PM »
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  • This is a relatively recent idea.  Historically in the West, women were seen as the ones more prone to lust.  Wikipedia puts it this way: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_female_sɛҳuąƖity

    One can see this perception illustrated in Chaucer's Canterbury Tales.
    Indeed, read the Old Testament book of Proverbs, which warns men of lustful women.

    One must also ask about the "Chastity belt" which was used in the West whenever husbands left their wives for a period of time.

    In my own family, two of my brothers had wives that had secret affairs. One of my brothers, mindful of the advice given in Hosea (another Old Testament book) forgave his wife and sought pastoral help to keep the marriage alive.
    Lord have mercy.


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    Re: Women lust impurity
    « Reply #17 on: April 30, 2018, 09:39:32 PM »
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    Medieval women ... was believed to receive far more pleasure from a sɛҳuąƖ encounter than men and reach her sɛҳuąƖ readiness far earlier than men. Perceived as more sɛҳuąƖly mature than males, women were expected to conduct themselves to higher standards than men, leading to a double standard of sɛҳuąƖ morality.
    Do these amount to lust? Wiki refers to pleasure, readiness, maturity. None of these touch on the sinfulness aspect.
    I don't know how reliable are these ideas relating to another age.


    According to Catholic Encyclopedia:
    Lust

    [color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.87)]The inordinate craving for, or indulgence of, the carnal pleasure which is experienced in the human organs of generation.[/color]
    [color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.87)]The wrongfulness of lust is reducible to this: that venereal satisfaction is sought for either outside wedlock or, at any rate, in a manner which is contrary to the laws that govern marital intercourse. Every such criminal indulgence is a mortal sin, provided of course, it be voluntary in itself and fully deliberate. This is the testimony of St. Paul in the Epistle to the Galatians, v. 19:[/color]
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    [color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.87)]"Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are fornication, uncleanness, immodesty, luxury, . . . Of the which I foretell you, as I have foretold to you, that they who do such things shall not obtain the kingdom of God."[/color]
    I haven't read Canterbury Tales.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

    Offline Maria Regina

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    Re: Women lust impurity
    « Reply #18 on: May 01, 2018, 01:16:20 AM »
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  • Women in the work force are tempted to sell their souls through sɛҳuąƖ immorality to gain an advancement in salary. Recently, there have been many news stories concerning this matter in the Mainstream Media (MSM).

    Women who go to most colleges are in jeopardy of losing their virginity and their souls, especially if they live in dormitories or have joined sororities.

    Fathers and husbands need to protect their children and wives and guide them in the faith.

    Lord have mercy.

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    Re: Women lust impurity
    « Reply #19 on: May 01, 2018, 03:01:51 AM »
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  • Women are more prone to engaging in fornication & adultery 2-5 days before their menstruation.
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)


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    Re: Women lust impurity
    « Reply #20 on: May 01, 2018, 01:51:33 PM »
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  • Men give in to lust.

    Women give in to exhibitionism and vanity.  It is vanity and self-indulgence that causes women to give in to the temptation of making men lust after them.


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    Re: Women lust impurity
    « Reply #21 on: May 01, 2018, 02:50:27 PM »
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  • Men have higher sex drives since testosterone is the hormone that regulates it(even women with higher test are more lustful than women with lower test). However men have much less opportunities to act on these urges as women have far higher standards than men, so the average Joe Bloggs probably won't get into an affair.  Women, while less lustful, would have it much easier seeking an affair if she did want one. So a husband must still be careful. 

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    Re: Women lust impurity
    « Reply #22 on: May 01, 2018, 03:53:04 PM »
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  • Women are more prone to engaging in fornication & adultery 2-5 days before their menstruation.
    FALSE

    Many women experience PMS 1 to 5 days prior to their menses.
    Lord have mercy.


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    Re: Women lust impurity
    « Reply #23 on: May 01, 2018, 05:46:31 PM »
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  • I think women are prone to the sins of pride and vanity which can lead them to use their bodies to entice men but much less so lust - stemming from the urge for physical stimulation. 

    More conservative societies do actively seek to control how women express their sɛҳuąƖity not because women are lustful but because immodestly and lack of chastity in women draws men who struggle to resist lustful thoughts into sin. 

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    Re: Women lust impurity
    « Reply #24 on: May 01, 2018, 07:28:24 PM »
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  • Women are more prone to engaging in fornication & adultery 2-5 days before their menstruation.

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    Maria Regina said:
    FALSE
    Many women experience PMS 1 to 5 days prior to their menses.
    You are both talking about different things.
    Women are more prone to sin 2-5 days before menstruation?? Do you have a reference for that, Croix?
    And what has PMS to do with lust?
    I know that women's desire for sex peaks at ovulation.
    Also it seems that some people here are confusing sɛҳuąƖ desire with lust.
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    Re: Women lust impurity
    « Reply #25 on: May 01, 2018, 07:39:10 PM »
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  • A desire for potentially procreative sex with your husband around ovulation is hardly lustfull. It is how God intended marriage. 


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    Re: Women lust impurity
    « Reply #26 on: May 01, 2018, 10:15:45 PM »
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  • You are both talking about different things.
    Women are more prone to sin 2-5 days before menstruation?? Do you have a reference for that, Croix?
    And what has PMS to do with lust?
    I know that women's desire for sex peaks at ovulation.
    Also it seems that some people here are confusing sɛҳuąƖ desire with lust.

    Women suffering from PMS are in pain. Thus, PMS pain would inhibit any lustful thoughts. Since PMS is the most miserable time of the month for most women, they would be unlikely to engage in social activities such as dating, going to a restaurant. or dancing, etc. Instead, they are likely to stay in bed and eat comfort food like chocolate, which can make their symptoms worst.

    When I was diagnosed with PMS, my doctor prescribed Vitamin B6 (100 mg) along with Magnesium (400 mg) at bedtime. My friends and I found that a cup of brown rice and a dish of stirred fried vegetables served at dinner worked like a charm when followed up with the B6 and Magnesium at bedtime.

    See the summary of PMS below from  https://medlineplus.gov/premenstrualsyndrome.html .


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    Summary

    Premenstrual syndrome, or PMS, is a group of symptoms that start one to two weeks before your period. Most women have at least some symptoms of PMS, and the symptoms go away after their periods start. For some women, the symptoms are severe enough to interfere with their lives. They have a type of PMS called premenstrual dysphoric disorder, or PMDD.

    Common PMS symptoms include

    • Breast swelling and tenderness
    • Acne
    • Bloating and weight gain
    • Pain - headache or joint pain
    • Food cravings
    • Irritability, mood swings, crying spells, depression
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    No one knows what causes PMS, but hormonal changes trigger the symptoms. No single PMS treatment works for everyone. Over-the-counter pain relievers such as ibuprofen, aspirin or naproxen may help ease cramps, headaches, backaches and breast tenderness. Exercising, getting enough sleep, and avoiding salt, caffeine, and alcohol can also help.

    Lord have mercy.

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    Re: Women lust impurity
    « Reply #27 on: May 01, 2018, 10:21:31 PM »
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  • A desire for potentially procreative sex with your husband around ovulation is hardly lustfull. It is how God intended marriage.
    Very true.
    Lord have mercy.

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    Re: Women lust impurity
    « Reply #28 on: May 02, 2018, 03:28:03 AM »
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  • FALSE

    Many women experience PMS 1 to 5 days prior to their menses.

     :facepalm:
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    Re: Women lust impurity
    « Reply #29 on: May 02, 2018, 03:29:57 AM »
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  • A desire for potentially procreative sex with your husband around ovulation is hardly lustfull.

    Strawman.
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)