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Offline Telesphorus

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Women favor gun control much more than men
« on: April 13, 2013, 01:16:59 AM »
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  • http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/explaining-the-gender-gap-on-gun-control-20130412

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    Those already in Obama’s coalition—nonwhites and college-educated white women—support stricter gun laws. In a 2012 Pew survey, 61 percent of all nonwhite adults and college-educated white women said controlling gun ownership was more important than gun rights.


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    « Reply #1 on: April 13, 2013, 09:40:03 AM »
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    http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/explaining-the-gender-gap-on-gun-control-20130412

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    Those already in Obama’s coalition—nonwhites and college-educated white women—support stricter gun laws. In a 2012 Pew survey, 61 percent of all nonwhite adults and college-educated white women said controlling gun ownership was more important than gun rights.


    It's no secret that women don't like guns, anymore than men like shopping.  On the other hand, mr. feldman, the author of the article, seems to think that this proves republicans should stop being pro gun, in order to attract more women.  It makes me wonder why he doesn't think that democrats should be more pro gun, in order to attract more white men   :confused1:
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    « Reply #2 on: April 13, 2013, 12:11:53 PM »
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  • And the sad thing is it probably stems from their virtuous side. What I'm saying is the causes that many women support these days, gαy rights, gun laws, even abortion they do because they are misguided rather than because they are innately evil. It's almost as if the enemy has been able to harness the nicer qualities of women and is using them for evil.  

    If I'm not mistaken in the early years of Christendom it was the women who were the most fervent. Why wouldn't today's women be the same, certainly they are not designed any differently than those early Christian women.

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    « Reply #3 on: April 13, 2013, 12:15:54 PM »
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    And the sad thing is it probably stems from their virtuous side.


    No, I strongly disagree with that.  The cowardice of the fallen female is has nothing to do with virtue.  Women's support for abortion is the ultimate expression of that cowardice.

    They want men to be under their control, it's just that simple.

    It's important to note: "college educated"

    These women think that living like whores and drawing a salary for a phony  career set aside for them puts them above the common man.

    So murdering babies, giving babies to sodomites to raise, etc, this is just how their degenerate minds function - they watch what the abortion loving Jєωs put on TV - and that's what determines their thinking.

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    « Reply #4 on: April 13, 2013, 01:14:29 PM »
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  • Well not this college educated white woman!  I do not favor firearm regulations, I think everyone should be armed, it makes for a polite society.  

    What does it mean to "like" guns?  They are not pets but are tools to be used for specific purposes and I think everyone should learn how to operate them just like everyone should learn how to drive a car.  Both are tools used for specific purposes; both can be "toys" and used for fun.  It is not my idea of fun to spend Saturdays running scenarios out in the desert, but I also don't work on my car for fun in spite of the fact that I can do both when necessary.

    It is probably true that a typical woman does not have the same propensity towards tools that a typical man does but that does not mean we do not want to learn how to use them effectively for our needs.

    If true, it is a shame that the Newton shooting made women think that more gun laws would prevent another mass shooting when in fact the opposite is true.  One trained adult could have put a stop to it.  Prevented it?  No.  Minimized the casualties? Yes.  See this article for law enforcement's take on the subject:

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    On a side note, I would fully support firearm education classes (including range time) in our public schools starting in 6th grade.  (although my own kids learned to shoot at 8 that is probably too early for group lessons) A semester of proper training every year from grades 6 - 12 would ingrain in them a proper understanding and respect for firearms.

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    « Reply #5 on: April 13, 2013, 01:29:09 PM »
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  • I put women and guns in the same category as women and working:  perhaps necessary at times, but always inadvisable.  
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    « Reply #6 on: April 13, 2013, 01:45:26 PM »
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    And the sad thing is it probably stems from their virtuous side.


    No, I strongly disagree with that.  The cowardice of the fallen female is has nothing to do with virtue.  Women's support for abortion is the ultimate expression of that cowardice.

    They want men to be under their control, it's just that simple.

    It's important to note: "college educated"

    These women think that living like whores and drawing a salary for a phony  career set aside for them puts them above the common man.

    So murdering babies, giving babies to sodomites to raise, etc, this is just how their degenerate minds function - they watch what the abortion loving Jєωs put on TV - and that's what determines their thinking.


    Well, yes, their morality has been perverted from a young age. But I'm thinking of a few girls I've run into over the years that really supported the liberal agenda, particularly gαy rights. They weren't really bad, it's just their sense of right and wrong was messed up, I got the feeling that they would do the right thing if only they could figure, out or be covinced, of what the right thing was. One, I tried to give some literature which she flatly refused, but I manage to plant some seeds which might help her to snap out of her liberal mindset eventually.

    Also, they became very emotional when their belief system was challenged, it's almost like they were emotionally programmed (brainwashed) by movies like Boys Don't Cry.

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    « Reply #7 on: April 13, 2013, 02:01:24 PM »
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  • I think brainwashing is a good way to describe that.  A lot of men are brainwashed too.  Although, there is no doubt that the methods being used to control us do appeal to our vices.  On the other hand, there's always some kind of rationalization to deal with the fear, shame and guilt that our God given conscience produces and our right reason would see, if not suppressed/confused/distracted.  
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    « Reply #8 on: April 13, 2013, 02:02:52 PM »
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  • Still, there is the temptation to "play the game" in order to gain the power.  I guess that's the "carrrot!"  
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    « Reply #9 on: April 13, 2013, 02:16:13 PM »
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    Well, yes, their morality has been perverted from a young age.


    15 years ago who believed in this idea of giving sodomites some sort of legal "marriage"?

    I'm afraid you are underestimating the wickedness of many of these women.  They are more than willing to accompany the sodomites beating on Lot's door.


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    « Reply #10 on: April 13, 2013, 02:29:22 PM »
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    I put women and guns in the same category as women and working:  perhaps necessary at times, but always inadvisable.  


    Why is it inadvisable for women to be without the modern means of self-defense?  

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    « Reply #11 on: April 13, 2013, 02:33:42 PM »
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  • The only reason to fear a woman with a gun is if she's the aggressor.

    imo, most women who are potential victims of crime are not going to be in a position to defend themselves with a gun or with anything else.

    Once a man has a woman's arms grabbed she's almost certainly helpless.  A man is far less likely to be able to be restrained that way.

    A dog and a male companion with a gun are far more valuable.

    I'm not sure it's a good idea to teach women to practice using lethal force.

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    « Reply #12 on: April 13, 2013, 02:41:09 PM »
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  • Of course, women are far more likely to get away with shooting someone in ambiguous circuмstances.  

    Consider the case of Trayvon Martin.  If Trayvon had bloodied a woman's nose and slammed her head against the pavement no one would even dream of charging her with second degree murder.

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    « Reply #13 on: April 13, 2013, 02:48:16 PM »
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    I put women and guns in the same category as women and working:  perhaps necessary at times, but always inadvisable.  


    Why is it inadvisable for women to be without the modern means of self-defense?  

    Marsha


    What does modern have to do with it?  I don't think they should be sword fighters either!  The male role is to protect, not the females.  Maybe it is a matter of degrees, rather than all or nothing, but still, it is the male role, not the female.  
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    « Reply #14 on: April 13, 2013, 02:53:09 PM »
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    I'm not sure it's a good idea to teach women to practice using lethal force.


    Of course it isn't.  They are too emotional.  Still, there is always some situation where a women should have a gun, but that isn't the point.  Our culture shouldn't be encouraging women to take on the role of protector;  it isn't just threatening to men, it's "de-femizing" to women!
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