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Offline Stephen Francis

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« on: November 20, 2013, 12:14:31 PM »
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  • I've come into an incredibly pressing need.

    I don't want to do this, but I will let my ENTIRE remaining collection go for one price
    if someone can sell/loan/donate these items to traditional chapels, churches, priests and/or laypeople.

    1906 Rituale Romanum. Good condition.

    Various standard and pocket-sized missals from the 40s, 50s and 60s. All in good condition. I will include a few small missals and devotional books that are in poorer condition.

    4-volume Butler's Lives of the Saints. Good condition.

    2 (TWO) Douay OT/Confraternity NT "family size" Bibles. Good to very good condition.

    Rosaries, medals, holy cards, pocket shrines, vintage scapulars, figurines, including a small Infant of Prague plastic figurine with a vintage, hand-sewn robe.

    Sacred Heart of Jesus 16" vintage statue. BEAUTIFUL, aged condition.

    Douay-Rheims Bibles and New Testaments.

    There's even more... Crucifixes (INCLUDING ONE GIVEN OUT BY THE HOLY GHOST FATHERS WHILE +LEFEBVRE WAS SUPERIOR!), pictures suitable for framing... SO much that I can't list it all.

    I DON'T want to list these things on my Etsy shop site. I don't want casual collectors or re-sellers getting these things. If I have to part with them, I want them all to go to faithful Catholics.

    There is probably three good-sized boxes' worth of all these items. Shipping will be through US Postal Service Flat Rate, so it won't cost me too much to send it all wherever it needs to go.

    My goal, after all is said and done, is $1500. That includes every outstanding bill my family currently has, repayment of several small loans from family, and funds for daily expenditures like gas and toll money as I continue to seek work.

    I will consider lower offers; I just can't list everything item by item; it would take a week or more.

    If several people wanted to get together and combine lower offers with the goal of having me send part or all of the lot to some particular church, priest, etc, simply PM me.

    I need to think creatively about how to raise the money I desperately need while keeping these precious items in praying, sacrificing Catholic hands.

    We will be losing our Internet soon, and my car payment is delinquent. These are just the first two things I can think of that are incredibly pressing right now.

    Thank you in advance for your consideration.

    I'd like to acknowledge the person or persons who down-thumbed some of my posts listing the items I was trying to sell. If you knew my physical problems, financial dangers and other weighty issues, or if you even knew me and my family at all, you'd NEVER be so negative. God forbid that I would do any of this for a "quick buck". I KNOW how distasteful the idea of selling these items is to some, and to me. These are, however, some of the only worthwhile material possessions I have to my name, excluding my car (which I don't own), my home (which I don't own) and the tools I need to teach music.

    Thanks be to God, Our Lady, the saints and all of you who have helped so generously.

    Matthew and Mater Dominici, may God bless you always for making this forum and these connections possible.

    Ave Maria,

    Stephen Francis
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    « Reply #1 on: November 20, 2013, 01:03:27 PM »
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  • Fellow traditional Catholics... time to rally for one of our own!
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    « Reply #2 on: November 20, 2013, 01:29:33 PM »
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  • Maybe you can tell us a few details of your circuмstances, I feel it might encourage people to purchase these items.

    PS: Have you tried the St Vincent De Paul society?

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    « Reply #3 on: November 20, 2013, 01:43:04 PM »
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  • Stephen Francis, I'm a long way away and unable to buy, but I will pray for you and your family.  May God bless and keep you.

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    « Reply #4 on: November 20, 2013, 08:45:07 PM »
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  • Dear friends in the Faith,

    Here is the shortest version I can manage of my current situation.

    At 39 years old, I have four abdominal hernias (the result of tearing in my abdomen after emergency appendix surgery 11 years ago). I also have a cataract in one eye and was born with a chronic cardiac arrhythmia (irregular heartbeat).

    The last few jobs I've gotten have been "sight unseen", that is, I was hired because an employer needed someone to work and didn't have time for a full or face-to-face interview. Thus, they never found out about my hernias, cataract or other physical issues. I also have a weight problem, which compounds the issue further, because fat discrimination is rampant in the capitalist working world.

    To make a very long recent story short, I was hired by a company in my field of expertise. Again, sight unseen, because the company needed to fill a position and had no time to screen for anything more than the basic qualifications (professional license, driver's, etc).

    When my work at one account ended, I was transferred to another account. This was a VERY lucrative contract position with an agency of the US government. My company's contract was then taken over by another company, and all of the employees were brought on with the new company, myself included. I worked part-time for about a year, and then transitioned to full-time status (which meant over 50 hours per week and LARGE paychecks).

    During my full-time employment, I was involved in an incident which took place between an employee of my client and a visitor to the client's building. I cannot legally reveal what my role was or what exactly happened. Suffice it to say that the visitor decided to react unreasonably and threatened a lawsuit against my company, my client and myself personally.

    In order to appease this visitor and avoid any legal issues, I was summarily dismissed not only from my post with that client, but from my employ with my company in toto.

    Friends, I went from $4200 monthly to $0 monthly in four hours. That's how long it took for the client to call my company's supervisors, get a temporary replacement sent to my facility, and relieve me of my duties.

    My extended family is paying the note on our home. If it were not for their willingness to do so, we would have lost our home years ago. They also pay the basic utilities, such as electric and gas and water, etc.

    We are responsible for:

    $600 monthly mortgage
    $260 monthly car payment
    $125 combined monthly cell service (right now, mine is off; my wife's is current for the time being.)

    and more, but those are the largest numbers I can think of right now.

    I am also in need of some equipment for my contract work as a musician and music teacher,
    but I'm not really sure how to navigate explaining that particular aspect of my life. As a Christian, I certainly do not condone the "nightclub" lifestyle, but I have worked on and off as a semi-professional musician for years, and I have the chance to do so again, for pay (not tremendous pay, but regular and decent pay all the same). I would be glad to explain more to anyone who wants to PM and ask.

    As it stands right now, I am ineligible for state disability payments because an agent of the disability board decided that I should just "go get" (his words) a job that will accommodate my physical disabilities. Yes, sure. I should "go get" a job that doesn't require me to:

    sit for too long
    stand for too long
    see out of both eyes
    climb any stairs
    or lift anything.

    I have a commercial driver's license that is useless to me, because if I were to go take a driving job, I would have to pass a Dept. of Transportation physical. Over five years ago, I barely passed the exam in one of the most lenient states in the US concerning such standards. I now live in one of the strictest states. My eyesight, hernias and arrhythmia will disqualify me in an instant.

    I have a now-expired professional license and nearly 15 years' experience in my field, but cannot get another job in that field because I was fired under the pretense of suspicion of criminal activity. In order for another employer to hire me, I would have to prove, legally and for the record, that I was not guilty of any wrongdoing. Since no charges were ever officially filed, I cannot demand that my accusers prove their charges, and since my state's employment law concerning my type of work is "at will", either the employer or the employee can terminate the working relationship instantly, at any time, for ANY reason or NO reason at all.

    I have contacted lawyers; they have shown me that I cannot sue for wrongful termination because I cannot prove prejudice. If I were to sue for defamation of character, if I could even begin to prove it, the process would take years and I might never see a dime of a settlement.

    I can't even go get a job pushing a mop because I physically can't do the work. I'm in constant pain and I struggle just to do the things I already must do, like walk more than a few dozen yards at a time or get up and down stairs.

    Yes, there are things I can do to have the hernias repaired (once I have lost considerable weight) and to have my cataract repaired, but I am receiving state-funded insurance, and there is a 6-month to one-year waiting period after a doctor's initial diagnosis to determine whether surgery is necessary. For anything. And that waiting period does NOT guarantee that the insurance will cover all or even part of the cost of the surgery. Something like a cataract could actually be considered ELECTIVE surgery!

    I've sold everything I own that is worth a dime. I had a $1200 guitar that I sold for a THIRD of its value. I've had other instruments that I have sold at great loss as well.

    We have no savings (it's all been spent since April when I lost my job). We have no ability to get a bank loan. We have no credit cards and never would.

    My family is doing everything they can and I can't ask them for a thing more even if I thought they would give anything else. They simply can't.

    The only things I have left to my name are a guitar that was a gift from a friend, the PC I'm on and a television that we use for watching videos. Everything else is either used appliances, the clothes on our backs, or junk that's not worth anything.

    My three daughters mean the world to me. I literally weep at times because I simply can't help them any more than I already struggle so hard to now. I try to stay positive, and they know my wife and I love them with all our hearts, but we're literally at the end of our rope.

    THAT is why I have to find someone to buy the items I've been listing. I quite literally have no other choice. If there's a thing in my home worth nickel number one on the resale market, it's going to put gas in my car, books in my (home-schooled) children's hands, and to put paid to my outstanding debts.

    I would promise the moon and the sun if I could get a loan; we just don't have anywhere else to turn to do that.

    We do receive food stamps, and we have no lack of food in the home, nor proper clothing for our children. We are just literally in over our heads in debt, and I am stuck between being unable to work and unable to prove somehow that I can't.

    We thank you for and earnestly desire your prayers and pray for you all with our whole hearts.

    In the Two Hearts,

    Stephen Franics

    P.S. I know this was rambling and probably a bit disjointed, so if I need to clarify anything, just ask. I am a chatterbox in real life, too.
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    « Reply #5 on: November 21, 2013, 07:25:13 AM »
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  • Quote from: Stephen Francis
    Dear friends in the Faith,

    Here is the shortest version I can manage of my current situation.

    At 39 years old, I have four abdominal hernias (the result of tearing in my abdomen after emergency appendix surgery 11 years ago). I also have a cataract in one eye and was born with a chronic cardiac arrhythmia (irregular heartbeat).

    The last few jobs I've gotten have been "sight unseen", that is, I was hired because an employer needed someone to work and didn't have time for a full or face-to-face interview. Thus, they never found out about my hernias, cataract or other physical issues. I also have a weight problem, which compounds the issue further, because fat discrimination is rampant in the capitalist working world.

    To make a very long recent story short, I was hired by a company in my field of expertise. Again, sight unseen, because the company needed to fill a position and had no time to screen for anything more than the basic qualifications (professional license, driver's, etc).

    When my work at one account ended, I was transferred to another account. This was a VERY lucrative contract position with an agency of the US government. My company's contract was then taken over by another company, and all of the employees were brought on with the new company, myself included. I worked part-time for about a year, and then transitioned to full-time status (which meant over 50 hours per week and LARGE paychecks).

    During my full-time employment, I was involved in an incident which took place between an employee of my client and a visitor to the client's building. I cannot legally reveal what my role was or what exactly happened. Suffice it to say that the visitor decided to react unreasonably and threatened a lawsuit against my company, my client and myself personally.

    In order to appease this visitor and avoid any legal issues, I was summarily dismissed not only from my post with that client, but from my employ with my company in toto.

    Friends, I went from $4200 monthly to $0 monthly in four hours. That's how long it took for the client to call my company's supervisors, get a temporary replacement sent to my facility, and relieve me of my duties.

    My extended family is paying the note on our home. If it were not for their willingness to do so, we would have lost our home years ago. They also pay the basic utilities, such as electric and gas and water, etc.

    We are responsible for:

    $600 monthly mortgage
    $260 monthly car payment
    $125 combined monthly cell service (right now, mine is off; my wife's is current for the time being.)

    and more, but those are the largest numbers I can think of right now.

    I am also in need of some equipment for my contract work as a musician and music teacher,
    but I'm not really sure how to navigate explaining that particular aspect of my life. As a Christian, I certainly do not condone the "nightclub" lifestyle, but I have worked on and off as a semi-professional musician for years, and I have the chance to do so again, for pay (not tremendous pay, but regular and decent pay all the same). I would be glad to explain more to anyone who wants to PM and ask.

    As it stands right now, I am ineligible for state disability payments because an agent of the disability board decided that I should just "go get" (his words) a job that will accommodate my physical disabilities. Yes, sure. I should "go get" a job that doesn't require me to:

    sit for too long
    stand for too long
    see out of both eyes
    climb any stairs
    or lift anything.

    I have a commercial driver's license that is useless to me, because if I were to go take a driving job, I would have to pass a Dept. of Transportation physical. Over five years ago, I barely passed the exam in one of the most lenient states in the US concerning such standards. I now live in one of the strictest states. My eyesight, hernias and arrhythmia will disqualify me in an instant.

    I have a now-expired professional license and nearly 15 years' experience in my field, but cannot get another job in that field because I was fired under the pretense of suspicion of criminal activity. In order for another employer to hire me, I would have to prove, legally and for the record, that I was not guilty of any wrongdoing. Since no charges were ever officially filed, I cannot demand that my accusers prove their charges, and since my state's employment law concerning my type of work is "at will", either the employer or the employee can terminate the working relationship instantly, at any time, for ANY reason or NO reason at all.

    I have contacted lawyers; they have shown me that I cannot sue for wrongful termination because I cannot prove prejudice. If I were to sue for defamation of character, if I could even begin to prove it, the process would take years and I might never see a dime of a settlement.

    I can't even go get a job pushing a mop because I physically can't do the work. I'm in constant pain and I struggle just to do the things I already must do, like walk more than a few dozen yards at a time or get up and down stairs.

    Yes, there are things I can do to have the hernias repaired (once I have lost considerable weight) and to have my cataract repaired, but I am receiving state-funded insurance, and there is a 6-month to one-year waiting period after a doctor's initial diagnosis to determine whether surgery is necessary. For anything. And that waiting period does NOT guarantee that the insurance will cover all or even part of the cost of the surgery. Something like a cataract could actually be considered ELECTIVE surgery!

    I've sold everything I own that is worth a dime. I had a $1200 guitar that I sold for a THIRD of its value. I've had other instruments that I have sold at great loss as well.

    We have no savings (it's all been spent since April when I lost my job). We have no ability to get a bank loan. We have no credit cards and never would.

    My family is doing everything they can and I can't ask them for a thing more even if I thought they would give anything else. They simply can't.

    The only things I have left to my name are a guitar that was a gift from a friend, the PC I'm on and a television that we use for watching videos. Everything else is either used appliances, the clothes on our backs, or junk that's not worth anything.

    My three daughters mean the world to me. I literally weep at times because I simply can't help them any more than I already struggle so hard to now. I try to stay positive, and they know my wife and I love them with all our hearts, but we're literally at the end of our rope.

    THAT is why I have to find someone to buy the items I've been listing. I quite literally have no other choice. If there's a thing in my home worth nickel number one on the resale market, it's going to put gas in my car, books in my (home-schooled) children's hands, and to put paid to my outstanding debts.

    I would promise the moon and the sun if I could get a loan; we just don't have anywhere else to turn to do that.

    We do receive food stamps, and we have no lack of food in the home, nor proper clothing for our children. We are just literally in over our heads in debt, and I am stuck between being unable to work and unable to prove somehow that I can't.

    We thank you for and earnestly desire your prayers and pray for you all with our whole hearts.

    In the Two Hearts,

    Stephen Franics

    P.S. I know this was rambling and probably a bit disjointed, so if I need to clarify anything, just ask. I am a chatterbox in real life, too.


    Seriously, why don't you link up with some agency that works with the poor so they can give you advice on how to manage this crisis. Also why not try St Vincent de Paul. Someone thumbed me down for that suggestion but if you don't try them there is something wrong with you, they hand out free money for people in desperate situations and you must use them, you have no choice. Time to swallow your pride and go to special groups for people in need.

    Also, someone told me that in America if you are in college then the banks don't require you to repay a loan, so long as you are in college. If it is true, then why not return to education? A music teacher job does not sound right. When someone says they are a musician I get the impression that it is a hobby elevated to the level of a job, but it is not an option long term.

    Also what about being a sacristan or something, they are paid and you don't need qualifications. Inquire at your local church, even try the novus ordo churches and hope to get in there. The local sacristan in a a novus ordo church where I am gets 40,000 Euro a year, and he does jack.

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    « Reply #6 on: November 21, 2013, 07:36:22 AM »
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  • Also what is your field of expertise?

    Surely someone on Cathinfo might know someone who could offer a job?
    You could cancel your mortgage, get the money back and move somewhere else in the US where the job is. Renting at first.

    People should ask at their local churches if there is help for this man and if there is any job he could do.

    Also I doubt whether you will consider this next suggestion but:
    Depending on your age and whether you are likely to work again or if you just want to live a quiet life.

    Cancel your mortgage and move to Ireland, we have a good welfare system and you qualify for disability easily. It is 188 Euro per week. You could rent a house in the country side and the state pays most of your rent. College is also free. If you have some expert field, maybe there would be a job here in time.

    Or if not, move to Canada or something, if you cant get disability in your own country. Why not appeal the decision? Get doctors letters to support your case. In my country, something as simple as arthritis is a disability.

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    « Reply #7 on: November 21, 2013, 08:44:51 AM »
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  • If you applied for disability, there are many lawyers out there that can appeal the decision and help you get the benefits, since it's not a case that SSI likes to fight. Plus, you really sound like you would be eligible based on what that disability board person told you.

    "As it stands right now, I am ineligible for state disability payments because an agent of the disability board decided that I should just "go get" (his words) a job that will accommodate my physical disabilities."

    Find a lawyer. Might take some time, but it might be worth pursuing.
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    « Reply #8 on: November 21, 2013, 10:59:06 AM »
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  • SF I posted this before, get a phone from safelink.com - 250 free min per month and additional minutes are $10 for 100 minutes if you buy online.  

    I know cell phone prices and $125/month is ridiculous for a talk/text cell phone plan. You can get pre-paid plan with unlimited talk for under $50. Your number may be portable. Get a free voicemail for job applications. If you are in a contract for a smartphone,  the worse that happens is you are charged an early termination fee.

    Is your wife able to work for four hours a day? 9 -1 or early morning hours like 5 -9? That would cover things like gas and insurance and misc expenses without her being gone all day. If your mortgage and electric and food is paid an extra 400 - 500  a month would really go far.

    What about giving the car back and get a beater under $1000. You would only need liability too so your insurance would go down.

    For homeschool books simply ask on  some of the used book groups or forums. They need a math books but there are tons of things to do that you don't need a set curriculum for.  Also write here and see if they can send you anything that you need:  http://www.thebooksamaritan.com/  Let your local homeschool group know that you need sutff, most homeschoolers protestant, NO, or no religion, are very generous with materials.