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Re: Why the Catholic God is Evil and Unjust. Why Hell is Evil.
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2019, 07:11:11 AM »
It is ironic how you call me "screwed up" because I advocate salvation for my brethren and sisters. What is screwed up with that? No, rather, what is screwed up is to defend an evil God who condemns his own children.
God is not evil, men are evil. Every man is born into this world bent on evil due to being born with original sin. This is elementary Catholic doctrine.

As Fr. Wathen puts it:

[You need to] look at things as they are and stop all this liberal star gazing and wishful thinking and return to hard reality. Last week in what we style a sermon you probably perceive that I was laboring and I felt ill at ease because I could not find the words to say what I had thinking for a number of weeks and have a little more success said in other places. The bishops are going to have to recognize that the fundamental premise and the farfetched hope and the basic inspiration of the second Vatican council were altogether false and insubstantial.

They are going to have to recognize that liberalism is intrinsically false and will not work, because beneath liberalism, the philosophical basis of liberalism, is what we call naturalism. Naturalism proclaims, among other heresies, that there is no such thing as original sin, that man is basically good, that he means well and if you let him grow up, he’ll grow up good, he’ll grow up moral, he’ll grow up to be a good fellow.

But Catholic doctrine says that man is not basically good, that he comes into the world bent on evil and if you leave him to himself, he’ll become a savage, he’ll become amoral. He’ll not only do most wicked things but he will try to justify them.

We have to recognize that this is the error of liberalism, that it wants to treat all men as if they really are not bad and that the only reason they are bad is that they are misguided, that they’re victims of circuмstances and of their environment.

That they are bad because their mother, or their father, or their parents mistreated them, or because they were deprived of something, or because they didn’t get a chance to go to school with white folk  and all that kind of thing. And we say that no, a man is bad because of original sin and he doesn’t mind being bad, he chooses to be bad. In other words, he cannot blame his wickedness on Adam only, because with every day that passes, he confirms the evil within himself.

At the second Vatican council they tried to say that "men are bad, that men are anti-Catholic because the Church has not treated men correctly, and if the Church approached them kindly, and with understanding and you might say with intelligence, modern public relations - they would have come into the Church instead of opposing it" and being against us in every way and distrusting it and even engaging in efforts to destroy it."

And the bishops are going to have to recognize that original sin is operative in every soul and it always will be, and that all men have to be disciplined, they have to acknowledge that by themselves they will do wicked things. And Almighty God in the Church established an authority over them and they may not like to be told what to do but they must be told what to do and they must be warned of the consequences of not doing it, and the consequences ultimately are hell fire...

Re: Why the Catholic God is Evil and Unjust. Why Hell is Evil.
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2019, 07:12:30 AM »
Sounds like pseudo Divine mercy of Vatican II.  Anything to maintain their mortal sins. 


Re: Why the Catholic God is Evil and Unjust. Why Hell is Evil.
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2019, 07:24:54 AM »
Barron promotes false teaching that “hell”. Is empty. Then promoted to bishop. 

Re: Why the Catholic God is Evil and Unjust. Why Hell is Evil.
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2019, 07:28:04 AM »
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Re: Why the Catholic God is Evil and Unjust. Why Hell is Evil.
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2019, 07:33:45 AM »
Interesting OP. I can relate. I find the eternity of Hell to be so frightening that I can understand how some might come to unbelief or to hatred of God because of this teaching (especially combined with a pessimistic view on the number of those who are saved). Forever and ever and ever. I do find it to be the most difficult teaching of all the teachings of the Church when I think about it.