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Traditional Catholic Faith => General Discussion => Topic started by: DumDiversas on July 12, 2019, 08:00:33 PM
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Not to brag but I'm a handsome guy, well over 6ft tall, intelligent, sense of humor, interesting personality, and devoted to the faith.
I don't understand why but Catholic ladies treat me like a ghost, that is to say, like I'm invisible.
I've tried both at church and Catholic dating sites, no luck.
I'm not even picky, as long as I find her moderately attractive and virtuous, that's good enough for me.
If a guy like me can't find a wife after several years of searching, I fear for the future of Catholicism.
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Look here stud, we men might tend to think in terms of attraction in terms of looks, but women don’t think that way.
Your problem could be threefold:
1. God doesn’t want you to marry (or marry these women). That’s great! Better to be married to the right women then to choose someone because they’re there and willing.
2. You could look like one of those guys from the cover of a magazine, and if you don’t have the right personality, it’s just over. She won’t care about your good looks.
3. Making marriage about attraction is a pitfall. Now, I’m not saying that we shouldn’t be attracted to our spouse, not as all, but look seems to come first here.
Pray diligently for a good wife that God will lead you to your spouse and that you will be a good and virtuous husband and father.
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Look here stud, we men might tend to think in terms of attraction in terms of looks, but women don’t think that way.
Your problem could be threefold:
1. God doesn’t want you to marry (or marry these women). That’s great! Better to be married to the right women then to choose someone because they’re there and willing.
2. You could look like one of those guys from the cover of a magazine, and if you don’t have the right personality, it’s just over. She won’t care about your good looks.
3. Making marriage about attraction is a pitfall. Now, I’m not saying that we shouldn’t be attracted to our spouse, not as all, but look seems to come first here.
Pray diligently for a good wife that God will lead you to your spouse and that you will be a good and virtuous husband and father.
Both my personality and looks are above average. Problem is women never find out about my personality because they act like I don't exist. The point is, it shouldn't be this hard to find a Catholic wife. There should be so many marriageable Catholic women that I'm tripping over them, but instead it's a barren wasteland. You can accuse me all day of not being good enough or not measuring up to their lofty expectations, but there should still be someone out there for everyone, and I can't find anyone.
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Oh dear. I think I have a good guess as to what might be your roadblock.
You stated that you are looking for a virtuous woman. The most attractive aspect of a man to a woman of virtue, and who actually takes the faith seriously, is that of humility. As this virtue is what nurtures all the other virtues that draw us closer to Our Lord.
She wants a man who will imitate Christ in her home and guide her through this tumultuous life with her soul on the path to Heaven. This imitation first requires a long practiced spirit of meekness and humility. She wants a true partner of whom she doesn’t have to maintain his fragile ego whether it be by walking on emotional egg shells or staying a perfect 8 dress size.
It’s slim pickings out in the dating world, no doubt. I don’t envy you the task of navigating it. But the best way to attract the woman you hope to marry is to ask Christ to form you into the man worthy of her.
A good devotion/ spiritual retreat book to start with is True Devotion to the Blessed Virgin by St. Louis De Montfort (my husband reading this book literally changed our marriage by surrendering it to Our Lady, praise God!). Like any good mother, Our Lady wants the best wives for her sons- so if you truly become Her son in the depth of your devotion and leave your marriage prospects to Her, you’ll be blessed abundantly with the wife God had made just for you to help make you a saint.
Hope this helps answer your question!
God bless!
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Both my personality and looks are above average. Problem is women never find out about my personality because they act like I don't exist. The point is, it shouldn't be this hard to find a Catholic wife. There should be so many marriageable Catholic women that I'm tripping over them, but instead it's a barren wasteland. You can accuse me all day of not being good enough or not measuring up to their lofty expectations, but there should still be someone out there for everyone, and I can't find anyone.
I never accused you. But saying your looks and personality are above average are just your opinions and sometimes (no accusation, I don’t know you from a hole in the ground) we can be prideful and boastful and women won’t like that. No accusation!
Maybe God doesn’t want you to be married. Maybe He wants you to wait for Mrs Perfect? Maybe He wants you to be a priest or a brother? I am not saying one way or the other. That’s why I pointed out some things that stood out and then suggested you pray for a good and holy spouse and to be a good and holy spouse if that is what God wants for you. Just because you’re a good looking guy doesn’t mean that other women are going to go for you.
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It could be marriage is not your vocation, which I’m sure is sad to think about when you obviously envision your life with a wife, and babies.
It also could just be that your personality, job, looks, hobbies, or devotion to faith don’t come across the way you think they do. I’m not saying you’re a dumb ugly guy, just that you come off a little full of yourself. But it’s the internet and I could just be misreading your description.
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Better to have a woman of virtue that is average in looks than a vain or prideful or spiritually apathetic woman who is like-a-model gorgeous. Sometimes, you have both, but looks should not be the sole factor.
This goes for men, too.
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Oh dear. I think I have a good guess as to what might be your roadblock.
You stated that you are looking for a virtuous woman. The most attractive aspect of a man to a woman of virtue, and who actually takes the faith seriously, is that of humility. As this virtue is what nurtures all the other virtues that draw us closer to Our Lord.
She wants a man who will imitate Christ in her home and guide her through this tumultuous life with her soul on the path to Heaven. This imitation first requires a long practiced spirit of meekness and humility. She wants a true partner of whom she doesn’t have to maintain his fragile ego whether it be by walking on emotional egg shells or staying a perfect 8 dress size.
It’s slim pickings out in the dating world, no doubt. I don’t envy you the task of navigating it. But the best way to attract the woman you hope to marry is to ask Christ to form you into the man worthy of her.
A good devotion/ spiritual retreat book to start with is True Devotion to the Blessed Virgin by St. Louis De Montfort (my husband reading this book literally changed our marriage by surrendering it to Our Lady, praise God!). Like any good mother, Our Lady wants the best wives for her sons- so if you truly become Her son in the depth of your devotion and leave your marriage prospects to Her, you’ll be blessed abundantly with the wife God had made just for you to help make you a saint.
Hope this helps answer your question!
God bless!
Why don't you tell me what your "good guess" is? Are you suggesting that I don't have humility or that I have a fragile ego? I merely mentioned my looks because you can't see me and in the modern world most women are very shallow. Why do you assume I am not "worthy" enough for a woman and that I need God to help me become more worthy? As if women are some prize on a pedestal only the most qualified men can hope to obtain. The ratio of men to women is 50/50, so there should be plenty to go around. Even if I were the most pious man on Earth, no women would know it because they don't give me the time of day. Also, regarding that quip about "size 8," women absolutely should stay thin, gluttony is a sin.
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When you say you're invisible to them, what do you mean exactly? Do they just straight up ignore you when you try to strike up a conversation, or they give uninterested and curt responses, or are they polite enough when you talk to them but you just feel you can't make any progress beyond that?
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It could be marriage is not your vocation, which I’m sure is sad to think about when you obviously envision your life with a wife, and babies.
It also could just be that your personality, job, looks, hobbies, or devotion to faith don’t come across the way you think they do. I’m not saying you’re a dumb ugly guy, just that you come off a little full of yourself. But it’s the internet and I could just be misreading your description.
If I didn't include that description, everyone would assume I'm some ugly short little goblin. I was merely trying to explain my situation with realism. I don't go around talking to women about how dashingly good-looking I think I am. I couldn't care less about how I look but modern women seem to be very picky in that regard.
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When you say you're invisible to them, what do you mean exactly? Do they just straight up ignore you when you try to strike up a conversation, or they give uninterested and curt responses, or are they polite enough when you talk to them but you just feel you can't make any progress beyond that?
Well they rarely stick around after mass to talk to, but when I have talked to them they give short responses and show no interest. On dating sites they usually don't message me back.
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Quid Judith, that you?
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Both my personality and looks are above average. Problem is women never find out about my personality because they act like I don't exist. The point is, it shouldn't be this hard to find a Catholic wife. There should be so many marriageable Catholic women that I'm tripping over them, but instead it's a barren wasteland. You can accuse me all day of not being good enough or not measuring up to their lofty expectations, but there should still be someone out there for everyone, and I can't find anyone.
Correct. It is a wasteland. Have you seen the state of affairs going on in the Church and world today? We are in a Great Apostasy. The very nature of this crisis means that it will be harder to find a spouse because so many people have left the Faith and your choices will be exponentially smaller.
Pray for God’s Will to be done above all things. And remember how infinitely lovable our Lord is.
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Both my personality and looks are above average. Problem is women never find out about my personality because they act like I don't exist. The point is, it shouldn't be this hard to find a Catholic wife. There should be so many marriageable Catholic women that I'm tripping over them, but instead it's a barren wasteland. You can accuse me all day of not being good enough or not measuring up to their lofty expectations, but there should still be someone out there for everyone, and I can't find anyone.
There a lot of ‘should’ statements here...
Christians have always had the struggle of finding a good spouse. Christians have always struggled period. It is far from a Catholic attitude to get our noses out of joint over what ‘should’ happen- the Catholic attitude is to be obedient and submissive to the Holy Will of God in all things.
Also “it shouldn’t be this hard to find a wife” is a bit concerning. Every woman wants to feel and know that she is the diamond you’ve been digging for, not just the one who finally started paying attention to you and you didn’t find her totally disagreeable to have around...
If any ol’ gal will do then why would she want your attention? Every girl has heard tales of being wooed by a great looking gentlemen only to marry him and find he only wanted a housewife to keep house and cook while being perpetually pregnant. The romance stopped, there was no partnership or depth to the relationship. I can assure you that if you give off any airs of entitlement to her time she’ll swiftly run the other way.
You posted a rather vulnerable question to strangers on the internet, I can understand your defensiveness. However, we are answering with our opinions and experience based off of your word choices.
If you’re not interested in our answers beyond “poor you, here is my sister’s phone number...” then we can’t help you much here. Or you’re a troll :-\
As to the gluttony thing- you do realize childbirth changes a woman’s physiology? Age? Medication side effects? Good grief, then there is the fact that our Good Lord made different body types in general... ???
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It could be marriage is not your vocation, which I’m sure is sad to think about when you obviously envision your life with a wife, and babies.
DumDiversas, if this is the case, it would be a tremendous grace from God that women “act like you don’t exist”.
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As to the gluttony thing- you do realize childbirth changes a woman’s physiology? Age? Medication side effects? Good grief, then there is the fact that our Good Lord made different body types in general... ???
Lol nice excuses. I've seen plenty of thin women with a brood of offspring.
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Lol nice excuses. I've seen plenty of thin women with a brood of offspring.
So then you’re troll. Good to know.
Even if you weren’t, by everything you’ve typed here and I knew you in real life I wouldn’t recommend you to any young woman I know. Even the ones I don’t like...
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Lol nice excuses. I've seen plenty of thin women with a brood of offspring.
There’s also the fact that we can’t marry you off and if you expect to come onto a forum about why you can’t get married, that’s you know, whining, and women don’t like whiners.
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DumDiversas, if this is the case, it would be a tremendous grace from God that women “act like you don’t exist”.
Let's just say I'm trying to follow St. Paul's advice in 1 Corinthians 7:9 "But if they do not contain themselves, let them marry. For it is better to marry than to be burnt."
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Lol nice excuses. I've seen plenty of thin women with a brood of offspring.
God grant you humility first and a wife second.
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So then you’re troll. Good to know.
Even if you weren’t, by everything you’ve typed here and I knew you in real life I wouldn’t recommend you to any young woman I know. Even the ones I don’t like...
Hey you like 'em plump, that's your preference, fine. My advice to you however is it seems like your wife wears the pants, forcing you to read books to "change your marriage." Maybe you should man up and be the king of your household and put your foot down once in awhile eh?
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As to the gluttony thing- you do realize childbirth changes a woman’s physiology? Age? Medication side effects? Good grief, then there is the fact that our Good Lord made different body types in general... ???
But that didn't stop our Grandmothers and Great-Grandmothers, who had more children, from staying fit. In fact the whole notion of having a large family presupposes that the wife stays fit. (Don't get me wrong the husband should as well, gluttony is a mortal sin.) Telling a naturally ordered man to be okay with extreme overweightness and obesity in a wife is akin telling him to be okay with sodomy; it ties back to disgust sensitivity. In fact, it's no surprise that fat acceptance and sodomy acceptance arise at the same time.
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Let's just say I'm trying to follow St. Paul's advice in 1 Corinthians 7:9 "But if they do not contain themselves, let them marry. For it is better to marry than to be burnt."
Chastity and purity should be practiced before and during marriage.
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Hey you like 'em plump, that's your preference, fine. My advice to you however is it seems like your wife wears the pants, forcing you to read books to "change your marriage." Maybe you should man up and be the king of your household and put your foot down once in awhile eh?
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I read that book on my own accord, thank you.
But really, you should just move on here.
Pray for humility.
I see why the women avoid you!
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God grant you humility first and a wife second.
Why do I need humility? Because I don't tolerate fat sows talking down to me?
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But that didn't stop our Grandmothers and Great-Grandmothers, who had more children, from staying fit. In fact the whole notion of having a large family presupposes that the wife stays fit. (Don't get me wrong the husband should as well, gluttony is a mortal sin.) Telling a naturally ordered man to be okay with extreme overweightness and obesity in a wife is akin telling him to be okay with sodomy; it ties back to disgust sensitivity. In fact, it's no surprise that fat acceptance and sodomy acceptance arise at the same time.
“Staying fit” and “being skinny” are two different things ...
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“Staying fit” and “being skinny” are two different things ...
You've bought in to the feminist propaganda it seems. No, you can't be both fit and a fatty, sorry bud.
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Hey you like 'em plump, that's your preference, fine. My advice to you however is it seems like your wife wears the pants, forcing you to read books to "change your marriage." Maybe you should man up and be the king of your household and put your foot down once in awhile eh?
Wow. Very distasteful.
What did you expect asking this question? Did you want us to puff you up and flatter you or give you honest answers?
It might be a good idea to reflect and see that the problem isn’t with the women you’re seeking.
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Wow. Very distasteful.
What did you expect asking this question? Did you want us to puff you up and flatter you or give you honest answers?
It might be a good idea to reflect and see that the problem isn’t with the women you’re seeking.
I haven't received honest answers, I've received passive aggressive insults. Of course I'm going to return the favor. This is the internet I don't go around talking to women like this lol
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Wow. Very distasteful.
What did you expect asking this question? Did you want us to puff you up and flatter you or give you honest answers?
It might be a good idea to reflect and see that the problem isn’t with the women you’re seeking.
This is more than likely terminal ballistics reappearing on his umpteenth account after being banned. You'll soon find out why this keeps happening.
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You've bought in to the feminist propaganda it seems. No, you can't be both fit and a fatty, sorry bud.
You didn’t read what I said. Many women are healthy and not the covergirl for Cosmo magazine.
You’re a right piece of work. You are your own reason why you’re single. And I have no pity for you.
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Why do I need humility? Because I don't tolerate fat sows talking down to me?
Uhhhhm because Our Lord commanded it...
“Learn of Me, for I am meek and humble of heart.”
Not to mention the plethora of scripture that mentions the hatred of God toward the proud and arrogant.
6 h (https://www.esv.org/Ps131.1%3BPr3.34%3BLk1.48%3BJm4.6%3BPs113.5-6)For though the LORD is high, he regardsthe lowly,
but the haughty he knows from afar.
34 Toward the c (https://www.esv.org/Ps1.1)scorners he d (https://www.esv.org/Jm4.6%3B1P5.5%3BPs138.6)is scornful,
e (https://www.esv.org/Jm4.6%3B1P5.5%3BPs138.6)but to the humble he gives favor.1 (https://www.esv.org/Ps138.6%3BPr3.34%3BPr29.23%3BMt23.12%3BLk1.52%3BJm4.6%3B1P5.5/#f1-)
23 e (https://www.esv.org/Pr17.19%3B2S22.28%3BMt23.12%3BJm4.6%3BPr11.2)One's pride will bring him low,
f (https://www.esv.org/Pr15.33%3BPr18.12)but he who is lowly in spirit willobtain honor.
12 m (https://www.esv.org/Lk14.11%3BLk18.14%3BMt18.4%3BPr29.23%3BEze21.26%3BJm4.6%3BJm4.10%3B1P5.5-6)Whoever exalts himself will behumbled, and whoever humbles himself willbe exalted.
52 j (https://www.esv.org/Lk1.51)he has brought down the mighty fromtheir thrones
l (https://www.esv.org/Jb5.11%3BPs75.7%3BPs107.40-41%3BPs113.7-8%3BPs147.6%3BEze21.26%3BJm4.10)and exalted those of humble estate;
6 But d (https://www.esv.org/Is54.7-8%3BMt13.12)he gives more grace. Therefore itsays, e (https://www.esv.org/1P5.5%3BPr3.34)“God opposes the proud but d (https://www.esv.org/Is54.7-8%3BMt13.12)givesgrace to the humble.”
5 Likewise, you who are younger, besubject to the elders. w (https://www.esv.org/Mt20.26-27%3BJn13.4-5%3BJn13.14)Clothe yourselves, allof you, with humility toward one another, forx (https://www.esv.org/Jm4.6%3BJm4.10)“God opposes the proud but gives grace tothe humble.”
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I haven't received honest answers, I've received passive aggressive insults. Of course I'm going to return the favor. This is the internet I don't go around talking to women like this lol
Ok. Good luck, bud.
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You didn’t read what I said. Many women are healthy and not the covergirl for Cosmo magazine.
You’re a right piece of work. You are your own reason why you’re single. And I have no pity for you.
You get in one little disagreement with someone and write them off forever. That's not very saintlike of you. You should show more patience and charity rather than immediately coming at me with insults like you did in your original post.
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This is more than likely terminal ballistics reappearing on his umpteenth account after being banned. You'll soon find out why this keeps happening.
Why does this keep happening?
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Uhhhhm because Our Lord commanded it...
“Learn of Me, for I am meek and humble of heart.”
No I was accused of not having enough humility and I asked why specifically, learn to read.
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Why do I need humility?
No, this is what you said.
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No I was accused of not having enough humility and I asked why specifically, learn to read.
Because you are stupidly, insufferingly prideful. We are all fallen creatures and fall short daily — there were only two people that couldn't ever sin, and Mr. DumDiversas is not one of them.
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Because you are stupidly, insufferingly prideful.
Wrong but thanks for the calumnious accusation.
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Wrong but thanks for the calumnious accusation.
It's not calumnious when it's true. A Catholic woman and someone who valued their Faith seriously would not take a husband who bathes in pride instead of blessing himself with holy water.
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Quid Judith, that you?
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Why don't you have a T-shirt printed with "Luv me I'm handsome, humble and Dum" written on it. That will get the girls attention.
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Why don't you have a T-shirt printed with "Luv me I'm handsome, humble and Dum" written on it. That will get the girls attention.
However, it will be the wrong kind of attention.
If you wish to find a good Catholic wife, volunteer to help out at the Church.
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Haha, this thread is hilarious.
Here's how you get a woman:
1. Stop whining about not finding any women.
2. Ask one out.
3. Be a man and put away the things of a child.
4. Ask one out.
5. Did I forget to say ask one out?
Not really sure what you're waiting for since you're apparently holy, tall and handsome (at least that's what you say).
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Not to brag but I'm a handsome guy, well over 6ft tall, intelligent, sense of humor, interesting personality, and devoted to the faith.
I don't understand why but Catholic ladies treat me like a ghost, that is to say, like I'm invisible.
I've tried both at church and Catholic dating sites, no luck.
I'm not even picky, as long as I find her moderately attractive and virtuous, that's good enough for me.
If a guy like me can't find a wife after several years of searching, I fear for the future of Catholicism.
Hard to tell without knowing you. Do you socialize wirh old ladies from your parish? They can have a better answer to your questions. No ofense but the way you describe yourself sounds frivolous. A woman can have many friends with those characteristics that do not necesarily describe a good potential husband.
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DD,
Trust me, you shouldn't get married at this time. It's very risky in the current anti-Catholic, anti-male environment.
Besides, the market for virtuous and attractive trad-babes is extremely tight.
Store provisions, sacramentals and hunker down to wait until after WWIII and the Three Days of Darkness.
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When you come out of your bunker, you'll be a humble, God fearing man...
and almost every single lady you meet will be a God fearing, virtuous woman.
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Haha, this thread is hilarious.
Here's how you get a woman:
1. Stop whining about not finding any women.
2. Ask one out.
3. Be a man and put away the things of a child.
4. Ask one out.
5. Did I forget to say ask one out?
Not really sure what you're waiting for since you're apparently holy, tall and handsome (at least that's what you say).
You do make it sound quite simple. : )
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My questions:
How old is the OP? How old are the ladies he claims pay him no attention? How stable is OP's life? (job? school? house? live alone? with parents? etc)
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Why don't you have a T-shirt printed with "Luv me I'm handsome, humble and Dum" written on it. That will get the girls attention.
Oh, I love this!!!!! :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
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Your problem is that you don't have a cute dog.
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Women like the following:
1. Babies,
2. Dogs and cats,
3. Guys on stage with guitars,
4. Money.
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I don't tolerate fat sows talking down to me...
Sorry, but if I were a young woman, I wouldn't want to speak with you now that I know the thoughts of your heart and your general attitude.
Some Suggestions: Get someone to video you after Mass as you socialize and talk with others. Be willing to have others make an honest assessment.
Is there a possibility you are on the autistic spectrum, ie. Aspergers, or social anxiety?
Even if your lack of humility is the main problem, there are classes in social skills and basic etiquette that can help as you work on the spiritual aspect.
Speak to your priest. Or to any happily married couple you'd consider to have the kind of relationship you want.
Make a list of ten traits you want in a wife. Order them from most important to least important. Then ask out women who meet the top three. See what happens.
Pray, pray, and pray some more.
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It could be that maybe these young girls are waiting for you to approach their fathers. Sometimes Catholic house holds have a rule like that... so the father can protect his daughter. The girls are not your property yet, and you don’t have a right to conversation with them. They belong under their fathers care.
Again, I by anything it’s a job thing, or you are to aggressive when you approach. Men NEED stable careers for women to see them as an option. If a wife is going to stay home, and have lot of lovely babies with a man she wants assurance he can provide and live able income. He doesn’t need to be a rich man, but stable with steady pay.
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Lol nice excuses. I've seen plenty of thin women with a brood of offspring.
There are many factors other than gluttony that might lead to people being overweight. Basic (government supported) information about nutrition has been incorrect for decades. Processed food is deliberately designed to be addictive. Various health conditions, deficiencies, and food sensitivities affect people's metabolisms. Stress, lack of sleep, and artificial light also play a role in weight.
There are complex interactions between all these factors and more. Just because some people (a minority) manage to remain thin does not invalidate the factors.
To judge people of being guilty of a sin with insufficient reason is itself the sin of rash judgment.
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Again, I by anything it’s a job thing, or you are to aggressive when you approach. Men NEED stable careers for women to see them as an option. If a wife is going to stay home, and have lot of lovely babies with a man she wants assurance he can provide and live able income. He doesn’t need to be a rich man, but stable with steady pay.
Indeed, he didn't mention a good job in the OP. A man listing his qualifications as a good catch would likely have mentioned that: "Good provider"
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Your problem is that you don't have a cute dog.
Or an alligator...
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/37/59/c0/3759c07b3348ffd0f1e66b0e71a9e9f9.jpg)
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Your problem is that you don't have a cute dog.
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Women like the following:
1. Babies,
2. Dogs and cats,
3. Guys on stage with guitars,
4. Money.
Wrong!
1. Money
2. Lap dogs & cats
3. Sissy long haired guys with guitars.
4. Babies (that don't make them fat).
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Quid Judith, that you?
Is there any doubt? :laugh1:
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This is more than likely terminal ballistics reappearing on his umpteenth account after being banned. You'll soon find out why this keeps happening.
Nope. Not from me.
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B from A says:
Indeed, he didn't mention a good job in the OP. A man listing his qualifications as a good catch would likely have mentioned that: "Good provider"
Nice to see you inadvertently reveal your ( and, generally, women's) hypergamous nature.
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B from A says:
Nice to see you inadvertently reveal your ( and, generally, women's) hypergamous nature.
I see that you're back Quid/Judith. You've opened a couple more accounts recently.
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You've opened a couple more accounts recently.
OP isn't me.
I have noticed that these two guys named Ladislaus and JezusDeKoning usually get emotionally triggered by new members who speak about racial or sex (gender) issues, thus, suspecting those new members to be the same guy with multiple accounts. I guess if you cast enough suspicions & accusations, perpetually, every once in a while you'll hit the target. Sorta like a broken clock is right twice a day.
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You do make it sound quite simple. : )
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My questions:
How old is the OP? How old are the ladies he claims pay him no attention? How stable is OP's life? (job? school? house? live alone? with parents? etc)
Really good questions above. Probably the most rational post on the thread so far. I hope that the forum member who wrote the OP considers the questions.
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Try spending a bit of time with some of the older ladies... they have grand-daughters, nieces, etc... if you make a good impression it may open a few doors. Believe me, word of an eligible young man of good reputation spreads like wildfire. Good luck.
ps- helping out in the kitchen or cleanup after Mass is one way to do this
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B from A says:
Nice to see you inadvertently reveal your ( and, generally, women's) hypergamous nature.
Nothing wrong with hypergamy per say. Men and women both practice it, maybe women more so than men. I’d say the only time it becomes wrong, or sinful is when the woman is married, and she uses it as an excuse.
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Nice to see you inadvertently reveal your ( and, generally, women's) hypergamous nature.
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Somehow this got accidentally attributed to me. It was terminal ballistics who said it.
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But it reminds me of another cartoon/meme:
(https://pics.me.me/Facebook-c34c00.png)
:laugh1:
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A young, pretty lady posted this on a popular forum:
Title: What Should I Do To Marry A Rich Guy?
"I'm going to be honest of what I'm going to say here. I'm 25 this year. I'm very pretty, have style and good taste. I wish to marry a guy with $500k annual salary or above. You might say that I'm greedy, but an annual salary of $1M is considered only as middle class in New York. My requirement is not high. Is there anyone in this forum who has an income of $500k annual salary? Are you all married? I wanted to ask: What should I do to marry rich persons like you? Among those I've dated, the richest is $250k annual income, and it seems that this is my upper limit. If someone is going to move into high cost residential area on the west of New York City Garden(?), $250k annual income is not enough. I'm here humbly to ask a few questions:
"1) Where do most rich bachelors hang out? (Please list down the names and addresses of bars, restaurant, gym).
"2) Which age group should I target?
"3) Why most wives of the riches are only average-looking? I've met a few girls who don't have looks and are not interesting, but they are able to marry rich guys.
"4) How do you decide who can be your wife, and who can only be your girlfriend? (my target now is to get married).
"Ms. Pretty."
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The reply:
"Dear Ms. Pretty,
"I have read your post with great interest. Guess there are lots of girls out there who have similar questions like yours. Please allow me to analyse your situation as a professional investor. My annual income is more than $500k, which meets your requirement, so I hope everyone believes that I'm not wasting time here. From the standpoint of a business person, it is a bad decision to marry you. The answer is very simple, so let me explain. Put the details aside, what you're trying to do is an exchange of 'beauty' and 'money': Person A provides beauty, and Person B pays for it, fair and square. However, there's a deadly problem here, your beauty will fade, but my money will not be gone without any good reason. The fact is, my income might increase from year to year, but you can't be prettier year after year. Hence from the viewpoint of economics, I am an appreciation asset, and you are a depreciation asset. It's not just normal depreciation, but exponential depreciation. If that is your only asset, your value will be much worse 10 years later. By the terms we use in Wall Street, every trading has a position, dating with you is also a 'trading position'. If the trade value dropped we will sell it and it is not a good idea to keep it for long term - same goes with the marriage that you wanted. It might be cruel to say this, but in order to make a wiser decision any assets with great depreciation value will be sold or 'leased'. Anyone with over $500k annual income is not a fool; we would only date you, but will not marry you. I would advice that you forget looking for any clues to marry a rich guy. And by the way, you could make yourself a rich person with $500k annual income by leasing yourself. This has better chance than finding a rich fool.
"Hope this reply helps.
"Signed, J.P. Morgan, CEO"
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Try spending a bit of time with some of the older ladies... they have grand-daughters, nieces, etc... if you make a good impression it may open a few doors. Believe me, word of an eligible young man of good reputation spreads like wildfire. Good luck.
ps- helping out in the kitchen or cleanup after Mass is one way to do this
Excellent ideas above. Young women at trad chapels tend to be reticent until they know someone. They often don't want to be forward. Taking time to volunteer, as is mentioned above, may help. It's possible that the fellow who wrote the OP hasn't been attending his chapel for very long. I hope that the OP is interested in attending things such as First Fridays and Saturdays. That means that he's serious about his spiritual life.
Also, it's possible that some young women are not comfortable around someone who is good-looking. I'm not suggesting that the OP wear a sackcloth to Mass, but maybe trying to tone down the good-looking aspect might help.
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In this thread I have seen a lot demands being placed on the man,
who asked the question.
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Demands can also be placed on a woman who is looking for a husband.
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Our modern age has ruined women, even Catholic women. Here is a
true story which modern women will not like.
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Paul, the hermit, wanted to be the holiest person on Earth and asked
God how he was doing. God said, "These is one who is holier."
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Paul said, "Please let me meet this person so I can learn." An angel
escorted Paul to a house in the village.
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Paul knocked on the door and a woman opened the door. Paul said,
"Can I talk to you and find out why you are so holy?"
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The woman said, "Who me, I don't know what you are talking about."
Paul said, "what is your daily routine? What do you do?"
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The woman said, "I just do my chores and whatever my husband
tells me to do."
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Paul said, "Thank you" and left.
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Here is another story (fiction) which is relevant to this discussion.
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There are two lines in heaven for husbands. One is labeled
"Hen pecked husbands" and the other, "Not hen-pecked".
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One has a line about 10 miles long (you can guess which one),
and the other has only one man in it.
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Two guys are talking at the front of the line and noticed the
guy in the other line (the Not Hen Pecked line). Joe says to
Mike, "I wonder how that guy did it". Mike says, "Go ask him".
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Joe walked up to the guy and asked, "How did you do it?".
The guy says, "Do what?"
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Joe said, "How did you prevent your wife from hen-pecking
you?"
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The guy said, "Oh, she hen-pecked me a lot." Joe said,
"Then why are you standing in this line?"
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The guy said, "What line? My wife told me to go stand in
this line."
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We are in a Great Apostasy.
Luke 23:29 (http://drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drl&bk=49&ch=23&l=29-#x):For behold, the days shall come, wherein they will say: Blessed are the barren and the wombs that have not borne and the paps that have not given suck.
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It sounds like you're coming on too grim and scaring the girls off.
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Honestly, it's not some big scientific thing in my opinion. It basically just boils down to money.
Anyways, I say you should try impressing women with your extensive knowledge of the Jєωιѕн-Masonic conspiracy.... my advice is almost certain to get you absolutely nowhere but I still think it's fun. Talk to her about how Jews control the media and of the necessity of "naming the Jew". It doesn't tend to attract women but I think it's a lot of fun.
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Conversely, if you ever want to immediately weed out a woman from your life, then mention Jesus Christ.
The Holy Name of Jesus Christ is a Litmus Test to the worldly harlots & heifers. Once you mention the Lord, they will immediately distance themselves from you. This way you will know they were no good in the first place. You spared yourself a lot of trouble and wasting time.
If they remain interested in you, then that could be a sign that they're worth pursuing, but it's still no guarantee. They could be more disciplined in their conniving.
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How do you get along with the men in the parish? There was once a kid at my church who was so tense and aggressive that my husband joked that he'd probably produce a diamond if he ever ate coal. If this boy had spoken to our nieces my husband would have steered them away from him. It could be that the dads, grandpas and uncles in your parish are not on your side.
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Why would any man today in his right mind want to get married? Marriage has absolutely no benefit what so ever to men. Men, just put the Most High Jesus Christ first in your life. Secondarily, make as much money as you can and enjoy your life to the best of your ability. As men, our value appreciates as we get older, wiser and make more money. The value of most women depreciate as they get older and start to lose their looks. Men age like fine wine. Women age like sour milk. Unfortunately, a lot of men and women don't realize this until it's too late. Don't sell yourself short, guys. Put the Most High first, eat right, exercise, make as much money as you can, keep your circle small, invest wisely, and retire early. Have a zero tolerance policy for predatory & crazy females.
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Why would any man today in his right mind want to get married? Marriage has absolutely no benefit what so ever to men. Men, just put the Most High Jesus Christ first in your life. Secondarily, make as much money as you can and enjoy your life to the best of your ability. As men, our value appreciates as we get older, wiser and make more money. The value of most women depreciate as they get older and start to lose their looks. Men age like fine wine. Women age like sour milk. Unfortunately, a lot of men and women don't realize this until it's too late. Don't sell yourself short, guys. Put the Most High first, eat right, exercise, make as much money as you can, keep your circle small, invest wisely, and retire early. Have a zero tolerance policy for predatory & crazy females.
I hope you are not serious about this. If you put the Most High first and not getting married, one typically has to actively work for his kingship, either in monastic life, missions, spreding His word, charities, etc., in other words, His servant. All other things in your list are self centered.
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Men age like fine wine...? Umm no. There are definitely good looking elderly men, and women out there. But they hit the genetic jackpot!
Also, the way you age depends on genetics, and health. So, drop the unhealthy food, limit alcohol (or completely give it up), and hit the gym. Ladies should definitely check out the weight sections more too, not just cardio.
We should give Catholic advice not incel, or Mgtow advice.
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Vintagewife3, you really are a dishonest tramp, aren't ya?
Since you're clearly a browser of red-pill/MGTOW websites, you probably have a very different definition of hypergamy than hers. The standard one if you google it, is just "marrying above one's class or caste". There's nothing wrong with that, historically and still today in many places that's been the only way to move up the social ladder. Why shouldn't a women choose the best provider she can get?
I suspect you define hypergamy more along the lines of "2/10 women chasing after male models and ignoring men anywhere near their actual league". That is vain, shallow and delusional, I agree, but I don't think that's what she meant by it.
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Since you're clearly a browser of red-pill/MGTOW websites, you probably have a very different definition of hypergamy than hers. The standard one if you google it, is just "marrying above one's class or caste". There's nothing wrong with that, historically and still today in many places that's been the only way to move up the social ladder. Why shouldn't a women choose the best provider she can get?
I suspect you define hypergamy more along the lines of "2/10 women chasing after male models and ignoring men anywhere near their actual league". That is vain, shallow and delusional, I agree, but I don't think that's what she meant by it.
Thank you, Forlorn, I had no idea about the 2/10 until until I just looked it up now (after you mentioned it). I was speaking more in terms being choosy in the right way, not by going around with as many men as she can get.
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Why would any man today in his right mind want to get married? Marriage has absolutely no benefit what so ever to men. Men, just put the Most High Jesus Christ first in your life. Secondarily, make as much money as you can and enjoy your life to the best of your ability. As men, our value appreciates as we get older, wiser and make more money. The value of most women depreciate as they get older and start to lose their looks. Men age like fine wine. Women age like sour milk. Unfortunately, a lot of men and women don't realize this until it's too late. Don't sell yourself short, guys. Put the Most High first, eat right, exercise, make as much money as you can, keep your circle small, invest wisely, and retire early. Have a zero tolerance policy for predatory & crazy females.
And you should add : " And men, since it's a losing proposition to marry, best forget about ever having sex unless you want to be in mortal sin and go to Hell." Just sayin'
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Bas Congo is quite obviously the disaffected Croix/Quid/Judith. Let's all say a Hail Mary for his serenity and then just sit tight because the banhammer is magnetic to him.
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Bas Congo is quite obviously the disaffected Croix/Quid/Judith. Let's all say a Hail Mary for his serenity and then just sit tight because the banhammer is magnetic to him.
Unless he has access to numerous computers, I'm not sure why an IP ban doesn't fix this.
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Ho hum. I see this thread has degenerated into name calling and general nastiness. Bye.
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Marriage has absolutely no benefit what so ever to men.
Marriage is the bedrock of civilization.
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It's a bad day when people start talking about being red-pilled or preaching about hypergamy and MGTOW.
Honestly OP if I were in your shoes I'd go to a Catholic college that is actually Catholic. TAC comes to mind. You'll get a decent education (from what I've heard) and there are many young women who are interested in the truth. Otherwise don't feel sorry for yourself and relax for a minute. Else you'll turn into an incel and a true hater of women. Don't despair and get out of the siege mentality.