Today on the "Pro-Life" Holy Day.  Oh, where do I begin?

1) constant emphasis is on the human being's "Right to Life".  But there IS NO INDEPENDENT RIGHT TO LIFE apart from God.  What's at issue is not OUR right to life, but GOD'S RIGHTS OVER LIFE, which He can give and take away as He pleases.  Where was Isaac's "Right to Life" when God asked Abraham to sacrifice him?  In arguing this way, the Pro-Life morons undercut any opposition they could ever have to assisted ѕυιcιdє.

2) constant parading of women who committed the sin of abortion, portraying them as "victims", eliciting sympathy for them, etc.  EVERY WOMAN whom they parade out there was "FORCED" to do it by a boyfriend or family members.  Women who do this commit a crime and should receive significant jail time for it.  Abortion doctors should get the death penalty.  Instead these "victims" are paraded out as if they were "heroes" of some sort.  Not only does this have the effect of condoning the crime and softening the reality of how heinous it is, but it does not help the women.  Only when they admit the gravity of their crime and their responsibility for the sin can they have true contrition; so long as they are constantly in "making excuses" mode, there can be no forgiveness for them.  And in putting the emphasis on emotional victimhood, the moronic Pro-Lifers again undercut their position since they're waging battle on the enemy's turf ... emotional utilitarianism.  As soon as the Abortionists come up with a completely painless method of abortion, the trauma to the mother in being forced to have an unplanned pregnancy trumps the pain inflicted upon the unborn child.  They also lose decidedly on the contraception front.

3) Pro-Lifism becoming the "Super Dogma" among neo-con Catholics.  How good a Catholic you are now becomes defined as how Pro-Life you are, i.e., whether or not you walk around carrying posters at "rallies".  Being Catholic is not about orthodoxy of belief and virtue but about Pro-Life zealotry.  By their definition, many Protestants are more Catholic than Catholics.  You could deny 95% of all Catholic dogma, fornicate every day of the week, etc., but if you carry a Pro-Life poster at a rally, then you're a good and devout Catholic.  That leads to this stomach-turning Ecuмenical joint-venture with Prots on this issue.  But Prots are part of the problem and can never be part of the solution.  Their Prot erosion of the rights and prerogatives of the Catholic Church in society, their Prot emphasis on conscience and subjectivism which eventually infected the Catholic Church and led to Vatican II are what CAUSED the problem.  Were it not for the rise of Protestantism, there WOULD BE NO LEGAL ABORTION.  Prots are overwhelmingly pro-contraception also.

4) Neo-Con Catholics who are zealous supporters of Vatican II and Religious Liberty refusing to admit that Vatican II is a root cause of the problem, with its emphasis on Religious Liberty.  They hypocritically go around denouncing Satanic rites being done in public, but according to the principles of Religious Liberty, they have no standing to oppose these things.  They refuse to call out the criminally-delinquent V2 Popes for doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO STOP ABORTION.  If I were Pope, I would command ALL CATHOLICS to STOP PAYING TAXES UNTIL THEIR GOVERNMENT OUTLAWS ABORTION.  What's the US going to do, put 100,000,000 Catholics in jail?  V2 Popes refuse to command the bishops to refuse Communion to the Pro-Abort politicians.  V2 Popes refuse to excommunicate Pro-Abortion politicians and to depose bishop who refuse to mount a serious resistance to abortion.

5) Promoting "peaceful resistance" and carrying posters around.  If we had true Catholic leaders, we would mount an armed ιnѕυrrєcтισn to overturn this grossly-immoral law.  But people don't really believe that abortion is murder.  Not really.  What's the difference if some tyrant was running around and slaughtering toddlers in preschools?  Would that justify an armed ιnѕυrrєcтισn against the tyrant?  Then why doesn't abortion?  All the Pro-Abortion politicians and judges and Supreme Court justices should be tried and then publicly executed for mass murder like the nαzιs were at Nuremberg.  All the others should be jailed for doing nothing to stop abortion.

So you can see why every time I see the Pro-Lifers out there on EWTN, far from being edified, my stomach turns.

Thurifer and Ladislaus are going to sniff glue together???

Guys, drink beer instead.

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The pro-life movement in the U.S. has been a big scam for decades now.  We all intuitively know this.  The Republicans use the issue of abortion to rally the base during election time only and the Democrats who truly do love abortion and truly do live up to their promises on the furtherance of abortion so if you like abortion than the Democratics can be congratulated for standing up for what they believe in.  Those who are on the Republican bandwagon are in for the same bumpy ride that they always get so, well, smell the hay and pretend to have a good time.

There are hundreds of hobbies out there to take up instead of wasting a lot of time and money and effort on the staged pro-life events.  

If someone wanted to really be effective against abortion, make it an intention of your daily Rosary and mention the young women in danger of taking this path.  Mention the young women by name - these women are known to you.  Pray for them daily.  Pray also for the young men that they do not encourage abortion.  

It just occurred to me, and it validates my suspicions about the Republicans and they're pretend pro-life stance.  In all these years, why have they never introduced a bill banning abortion.  Just flat out banning the procedure.  If they lose the vote, so what?  At least they proved that they are serious about the issue.  Instead, they choose symbolic acts that really do nothing and then they don't have the guts to go through with them.  

I do not like it when Catholics say you're not really pro-life because you support the death penalty.  

It's maddening, because never in the Church's history has it ever claimed that executions are inherently evil.  You can thank Saint John Paul II for that nice sentiment.

3) Pro-Lifism becoming the "Super Dogma" among neo-con Catholics.  How good a Catholic you are now becomes defined as how Pro-Life you are, i.e., whether or not you walk around carrying posters at "rallies".  Being Catholic is not about orthodoxy of belief and virtue but about Pro-Life zealotry.  By their definition, many Protestants are more Catholic than Catholics.  You could deny 95% of all Catholic dogma, fornicate every day of the week, etc., but if you carry a Pro-Life poster at a rally, then you're a good and devout Catholic.

Tell me about it. I get sick seeing how one of my novus ordo birth-controller-with-only-3-kids female cousin puts pro-life things all the time on facebook.

Quote from: Cera

You watch EWTN?
I have been working to save babies from abortion for 42 years. I have donated my time, up to 20 hours a week: speaking, writing, counseling, stuffing envelopes, baking, folding baby clothes, fund raising, praying in front of a PP, participating in a priest's exorcism which closed the PP for a couple of months.

Like you, I have not agreed with all others on all issues. btw, what have you done to help save babies?

Obviously I'm not denouncing the individual efforts to save specific babies.  I'm not even against protesting at abortion mills because sometimes that will change a woman's mind.  Please read what I wrote.

What I'm talking about is the Pro-Life movement, Pro-Life rhetoric, Pro-Life politics, and the Ecuмenical Novus Ordo Pro-Life theology, all of which are fraudulent.  Walking around DC and carrying sings is absolutely, utterly useless and serves no other purpose than to make people feel like they're doing something.

PS -- I've spent lots of time at abortion mills.

One thing about M4L is it gives at least those participating (mostly high school and college students with M4L ) awareness of the issue of surgical abortion.

I am sick of Pro-Llife organizations who talk up Bishops of the New Order, saying> "Oh, they are so pro-life!"  Any New Order Bishop is NOT pro-life at all!  They ALL give$$$ to the so-called Catholic Charities that pay for abortion, Advertise for Abortion and etc.  The Bishops that cry, that their Catholic hospitals are not catholic anymore, when they have not been catholic for decades, and decades.   I am sick of all the Dog and pony shows and speaking from the pulpits, that they are pro-life and the New Order who back up those liars!

I do not like it when Catholics say you're not really pro-life because you support the death penalty.  

It's maddening, because never in the Church's history has it ever claimed that executions are inherently evil.  You can thank Saint John Paul II for that nice sentiment.

I would support the death penalty if it applied to women who have abortions. It is crazy that conservative christians want to comfort and help women who have killed there own babies but advocate the death penalty for people who commit what they would consider murder.
If a woman knew she'd be facing the death penalty for murdering her baby maybe she'd be less likely to consider abortion her only option.

Yes, ecuмenicism has helped poisoned it with these concerts.

My first Catholic procession was novous ordo in a rural Italian area for St Alfio.
Then there are  Rosary processions on Feast of Assumption in another rural Italian /Irish novous ordo. Not many processions but few no parishes have procession.  
"Prolife", euthanasia and immigration....  And yet zero sermons or signs  about defending married life considering today the Supreme Court makes decision about same sex marriage. That's another reason to get sick over pro life movement.