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Offline EcceAgnusDei

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Why do men freak out...
« on: November 15, 2010, 01:07:53 AM »
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  • when you say you want to be a housewife/SAHM? Are women supposed to wait to disclose that and pretend they want to have a career? It seems like as soon as you say you want to stay home they run in the other direction.   :scratchchin:


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    « Reply #1 on: November 15, 2010, 01:21:32 AM »
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  • Those men are wordlings that have been programmed.

    You need to find a right-thinking traditional Catholic man.


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    « Reply #2 on: November 16, 2010, 08:24:33 AM »
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  • Traditional, conservative men will not "freak out" by your wanting to be a wife and mother.  You have to find a way to meet right-minded men and put yourself in that environment exclusively.  If you only surround yourself with people from your school or workplace, then that's all you're going to meet are men who've been raised with all the anti-marriage, anti-family propaganda.  Think of them as having been programmed, brain washed into believing certain things.  It's not your job to try to deprogram the robots.  It's your job to find those who haven't "drunk (?) the Kool-Aid" (sorry, that phrase is already on it's deathbed...but it makes the point)

    I know it's not easy to meet like-minded people.  I often worry about the future for my children, because we are the only traditional Catholics in our "world" ... However, we know that where there's a will there's a way ... and with prayer and discernment, God will lead you to your true vocation and make it happen, even if it seems to require a miracle.  

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    « Reply #3 on: November 16, 2010, 08:34:26 AM »
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  • A man who "freaks out" at the prospect of a woman staying home and watching the children could ONLY have ONE possible problem with it --

    She isn't going to be earning any money -- so comforts, luxuries, etc. would have to be curtailed. The man is immature, and would prefer that HE stay home, if anything. Maybe he's looking for someone to be the primary breadwinner. It's happening more and more these days, where women are the serious/do good at school/ambitious/go to college/have a career ones, and the men are just oafs with no drive, no ambition, and work menial/skill-less jobs and want a "sugar momma" to take care of them.

    Sad, but just another symptom of the insanity of the modern world.

    I agree with everyone else's advice -- you'll have to look among the Trad. Catholic world for a man who hasn't already been *destroyed* by the world's upside-down ideas. Trust me, they exist. I know plenty of guys (mostly online) that are just as despondent about finding a traditional Catholic woman. How can that be possible? You guys just need to get in the same room or something ;)

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    « Reply #4 on: November 16, 2010, 08:37:27 AM »
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  • I'll admit, even though I was relatively mature (at least I'd like to think), it was a *bit* scary to think that supporting my family was all on me. That I was *responsible* for bringing in X amount of money every month, or else!

    I can imagine how comforting it would be to only be HALF responsible, or ONE-THIRD responsible. Much less stress.

    But that kind of stress was meant to be, for all married men. It matures you. You get used to it, and before you know it you have a good niche/career where you can easily meet that responsibility. You give up many things to get to that point. And -- most importantly of all -- you become a man. Not just a boy who has been through puberty -- but a true man.

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    « Reply #5 on: November 16, 2010, 11:14:05 AM »
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  • Quote from: EcceAgnusDei
    when you say you want to be a housewife/SAHM? Are women supposed to wait to disclose that and pretend they want to have a career? It seems like as soon as you say you want to stay home they run in the other direction.   :scratchchin:


    It sounds like your around the WRONG kind of men... big time. Let me tell you, career women turn a real man OFF. A real man (who is worth marrying) is looking for a woman who want's to raise his children and assist him in maintaining his household. He obviously is not going to look for that in a woman who wants to be successful and bring in the income and taking his place if not competing with him for the place of bread-winner, contradicting his natural instincts as the provider of the family. A real man will not stand for it, because that's the way God naturally wired men to be. And if you are focused on a career it is obvious that you are more concerned with making money rather than raising a family. So letting everyone know you want to be a stay-at-home-mom (regardless of how many buffoons look down on you) is like displaying a sign saying REAL MEN WANTED: EFFEMINATES  NEED NOT APPLY! Dont worry about the small number of applicants, because you gotta remember, your looking at quality not quantity here (you only get one anyway LOL!).
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    « Reply #6 on: November 16, 2010, 11:18:28 AM »
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  • In modern society the "stay at home mom" is generally not the traditional Catholic mom.  She doesn't obey her husband.  She wants to control finances.  She doesn't have many children to care for.  She has a maid clean and she likes to eat at restaurants.  She wants a man to take care of her but does not offer anything in return.

    It's understandable why "modern men" are wary of women who don't want to "pull their weight."

    But that's because they don't believe in the full commitment and they don't expect that commitment from women.

    Whats really pernicious, is when a man thinks he's marrying a Catholic girl but ends up with some priest who gives evil advice to the woman.  I bet this happens in the Novus Ordo "all the time" - and I wouldn't doubt it i happens among trads to some extent as well.

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    « Reply #7 on: November 16, 2010, 11:23:58 AM »
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  • And let's be honest.  Most trad girls are getting educations for careers.  Is this really the way they should spend the bloom of their maidenhood?

    I don't think so, but the modern world and those who conform to this aspect of it - sometimes with good reasons, but often blindly following its customs and values - are not thinking about it from that perspective.


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    « Reply #8 on: November 16, 2010, 02:48:36 PM »
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  • Matthew pretty much hit the nail on the head. A non-Traditional Catholic man has a tendency to be lazy, instead of taking full responsibility he wants the wife to work, too so he can sit back and do nothing every now and then after he is finished working for the day. If he even has a job. Something I would like to add is that NO Catholic families are usually more wealthy than Traditional Catholic families. Why? Because Traditionalists understand that the woman working outside the home is an evil unless completely necessary. NO Catholics, on the other hand, could care less because their parish priests don't see anything wrong with it themselves! And why would NO Catholics who probably see nothing wrong with the New Mass, the handshake of peace, woman altar servers and priests, all stuff see anything wrong with the woman getting a job? Yet another danger of the NO.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #9 on: November 16, 2010, 04:10:31 PM »
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  • Novus Ordo Catholics have no problem with "modern world" customs because a fundamental feature of the Novus Ordo is "openness to the modern world" or acceptance of it.

    Traditional Catholics, on the other hand, keep the ancient Catholic custom of opposing the World more often than not -- because "the World" is listed with the Flesh and the Devil for a reason!

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    « Reply #10 on: November 16, 2010, 05:49:31 PM »
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  • I guess I just haven't met any REAL men yet. I'll have to talk to God about this! :pray:

    I just feel like whenever I say that I want to stay at home and not have a career, people just peg me as needy. It's hard to explain but I haven't been met with one positive response from telling people what I want for my future. They all say I need to have my career before I can meet a man and settle down because I don't want to be dependent on someone. It's all just so confusing...


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    « Reply #11 on: November 16, 2010, 07:22:53 PM »
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    I guess I just haven't met any REAL men yet. I'll have to talk to God about this! :pray:

    I just feel like whenever I say that I want to stay at home and not have a career, people just peg me as needy. It's hard to explain but I haven't been met with one positive response from telling people what I want for my future. They all say I need to have my career before I can meet a man and settle down because I don't want to be dependent on someone. It's all just so confusing...


    Remember what I asked you... these people who tell you such things, are they HAPPY? If not, why listen to them?

    Trust me, if you were to tell these same people that you wanted to become a nun or a martyr they would tell you to get a career first. Why? Because anything other than making money and (fake) social status doesnt matter to them.
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    « Reply #12 on: November 16, 2010, 09:26:47 PM »
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  • I was just the opposite. Career women turned me off. Who wants a wife driven by her career who, even if she wants kids, will have them raised by daycare so she can hit the office and "get ahead". Career women are trained to act like men, but wear lipstick. Feminine qualities are seen by them to be a sign of weakness in the business world. Women lawyers seem to be the worst in this regard.

    There may be truth to the fact that a girl needs enough education to be able to help support herself in a feminine occupation such as teaching or nursing, but I see no reason for girls to borrow huge amounts of money to go to med school or law school, put off getting married, and then feeling obligated to work even with children to pay off the loans. Yet girls are encouraged to do this all the time to the point that they outnumber men in law schools now. Then you have single women and married women (who don't need the money) working taking high paying jobs away from husbands and fathers who need to support their families.

    This mindset is also supported by "conservative" NO organizations like Opus Dei. They encourage girls to become lay celibates for them who sign over their salaries. Since "work is prayer", if women want to work and give more money to OD then work away and get holier by all means!

    We live in interesting times....

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    « Reply #13 on: November 16, 2010, 09:48:01 PM »
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  • It seems like the Catholic pool is already small but once you add in traditional Mass, homeschooling, and a rural lifestyle, there are about 5 people to choose from lol.  :cussing:

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    « Reply #14 on: November 16, 2010, 09:59:46 PM »
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    It seems like the Catholic pool is already small but once you add in traditional Mass, homeschooling, and a rural lifestyle, there are about 5 people to choose from lol.  :cussing:


    Take a look in the next tank, honey. There's more than one in the shop. lol
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