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Offline gobosox91

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Vatican II is whore of Babylon?
« on: March 10, 2013, 09:26:38 PM »
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  • I've heard some Traditionalist Catholics say that the Church since Vatican II is the harlot in Revelation 17 and 18, and it's being championed by youtube user PapalSoldier, who thinks the Dimond brothers are the greatest thinkers in the world.

    I'm just a little cautious about it. And here are my reasons why:

    The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits and they are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while.
    Maybe this rules out Vatican II? What else can be joined with the 7 kings and Vatican II?


    For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the passion of her immorality, and the kings of the earth have committed acts of immorality with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich by the wealth of her sensuality.”



    And the merchants of the earth weep and mourn over her, because no one buys their cargoes any more—   (does this apply to Vatican bank?)


    And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth.
    How can Vatican II be responsible for the deaths of everybody who was killed on earth?

    Wasn't there a charge made towards Jerusalem by our Lord?

    “Therefore, behold, I am sending you prophets and wise men and scribes; some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your ѕуηαgσgυєs, and persecute from city to city, so that upon you may fall the guilt of all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, the son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.


    Is there a chance that Vatican II is just something that needs to be done away with and that's it?


    Offline Robin

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    Vatican II is whore of Babylon?
    « Reply #1 on: March 10, 2013, 09:42:32 PM »
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  • I have heard this too.  On doing away with Vatican 2...many would be very happy for it just to go away but I don't believe it will. Too many sadly see no problem with it.


    Offline InfiniteFaith

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    Vatican II is whore of Babylon?
    « Reply #2 on: March 10, 2013, 11:07:43 PM »
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  • Some protestant sects believe that. One thing I point out to people who hold these views is that the Whore of Babylon is a city. Not a Church. Plus there are other cities who are a "city of seven hills". Not just Rome. I also think that scripture mentions how the Whore of Babylon is in the desert. In which case, it could not be Rome.

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    Vatican II is whore of Babylon?
    « Reply #3 on: March 11, 2013, 02:42:11 AM »
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  • If it is in the desert, then could it be Las Vegas?
    I've read this on Most Holy Family Monastery.

    Offline Stubborn

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    Vatican II is whore of Babylon?
    « Reply #4 on: March 11, 2013, 03:44:29 AM »
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  • Apocalypse xviii.

    Notes & Commentary:


    In this chapter is a repetition of the fall of Babylon and the mourning of other nations, and their consternation for its sudden destruction, to which may be applied the three mentioned expositions. Among the sorts of merchandise, (ver. 13.) are mentioned slaves, and the souls of men. Some of our Protestant adversaries (see Mr. Theophilus Higgons) tell us, that it is only Popish Rome that deals with this sort of merchandise. But I must needs say, our adversaries have the misfortune to betray a shameful ignorance, whensoever they undertake to bring proofs to shew the popes to be antichrist. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

    Read the rest here: http://haydock1859.tripod.com/id304.html
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse


    Offline Capt McQuigg

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    Vatican II is whore of Babylon?
    « Reply #5 on: March 11, 2013, 11:54:04 AM »
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  • Glad to have you back, gobosox91!

    I don't know if Vatican II was the Whore of Babylon but I do know that nothing of lasting value came out of Vatican II.  To Catholics, that is.  The autodemolition of the Catholic Church has meant that the Church is incapable from standing up to communism and is aiding and abetting the Jєωιѕн people in all their lustful desires.  So, to the enemies of the Catholic Faith, Vatican II was a very good thing.


    Offline michaela benedicta

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    Vatican II is whore of Babylon?
    « Reply #6 on: March 11, 2013, 08:21:47 PM »
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  • Just my two cents...

    From what I understand, the Whore of Babylon is either the U.N. or the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr.

    Love,
    +michaela b.

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    Vatican II is whore of Babylon?
    « Reply #7 on: May 02, 2013, 06:46:55 AM »
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  • The Whore of Babylon...

    It should be something that comes from Babylon, I mean, it should come from that place.
    It must have originated there, on those geographical coordinates, at a time, when a place known as "Babylon" existed.

    And then there is the "whore" word, that requires less explaining, I guess.

    Vatican II did not happen on Babylon, it happen in Rome, or Vatican City.

    At the time when Vatican II happened, there was no longer a city known as "Babylon".

    No, this can not be "symbolic". The bible does not contain information that is there "just because".

    The name "Babylon" is used because we are dealing with something really old, something that dates way back...    to Babylonian times.

    My best guess goes after satanic kabalah.

    The city of the seven hills is Jerusalem.
    If an echo doesn't answer, when it hears a certain sound, then the beast is free to wander, but never seen around.

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