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Offline Lady in Waiting

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Re: Why are Western European Men so Effeminate?
« Reply #45 on: January 18, 2019, 11:47:23 AM »
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  • It is good to see intelligent thought concerning the various cultures.


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    Re: Why are Western European Men so Effeminate?
    « Reply #46 on: January 18, 2019, 01:05:16 PM »
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  • Because they are being raised by single moms.
    THIS

    And if they're not being raised by single Moms, they're being raised by a dominant Mom and a wimpy Dad who apologizes for his maleness, thereby thoroughly confusing his sons.
    This is where much of the sodomite population comes from.  (Big surprise there)


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    Re: Why are Western European Men so Effeminate?
    « Reply #47 on: January 18, 2019, 01:26:24 PM »
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  • Sorry to those who would like more stories.  Perhaps sometimes Lady in Waiting will start her own Blog, now that I am learning what that is.  Here is why I am leaving:

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    Re: Why are Western European Men so Effeminate?
    « Reply #48 on: January 18, 2019, 02:24:25 PM »
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  • As annoying as effeminate men are, we should still pray for them daily.

    Some of these men are just following what they consider to be a popular fad, or at least that's what I hope is the case.

    Many of them just follow the narrative in a psychological process of "Sour Grapes" rationalization. Deep down inside they know they don't have what it takes to become truly masculine men; so instead of putting their efforts into leveling up to the traditional standards, they just hate and rebel against the standards.

    "If the ideal is unattainable, pathologize the ideal".

    The same with the feminist women who demonize the traditional standards of ideal femininity...

    And the same with the ugly and insecure women who support these "toxic masculinity" campaigns. They hate the truly masculine man, simply because they know they cannot really have him, and resent him for it. Deep down inside, they know that a truly masculine man will never commit themselves to them, at least not in any serious way.
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

    Offline Quid Retribuam Domino

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    Re: Why are Western European Men so Effeminate?
    « Reply #49 on: January 18, 2019, 05:03:23 PM »
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  • and I consider a Brad Pitt, Leonardo DiCaprio, and Dustin Hoffman as being the examples of the beginnings of effeminacy.

    You're way off, brah. Effeminacy of males in American culture started way before those soy boys. I studied the effeminization of males in American popular culture, and it started gaining traction with the 1970s series Hardy Boys, and teen pop in the 1970s, and the Disco culture of the 1970s. Teen idol culture started in the 1970s. Some of you might be old enough to remember it. I was too young, but I studied it about 9 years ago to figure out why men became soy, and why teens in general are put on a pedestal over adults in these latter days, and why the Western standard for "beauty" keeps getting younger and younger.
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    Re: Why are Western European Men so Effeminate?
    « Reply #50 on: January 18, 2019, 05:25:17 PM »
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  • You're way off, brah. Effeminacy of males in American culture started way before those soy boys. I studied the effeminization of males in American popular culture, and it started gaining traction with the 1970s series Hardy Boys, and teen pop in the 1970s, and the Disco culture of the 1970s. Teen idol culture started in the 1970s. Some of you might be old enough to remember it. I was too young, but I studied it about 9 years ago to figure out why men became soy, and why teens in general are put on a pedestal over adults in these latter days, and why the Western standard for "beauty" keeps getting younger and younger.

    Nancy Drew and the Hardy Boys Mysteries. LOL

    There were other TV shows with teen sensations, too. It sowed the seeds of the metrosɛҳuąƖ male, soy boy, nu-male, homo culture.
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    Re: Why are Western European Men so Effeminate?
    « Reply #51 on: January 19, 2019, 12:22:20 AM »
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  • I've heard that in parts of the Middle East, even male friends hold hands. Because over there, there's never any question that two men showing affection towards each other are gαy. It used to be the same in the West, if you look at very old photographs of men you see many men in poses that'd get them called gαy today.
    Indeed. Asian girls and old Vietnamese men still hold hands when out walking and just hanging out together. You can experiance this in some ofthe Asian communities out here in Texas as well, not just "across the pond" in their native land. 

    My best friend - who is like a brother -  and I have told eachother "I love you" and have been jeered at by his nephew for being gαy. However, on the flip side of the coin, I feel sorry for youngsters who see deep friendship as gαy. It means they've never experianced a truly close friendship and may even be telling of their relations with their own immediate family.
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    Re: Why are Western European Men so Effeminate?
    « Reply #52 on: January 19, 2019, 01:57:37 PM »
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  • Indeed. Asian girls and old Vietnamese men still hold hands when out walking and just hanging out together. You can experiance this in some ofthe Asian communities out here in Texas as well, not just "across the pond" in their native land.

    My best friend - who is like a brother -  and I have told eachother "I love you" and have been jeered at by his nephew for being gαy. However, on the flip side of the coin, I feel sorry for youngsters who see deep friendship as gαy. It means they've never experianced a truly close friendship and may even be telling of their relations with their own immediate family.
    We are talking about European men having become effeminate, some of you here are attempting to show that it is OK for men to hold hands and tell each other they love each other because it is done in Asian or some other culture? What are you trying to interject here?
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    Re: Why are Western European Men so Effeminate?
    « Reply #53 on: January 19, 2019, 03:00:20 PM »
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  • We are talking about European men having become effeminate, some of you here are attempting to show that it is OK for men to hold hands and tell each other they love each other because it is done in Asian or some other culture? What are you trying to interject here?
    Perhaps that the Catholic Church is not American but Universal, and that, in many cultures, touching another person, whether of the same or of the opposite sex does not necessarily have sɛҳuąƖ overtones, and so is not necessarily a sign of sɛҳuąƖ perversion.
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    Re: Why are Western European Men so Effeminate?
    « Reply #54 on: January 19, 2019, 05:40:49 PM »
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  • We are talking about European men having become effeminate, some of you here are attempting to show that it is OK for men to hold hands and tell each other they love each other because it is done in Asian or some other culture? What are you trying to interject here?

    Perhaps that the Catholic Church is not American but Universal, and that, in many cultures, touching another person, whether of the same or of the opposite sex does not necessarily have sɛҳuąƖ overtones, and so is not necessarily a sign of sɛҳuąƖ perversion.
    Precisely. Amongst the Romans it was customary to seal a vow or a promise with a kiss, like we still do at weddings. However, the mouth kiss was specifically for the spouses at the marriage ceremony, as I understand. In many western cultures like France, Portugal and Italy, it is still customary to kiss people on the cheek and may even be rude if you do not.

    In TLM Solmn High Mass "The Kiss of Peace" was given to show forgiveness to everyone that may have given or received offence. Nowadays it is no more than a hug, but it used to be a kiss on the cheek or even both cheeks. In the Malankara, they touch hands and bow. There is nothing perverse in these customs from around the world, nor effeminate.

    I was explaining to a friend earlier this week that there isnt necessarily anything wrong with some folks - like his novus ordo family members - holding hands while praying in the privacy of their home together. Humans are by nature creatures who seek warmth and comfort, especially in the form of touch. Holding hands may be for some a way of feeling reassured and a more tangible solidarity with their family while praying.

    There are many customs that may seem foreign to us, or may think are bad because we feel our masculinity attacked in the current climate. However, they are very natural to both sexes.
    Many people say "For the Honor and Glory of God!" but, what they should say is "For the Love, Glory and Honor of God". - Fr. Paul of Moll

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    Re: Why are Western European Men so Effeminate?
    « Reply #55 on: January 19, 2019, 05:56:39 PM »
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  • Perhaps that the Catholic Church is not American but Universal, and that, in many cultures, touching another person, whether of the same or of the opposite sex does not necessarily have sɛҳuąƖ overtones, and so is not necessarily a sign of sɛҳuąƖ perversion.
    Where did anyone mention that European men are touching each other? What does touching each other have to do with this thread? 
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    Re: Why are Western European Men so Effeminate?
    « Reply #56 on: January 19, 2019, 06:09:58 PM »
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  • Where did anyone mention that European men are touching each other? What does touching each other have to do with this thread?
    Someone just mentioned the sɛҳuąƖisation of our culture and how before that(and before ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity and other obscenities were normalised), affection between friends was just seen as friendly rather than nowadays where everyone insists every duo in old cowboy movies MUST have been gαy for each other. 
    It went a bit off topic but there's no need to act like we're trying to tell people to be gαy, quite the opposite. 

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    Re: Why are Western European Men so Effeminate?
    « Reply #57 on: January 19, 2019, 06:25:11 PM »
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  • You're way off, brah. Effeminacy of males in American culture started way before those soy boys. I studied the effeminization of males in American popular culture, and it started gaining traction with the 1970s series Hardy Boys, and teen pop in the 1970s, and the Disco culture of the 1970s. Teen idol culture started in the 1970s.

    Yep, those guys were effeminate, but you're a little off.  It started with the Hippies, the "flower children" men ... who preferred to "make love, not war", etc.  And their immediate predecessors were the softening post-war generation of the 1950s.

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    Re: Why are Western European Men so Effeminate?
    « Reply #58 on: January 19, 2019, 08:04:52 PM »
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  • Where did anyone mention that European men are touching each other? What does touching each other have to do with this thread?
    I answered your question in reply 52. I think you must know that holding hands is touching, no?
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    Re: Why are Western European Men so Effeminate?
    « Reply #59 on: January 20, 2019, 06:29:49 AM »
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  • Yep, those guys were effeminate, but you're a little off.  It started with the Hippies, the "flower children" men ... who preferred to "make love, not war", etc.  And their immediate predecessors were the softening post-war generation of the 1950s.

    You're correct.
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