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Who was racist in 1940?
« on: March 17, 2013, 03:41:40 PM »
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  • No one used the term -- is it because everyone was racist back then?

    Or were the real racists simply called "bad men", "criminals", etc.?

    Even the good people, who didn't hate other races or commit crimes against other races were content with things like segregation, people marrying within their own races, certain career limitations for blacks, etc.

    Did modern-day liberals invent the term "racist" because they think we've evolved -- or at least some of us have (the liberals, they would say) -- and that everyone in the 1940's was in the dark ages -- they were ALL bad, because they didn't mount any significant protests against segregation?

    Does anyone know when the term "racist" was first used, and who invented the term?
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    Who was racist in 1940?
    « Reply #1 on: March 17, 2013, 03:50:36 PM »
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  • When I show you a picture of a black man, none of you think "computer programmer". Does that make you racist?

    In the 1940's, everyone was comfortable with that.

    Today, everyone is uncomfortable.
    They go out of their way, because of liberal "political correctness", to pretend as if every career field should have the same demographics as the public at large.

    In short, they want to brainwash everyone into thinking that race is no different than eye color.

    Then why was my college course "Object-oriented programming in C++" filled with mostly white men (with a couple guys of Indian descent)? The class was 100% male and 90% white.

    This was at a local community college -- not part of a 4-year program or anything like that. And there are plenty of grants/programs/loans these days, ESPECIALLY for minorities. This isn't the 1950's! Let's face it -- any minority that wants to go to college, can.

    Here are the demographics for the town I was in:

    65.1% White (58.4% Non-Hispanic white), 20.5% African American, 0.4% Native American, 2.9% Asian, 0.01% Pacific Islander, 7.5% from other races, and 3.6% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 15.8% of the population.

    Let's just say it wasn't Bismarck, North Dakota (92.4% White, 0.7% African American, 4.5% Native American, 0.6% Asian, 0.3% from other races, and 1.5% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 1.3% of the population.)

    So the one example I gave seems to give the lie to the liberal brainwashing that pervades the modern world. I can't open a kid's toy catalog without seeing one of each race on every page. For each career depiction (kid's costumes for example), they roll the dice and pick a race that way.

    People used to accept reality as part of common sense. Now they fight it.
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    Who was racist in 1940?
    « Reply #2 on: March 17, 2013, 03:54:47 PM »
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  • Is it racist when I go to local stores (the computer and grocery) and see the manager is black I tend to assume that the promotion is affirmative action.

    I don't automatically conclude that mind you, it's just the first thought that pops into my head.

    Racist?

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    Who was racist in 1940?
    « Reply #3 on: March 17, 2013, 04:01:16 PM »
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    Is it racist when I go to local stores (the computer and grocery) and see the manager is black I tend to assume that the promotion is affirmative action.

    I don't automatically conclude that mind you, it's just the first thought that pops into my head.

    Racist?


    Well, we all know that affirmative action exists.

    If anything, it hurts their cause because it makes it sound like they need special treatment.

    If they are "just as good" they shouldn't need special treatment. That goes for women as well as minorities.

    I just don't believe that businessmen would consistently (across geographic, temporal, and industry boundaries) shoot themselves in the foot by passing up "great candidates" for various upper-level positions.

    Why would it keep happening -- again, and again, and again? Maybe because they're not as suitable for some reason?

    I can understand a knuckle-dragger having a tribal mentality (I'm talking about white men who hate minorities), but a businessman? Business is all about making money. You hire the man (or woman) who can best do the job.

    And that business owner can't say, "But if I hire this black man, my customers will put me out of business" because that is fallacious for many reasons:

    1. Not everyone is possessed by hatred. In fact, most men are not!
    2. Not all positions are highly public or visible.
    3. Don't minorities have money or buy things? Don't you suppose minorities would go out of their way to support a business that gives promotions to people of all races based on merit?  So you'd lose the business of 10 guys in Appalachia, and gain the business of hundreds of others.

    I could go on.

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    Who was racist in 1940?
    « Reply #4 on: March 17, 2013, 06:40:23 PM »
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    No one used the term -- is it because everyone was racist back then?


    Anyone white person today who speaks in the same manner as did typical people of that time is called racist, compared to klansmen, treated as pariahs, compared to nαzιs, etc.

    In fact, any white person today who speaks in an unguarded moment what they really think is likely to be suspect of racist, even if they buy into today's propaganda, people still have to guard what they say to avoid branding.

    That's what society becomes under cultural marxism.

    And so-called "trads" who enable cultural marxism are enemies.


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    Who was racist in 1940?
    « Reply #5 on: March 17, 2013, 06:47:10 PM »
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  • CORRECTION:

    Any white person today who speaks in the same manner as did the typical people of that time is called racist, compared to klansmen, treated as pariahs, compared to nαzιs, etc.

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    Who was racist in 1940?
    « Reply #6 on: March 17, 2013, 06:58:18 PM »
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    When I show you a picture of a black man, none of you think "computer programmer". Does that make you racist?

    In the 1940's, everyone was comfortable with that.

    Today, everyone is uncomfortable.
    They go out of their way, because of liberal "political correctness", to pretend as if every career field should have the same demographics as the public at large.

    In short, they want to brainwash everyone into thinking that race is no different than eye color.

    Then why was my college course "Object-oriented programming in C++" filled with mostly white men (with a couple guys of Indian descent)? The class was 100% male and 90% white.

    This was at a local community college -- not part of a 4-year program or anything like that. And there are plenty of grants/programs/loans these days, ESPECIALLY for minorities. This isn't the 1950's! Let's face it -- any minority that wants to go to college, can.

    Here are the demographics for the town I was in:

    65.1% White (58.4% Non-Hispanic white), 20.5% African American, 0.4% Native American, 2.9% Asian, 0.01% Pacific Islander, 7.5% from other races, and 3.6% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 15.8% of the population.

    Let's just say it wasn't Bismarck, North Dakota (92.4% White, 0.7% African American, 4.5% Native American, 0.6% Asian, 0.3% from other races, and 1.5% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 1.3% of the population.)

    So the one example I gave seems to give the lie to the liberal brainwashing that pervades the modern world. I can't open a kid's toy catalog without seeing one of each race on every page. For each career depiction (kid's costumes for example), they roll the dice and pick a race that way.

    People used to accept reality as part of common sense. Now they fight it.


    It makes me wonder why there isn't a single city, with more than 10,000 people, that is 100% white. It almost makes me wonder if minorities are spreading themselves out over every single city intentionally. If there were a city that was 100% white I would move there.

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    Who was racist in 1940?
    « Reply #7 on: March 17, 2013, 07:06:43 PM »
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    It almost makes me wonder if minorities are spreading themselves out over every single city intentionally


    It's the government that's behind it.  The government provides cheap loans for immigrants.  This is not anyone's imagination.  It is deliberate policy.  The government settle Somalis and other minorities in northern rural areas very intentionally.  They subsidize section 8 housing in rural towns and send blacks into small white towns intentionally.  They support and subsidize illegal immigrants with benefits and medical care, intentionally.  When a local grocery was bought by an Indian immigrant, and later failed, he simply skipped out on the store, these ethnic networks operate with impunity in the US.

    The goal is revolutionary transformation of the society and culture by the government, using the tactic of divide and conquer.  They know the minorities can be counted on to support the cultural marxist agenda - these groups know who butters their bread, and if the agenda utterly transforms and eventually ruins the host nation, they could care less.

    Liberal PC "professionals" also support this policy, because it is a way they maintain their social status.  Those who speak against it are on thin ice.




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    Who was racist in 1940?
    « Reply #8 on: March 17, 2013, 07:22:21 PM »
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  • Yes, it's a deliberate policy of the enemies of Christianity and of Europe, but PC "trads" support it and call those against it "racists," showing that they are really cultural marxists.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18519395

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/northamptonshire/6406307.stm


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    Who was racist in 1940?
    « Reply #9 on: March 17, 2013, 07:42:31 PM »
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  • The present concept of racism is a byproduct of schizophrenic modernism which has sought to replace true morality, which is perfectly expressed in the Catholic faith alone, with the imagined concepts of social evils.  The modern man is a libertine that, despite his conscious and committed efforts to be free of all reasonable moral restraint, suffers very real pains in that withered and pitiful organ of conscience which he possesses despite his brutish inclinations.  He must explain and justify these pains, so he has invented a set of ambiguous, vacillating caricatures of real evil which he cannot hope, and honestly does not truly seek, to live up to.  I do not use the word "schizophrenic" inappropriately, for very often those poor souls that truly suffer that miscarriage of mind and reason do harm to body because they feel that their nightmarish conception of themselves merit it.

    Racial prejudice is natural, healthy and warranted, despite the bleatings of liberals and modernists.  Like any other prejudice, it involves very simply the momentary calculation of probabilities that a particular individual, because of race, age or some other immediately assessible factor, will act in a particular manner in response to a given stimulus.  Let us assume for a moment that we have a geographic area, a town or city, which is populated chiefly by one racial majority and a second racial minority, and that the minority is expressed generally by a lack of education, wealth and employment level.  We know from the Tenth Commandment that those with less, lacking sufficient grace, will covet those with more, and from that will spring a desire to them harm, by taking life, good health, property, or any combination of the three.  Would any sane and rational man permit his son or daughter to walk through such areas unprotected?  To seek a mate among them without pause or comment?  Liberals would have us believe that the flush are at fault for the actions of thin, that the rich, simply by virtue of being rich, owe the poor what they do not and will not earn for themselves.  To such notions, and though I disagree with the moral expressions of her Objectivist philosophy, I believe Ayn Rand said it very well when she posited that the man that is ashamed of his wealth is one that didn't come by it honestly.

    Make no mistake that racial hatred truly does exist.  I've seen it in every country that I've ever been in.  In America, in Britian, in France, in Russia, in India, in Israel.  In a dozen tongues, in every color of skin which God, is His love and wisdom, sought to make diverse.   It has been my experience that such men do not simply stop at race.  Their acceptance of hate allows it to grow and fester in their soul, and they come to hate all men for something.

    I do not have many friends, nor do I want them, but my reluctance to associate with others is based on action, something which is absolutely voluntary.  Even for those whom I personally despise, I pray that God will bless them and bring them to knowledge of the truth, which alone is found in the teaching of the Church.  That is how a Catholic should determine any culpability in hatred, racial or otherwise.  If you avoid their company because of race, because of culture, because of language, because of behavior, but you nonetheless pray for the intention of the sanctification of their souls, I truly believe that a Catholic may rest knowing that they are not guilty of hatred.

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    Who was racist in 1940?
    « Reply #11 on: March 17, 2013, 09:27:44 PM »
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    It almost makes me wonder if minorities are spreading themselves out over every single city intentionally


    It's the government that's behind it.  The government provides cheap loans for immigrants.  This is not anyone's imagination.  It is deliberate policy.  The government settle Somalis and other minorities in northern rural areas very intentionally.  They subsidize section 8 housing in rural towns and send blacks into small white towns intentionally.  They support and subsidize illegal immigrants with benefits and medical care, intentionally.  When a local grocery was bought by an Indian immigrant, and later failed, he simply skipped out on the store, these ethnic networks operate with impunity in the US.

    The goal is revolutionary transformation of the society and culture by the government, using the tactic of divide and conquer.  They know the minorities can be counted on to support the cultural marxist agenda - these groups know who butters their bread, and if the agenda utterly transforms and eventually ruins the host nation, they could care less.

    Liberal PC "professionals" also support this policy, because it is a way they maintain their social status.  Those who speak against it are on thin ice.




    I can see that. I also wonder if minorities are acting as spies to the federal government.

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    « Reply #12 on: March 18, 2013, 04:07:20 PM »
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  • As i understand it, terms like racism, sexism and anti-semitism are considered to be forms of bigotry, which drive members of groups to discriminate against others, who violate group norms/do not belong to the group.    

    "Social theories such as Egalitarianism claim that social equality should prevail...  In contrast... {some claim} the freedom of discrimination in human societies is a fundamental human right..."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination




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    « Reply #13 on: March 18, 2013, 04:26:55 PM »
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  • Of course, we still have all sorts of group dynamics.  We just have different standards today, than we used to.  
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    « Reply #14 on: March 18, 2013, 06:58:25 PM »
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  • I think what's different from the past and more recent times is that the standards for groups have changed, because our culture has gone through a revolution.  I think that revolution was cultural and since western culture is more than anything else a product of catholicism, the revolution was anti-catholic in nature.  Of course, there are other more specific reasons i think that, like this revolutions attack on the family/family values.  gαy marriage being the latest manifestation of that.  

    Race/ethnicity is basically one big extended family.  So, it isn't surprising to me, that race/blood lines/ancestry would be targeted for destruction.  On the other hand, there is this support for seeing all mankind as one big family.  That, i think, is not motivated by a desire for brotherly love, but rather a desire to destroy existing mega-extended family groupings (what we call racial/ethinc groups).  One reason I think that is because people like susan sontag refer to the human race as a disease that should be destroyed, for the good of the planet, the solar system and ultimately, the universe.  

    We are true israel and israel is in bondage.