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Who plans on voting for President Trump?

I plan to enthusiastically vote for President Trump.
I plan to reluctantly vote for President Trump.
I plan to vote for the Democratic nominee.
I plan to vote third party or write in.
I don’t plan on voting in the 2020 presidential election.
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Offline Quo vadis Domine

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Re: Who plans on voting for President Trump?
« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2020, 05:56:36 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on February 20, 2020, 05:52:04 PM
    What idiot low-IQ voter would NOT vote for someone just because of something this lame?  So what if he screamed a little; big deal.  Now his positions were evil, but that's a legitimate reason to not vote for him.
    Good point.
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    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

    Offline RomanCatholic1953

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    Re: Who plans on voting for President Trump?
    « Reply #31 on: February 23, 2020, 08:36:12 AM »
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    • Those whom voted that they are not going to vote for President Trump and stay home instead of voting.
    Your vote will be cast anyway most likely for the very liberal Democratic candidate because many of the voting
    precincts are controlled by Democrats. Precinct Captains are awarded for 100% turnouts.
    I say you should vote for Trump reluctantly.
    Third party candidates has no history of winning, and just takes away votes from the leading candidates that
    most likely be Republicans and Conservative candidates.
    Vote for Trump reluctantly. He is the lesser of the evils that the Democrats will bring.
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    Re: Who plans on voting for President Trump?
    « Reply #32 on: February 23, 2020, 05:15:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: RomanCatholic1953 on February 19, 2020, 07:27:02 PM
    Read this before voting:

    Be aware this is authored by a Protestant Minister

    by RBN Staff
    Trump’s Deal With The Devil
    January 30, 2020 in Columnists, News by RBN Staff


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    By Chuck Baldwin
    January 30, 2020

    Donald Trump’s so-called Deal of the Century unveiled this past Tuesday is actually a deal with the devil. This so-called Middle East Peace Plan would more accurately be called the “Permanent Palestinian Enslavement Act”—otherwise known as the “Save Benjamin Netanyahu’s Derriere Act.”

    On the very day that Netanyahu was formally indicted on
    And so you will vote for the baby killer ?
    Or stay home.
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    Offline alaric

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    Re: Who plans on voting for President Trump?
    « Reply #33 on: February 23, 2020, 05:51:48 PM »
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    • Quote from: Banezian on February 20, 2020, 12:33:27 AM
    Yes, as long as he doesn’t start a war with Iran between now and November
    He'll do whatever Israel tells him to do.

    Besides, he already has.

    But, in the Donald's defense, we've been at war with Iran since '79.

    He just made it a little hotter.
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    Offline Parasitic Eww

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    Re: Who plans on voting for President Trump?
    « Reply #34 on: February 23, 2020, 07:00:38 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on February 20, 2020, 09:33:32 AM
    Even though I'm an enthusiastic Trump supporter (GO PRO-LIFE! Keep appointing those conservative judges and SC Justices! etc.)

    Those judges haven't been put to the Litmus Test since they've assumed their positions. Prepare for them to flip on the infanticide issue.
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    Re: Who plans on voting for President Trump?
    « Reply #35 on: February 23, 2020, 07:53:13 PM »
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    • Quote from: Parasitic Eww on February 23, 2020, 07:00:38 PM
    Those judges haven't been put to the Litmus Test since they've assumed their positions. Prepare for them to flip on the infanticide issue.

    You may not be wrong.  We've been fooled before by some of these allegedly-conservative justices.
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    Re: Who plans on voting for President Trump?
    « Reply #36 on: February 23, 2020, 08:19:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cera on February 23, 2020, 05:15:04 PM
    And so you will vote for the baby killer ?
    Or stay home.
    Why don't you read the immediately previous post, i.e. No. 31?
    Trump is displeased to see Palestinian babies slaughtered, both in and outside the womb? Support for Israel is support for slaughter of innocents.
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    Offline Quo vadis Domine

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    Re: Who plans on voting for President Trump?
    « Reply #37 on: February 24, 2020, 04:16:53 AM »
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    • Quote from: Parasitic Eww on February 23, 2020, 07:00:38 PM
    Those judges haven't been put to the Litmus Test since they've assumed their positions. Prepare for them to flip on the infanticide issue.
    This scares me too, especially Kavanaugh. 
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    Re: Who plans on voting for President Trump?
    « Reply #38 on: February 24, 2020, 05:19:40 AM »
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    • It is a moral obligation for Catholics to support and vote for President Trump. President Trump has said he will replace pro-death Ginsburg with pro-life Catholic, Mom of 7, Judge Amy Barrett. That will be the end of legal abortion in America. That would be a huge, huge, victory, and failure to vote for it is seriously blameworthy.

    Article: "Sad to say, however, many citizens, even Catholics, have been remiss in their obligation of voting. Even people otherwise good, fail to exercise their right when duty demands it. They are negligent and careless when they should be interested and active. But the obligation of the ballot stands and the direct words of the American Hierarchy during the heated campaign of 1840 apply with equal fitness today:

    …reflect that you are accountable not only to society but to God for the honest, independent and fearless exercise of your franchise, that it is a trust confided to you, not for your private gain, but for the public good and that if yielding to any influence you act either through favor, affection or motives of dishonest gain against your own deliberate view of what will promote your country’s good, you have violated your trust, you have betrayed your conscience, and you are a renegade to your country. [10]

    But the gravity of the obligation received its strongest sanction from the present Holy Father, Pope Pius XII, in 1946 and in 1948 when he urged and commanded the faithful to vote in Italy. In a discourse to the Pastors and Lenten Preachers of Rome March 16, 1946, he gave this advice:

    The exercise of the right to vote is an act of grave responsibility, at least when there is the question involved of electing those whose office it will be to give the country its constitutions and its laws, particularly those which effect, for example, the sanctification of feast days, marriage, family life and school, the various phases of social life. It therefore falls to the Church to explain to the faithful their moral duties which derive from their right to vote. [11]

    To the same body of clergy he spoke two years later (March 10, 1948) and with even more emphasis. His words were the following:
     
    It is your right and duty to draw the attention of the faithful to the extraordinary importance of the coming elections and to the moral responsibility which follows from it for those who have the right to vote. In the present circuмstances it is strictly obligatory for whoever has the right, man or woman, to take part in the elections. He who abstains, particularly through indolence or cowardice, commits thereby a grave sin, a mortal offense. [12]

    In the face of such exhortations and commands by the Vicar of Christ on the obligation of voting it seems particularly fitting at this time to single out the moral obligation devolving upon all citizens who possess the right to vote. It seems fitting for another reason as well, viz., because a large portion of the eligible voters in the United States do not use their franchise through indifference, neglect, or a similar moral weakness.

    The specter of apathy and undesirable disinterestedness is rising more and more upon the country’s horizon. Many American citizens are not interested in their role as citizens; they clamor for their rights, but forget their duties; they insist upon what is owed them, but forget what they owe others. Thus the popular author, Fulton Oursler, observes the situation as neither healthy or happy.

    Today’s curse upon political life is not so much what is unlawful as what is unscrupulous. At the root of our decay is sickness of conscience. Moral obtuseness is a national plague over free government. This decline in national character is a serious danger, because if we lose our standards, all our liberties may be lost through abuses, corruption, and chaos…. “That is politics,” we say. As if politics needed to be a sinkhole. Without a vision the people are perishing; they are even finding something to admire in the slickness, the tricky deceitfulness by which the taxpayers are bilked. They smile at scoundrels in office as if they were only amusing scalawags. [13]

    Nor is such an attitude of unwarranted pessimism. For the number of United States citizens who voted in the presidential election of 1948 was a scandal. According to statistics only about fifty-two percent of the eligible voters used their vote- a sad commentary upon the civic conscience of the average citizen. If the trend continues it may well be that the words of Christopher Dawson about Europe may be fulfilled in the United States.

    To vote in an election or plebiscite today has ceased to be purely political action. It has become an affirmation of faith in a particular social philosophy and theory of history; a decision between two or three mutually exclusive forms of civilization. I do not say this is a good thing; or: the contrary, it means that history and social philosophy are being distorted and debased by political propaganda and party feeling. [14]

    The Catholic Church is not interested in voting as a purely political activity any more than she is interested in the purely political form of government. But she is interested in voting as moral activity with duties and obligations to which are conjoined important consequences for good or evil. On this matter Pope Pius XII has laid down this principle:

    The Church, indeed does not claim to interfere without reason in the direction of temporal or purely political affairs; nevertheless of her full right, she claims that the civil power must not allege this as an excuse for placing obstacles in the way of those higher goods on which the eternal salvation of man depends, for inflicting loss and injury through unjust laws and decrees, for impairing the divine constitution of the Church itself, or for trampling underfoot the sacred rights of God in civil society. [15]

    Through her interest in the rights of God and in the rights and duties of men, the Church declares in the Code of Canon Law that “…by her power and exclusive right the Church takes cognizance …of all matters in which is to be found a ratio peccati.” [16] These words, used by Pope Boniface VIII and Innocent III, do not refer exclusively to theological matters, but to all that pertains to the good of religion, either positively or negatively; positively, as they are necessary for the good of religion as the end of the Church; negatively, as they are obstacles to that end and must be eliminated.

    A further instance of the Church’s role of moral guidance in political affairs comes from the following statement of Pope Pius XII.
    The moral order and God’s commandments have a force equally in all fields of human activity. As far as the fields stretch, so far extends the mission of the Church, and also her teachings, warnings, and the counsel of the priest to the faithful confided to his care….The Catholic Church will never allow herself to be shut up within the four walls of the temple. The separation between religion and life, between the Church and the world is contrary to the Christian and Catholic idea. [17]

    Finally, as a concluding proof that politics is within the sphere of the Church’s interest and judgment insofar as moral issues are involved, we may quote Pope Pius X who declared in his first consistorial allocution November 9, 1903: “We do not conceal the fact that We shall shock some people by saying that We must necessarily concern ourselves with politics. But anyone forming an equitable judgment clearly sees that the Supreme Pontiff can in no wise violently withdraw the category of politics from subjection to the supreme control of faith and morals confided to him.” [18] http://www.catholicapologetics.info/morality/general/voting.htm
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    Re: Who plans on voting for President Trump?
    « Reply #39 on: February 24, 2020, 03:44:49 PM »
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    • Voting for Trump sadly is not going to save America.


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    President Donald Trump has officially designated Richard Grenell, the current U.S. ambassador to Germany, as the acting director of national intelligence, as Democrats claimed he was unqualified and chosen only for his loyalty.

    Grenell will become the first openly gαy member of the Cabinet. The Michigan native is also a former spokesman at the United Nations and worked on the 2012 presidential campaign of Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah.

    I am in a state that is rock solid Democrat so I can vote for a third party candidate.
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