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Who Killed Jesus Christ?
« on: March 28, 2013, 09:41:07 PM »
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  • Michael Hoffman has written the following new article, I thought some here may find it a good read:

    http://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/2013/03/who-killed-jesus-christ.html

    Who Killed Jesus Christ?

    By Michael Hoffman
     
    Maundy Thursday, 2013
     
    www.revisionisthistory.org
     
    Modern people think they know the answer to the question, "Who killed Jesus Christ?" They answer as they have been indoctrinated: all of our sins killed Jesus generally, and the Romans in particular were responsible. No other malefactors are specifically cited, except perhaps for a fleeting mention of a generic class of leaders, the “Chief Priests,” and a vague tribe referred to as “the people."
     
    Our sins did indeed contribute to the anguish, torment and death which Jesus suffered, and Pontius Pilate is a stand-in for every weak, compromising Lunchpail Joe and Retirement Harry throughout time who will only try to do the right thing if it doesn't cost them personally. Pilate's wife put a harbinger of spiritual doom in Pilate's ear, but the Jєωιѕн mob took the starch out of Pilate's spine when it served up a more immediate threat for him to contemplate: the wrath of Caesar.
     
    Pilate chose the friendship of his boss in Rome over friendship with the King of the Universe. How many times have we made an equally foolish choice -- of expedience over principle? Yes, we are all guilty of the death of Our Lord.
     
    Yet, when the account of the trial, torture and execution of the Son of God is reduced to only a universal poster for human depravity in general, a truth at the heart of this sacred narrative is denied.
     
    At this time of year sincere Christians endeavor to walk again in the footsteps of our Savior as he emerged from his 40 day fast to beg His Father in the Garden at Gethsemane to let the cup of an excruciatingly painful and shameful immolation, pass by.
     
    In endeavoring to penetrate as deeply as we can the mystery of the death of Jesus, it is necessary that all the factors in his murder are considered and encountered. It is a denial of the Cross to slink away from the truth as did all but two of the followers of Jesus on the Day of His Crucifixion.
     
    We cannot content ourselves, out of fear and political correctness, with referring to those who conspired to kill Him, in bland generic terms as "the Chief Priests and the People.”
     
    In the case of Judas, New Age gnostics paint him as a a misunderstood anti-hero who made possible the divine atonement by bringing about the inevitable Sacrifice that opened the gates of heaven. Without Judas, they say, Christ could not have fulfilled His mission. This assertion is presented to Gnostic initiates as a specially insightful esoteric revelation.
     
    But it ignores the plain meaning of Jesus words: "Woe unto the world because of offenses! For it must needs be that offenses come; but woe to that man by whom the offense come! (Matthew 18:7).
     
    Judas was not freed from the consequences of his betrayal by some occult notion of him serving as a righteous instrument of the inevitable. Some sinner was going to offend God and betray His Son. It tuned out that that someone was Judas Iscariot. Woe unto him, and to all who do as he did.
     
    The religion of Judaism, when it became enamored of the oral traditions and superstitions of men, became the idol that blinded the Jєωιѕн leadership and then the people, to the fact that their Messiah had arrived and was in their midst. Initially, He had come only for them.
     
    The Pharisees
     
    In the 1965 papal teaching "Nostra Aetate," it was declared, "...the Jєωιѕн authorities and those who followed their lead pressed for the death of Christ (John 19:6); still, what happened in His passion cannot be charged against all the Jєωs, without distinction, then alive, nor against the Jєωs of today. Although the Church is the new people of God, the Jєωs should not be presented as rejected or accursed by God, as if this followed from the Holy Scriptures."
     
    True, "it cannot be charged against all Jєωs." But as for the statement, "His passion cannot be charged against the Jєωs of today" this is without Biblical or patristic foundation. It is a heretical fabrication.
     
    The Pharisees had the major instigating role in the murder of God's Divine Son. Those who derive their spiritual patrimony from the Pharisees are today known as Orthodox Jєωs. Because of their belief, and not because of their alleged racial descent, these modern-day Pharisees are indeed guilty of deicide. They would crucify Jesus again, if they could. How do we know this? The most revered of all rabbis in the history of the West is Moses Maimonides. He is admired by liberals and conservatives, the Left and the Right, and most significantly, by the Orthodox wing of Judaism, for whom he is the paradigm of a great sage and legal authority.
     
    Rabbi Moses Maimonides
     
     In his tract, Avodat Kochavim, Rabbi Maimonides issued a divine mandate to kill the "wicked" Jesus Christ, as well as all Jєωs who follow Him, and all those who do not follow the тαℓмυd.
     
    Maimonides wrote: "It is a mitzvah (religious duty highly pleasing to God), to destroy Jєωιѕн traitors, minim (Christians), and apikorsim, and to cause them to descend to the pit of destruction, since they cause difficulty to the Jєωs and sway the people away from God, as did Jesus of Nazareth and his students, and Tzadok, Baithos, and their students. May the name of the wicked rot.”
     
    The holy name of Jesus Christ, by which every knee shall bow, is cursed by Judaism’s most esteemed, media-glorified rabbi, who dares to say of Him, "May the name of the wicked rot."
     
    (Maimonides’ allusion to "Tzadok and Baithos”  and to apikorsim, refers to opponents of the тαℓмυdic oral law).
     
    The тαℓмυd
     
    In the Babylonian тαℓмυd (BT) Sanhedrin 43a we read:
     
    "On Passover Eve they hanged Jesus of Nazareth. And the herald went out before him for 40 days and proclaimed, Jesus of Nazareth...practiced sorcery, incited and led Israel astray. Whoever knows of an argument that may be proposed in his favor should come and present that argument on his behalf. But the judges did not find an argument in his favor, so they hanged him on Passover Eve...Did Jesus of Nazareth deserve that a search be made for an argument in his favor? Surely he incited others to idol worship..."
     
    BT Sanhedrin 107b:
     
    Jesus "went and set up a brick to symbolize an idol and bowed down to it...Anyone who sins and also causes the community to sin is not permitted to do repentance. A Sage said: Jesus performed magic and incited the people of Israel and led them astray."
     
    The famous passage from the Gospel of Matthew about the Jєωs agreeing that Christ's blood would be on them and their children has been used to justify racial hatred for anyone labeled a "Jєω." This view is contrary to the New Testament, where race is only a determining issue for the proud rabbinic enemies of Jesus, not for His followers.
     
    The Blood Libel that is not a Libel
     
    The Gospel of Matthew has been indicted as the grounds by which countless "Jєωs" were murdered in pogroms due to the "Blood Libel" (Judaic persons supposedly falsely accused of torturing and murdering Christian children).  Tremendous advantage has been gained for Zionism and тαℓмυdism by the circulation of tales of bloodthirsty priests and Christian peasants attacking and killing Judaic persons on trumped charges of "ritually" murdering gentile infants and children.
     
    These archetypal tales of blamelessness and victimhood have an endless shelf life and are recycled year after year in spite of the fact that the truth of the ritual murder accusation has been confirmed by no less a figure than Ariel Toaff, the son of the Chief Rabbi of Rome. Toaff is Professor of Medieval History at Bar-Ilan University, outside Tel Aviv. He revealed the reality of Judaic ritual murder of Christians in his formidably researched masterwork, Pasque di Sangue ("Blood Passover”). He gives strong evidence that in some cases αѕнкenαzι "Jєωs" were indeed guilty of the ritual murder of Christian children in Europe.
     
    If his book had remained in print for more than a few days it might have completely overtuned one of the pillars of Zionist agit-prop. In the ensuing hysteria however, Pasque di Sangue was almost completely suppressed after the author recanted under immense pressure and threats of imprisonment and bodily harm.
     
    Pasque di Sangue has been accurately translated and published online in English as Blood Passover. The entire text is freely available at: http://www.bloodpassover.com/index1.htm
     It makes for sobering Good Friday reading.
     
    Concerning who killed Jesus Christ, the Apostle Paul declared:
     
    "For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jєωs: Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost." (I Thessalonians 2: 14-16).
     
    Paul's statement is unambiguous. It is not open to interpretation. It destroys the whole basis of the current, play-it-safe party line of Church and State.
     
    For most of its existence the Church proclaimed that beyond the evil that our own individual sins had wrought, and that of the Roman empire and its soldiers and procurators, it was the Jєωιѕн leaders and their followers who were responsible for the death of the Son of God. "Deicide" it was termed in my youth, in the years before Auschwitz became a synonym for cosmic suffering that surpassed Calvary.  Now, "post-h0Ɩ0cαųst," we are made to believe that God is not in heaven, he is on earth, in the person of the Jєωιѕн people themselves. The Cross has been replaced by the putative gas chambers. The "wrath come upon them to the uttermost," has come upon us as we cooperate in the imposture.
     
    Who killed Christ? He was killed at Golgotha at the behest of the majority of the Jєωs of Palestine. The heirs of those killers are among us today in the ranks of Orthodox Judaism.
     
    The memory of who killed Him - and why - that too has been killed.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.


    Offline Sigismund

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    Who Killed Jesus Christ?
    « Reply #1 on: March 28, 2013, 10:33:08 PM »
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  • The sins of all the world did Kill Christ.  There is no other Catholic answer.  
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir


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    Who Killed Jesus Christ?
    « Reply #2 on: March 28, 2013, 10:35:10 PM »
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  • Quote from: Sigismund
    The sins of all the world did Kill Christ.  There is no other Catholic answer.  


    Hoffman's point is that it was the Jєωs who betrayed Christ and condemned Him, and thus who were responsible for His death.

    Several Saints have specifically stated this, including St. John Chrysostom and Pope St. Pius V.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    Who Killed Jesus Christ?
    « Reply #3 on: March 28, 2013, 10:37:13 PM »
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  • Quote from: Pope St. Pius V
    “The Jєωιѕн people fell from the heights because of their faithlessness and condemned their Redeemer to a shameful death. Their godlessness has assumed such forms that, for the salvation of our own people, it becomes necessary to prevent their disease. Besides usury, through which Jєωs everywhere have sucked dry the property of impoverished Christians, they are accomplices of thieves and robbers; and the most damaging aspect of the matter is that they allure the unsuspecting through magical incantations, superstition, and witchcraft to the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan and boast of being able to predict the future. We have carefully investigated how this revolting sect abuses the name of Christ and how harmful they are to those whose life is threatened by their deceit. On account of these and other serious matters, and because of the gravity of their crimes which increase day to day more and more, We order that, within 90 days, all Jєωs in our entire earthly realm of justice — in all towns, districts, and places — must depart these regions.”


    Quote from: St. John Chrysostom
    The ѕуηαgσgυєs of the Jєωs are the homes of idolatry and devils, even though they have no images in them [Sermon I:3; based on Jer. vii:11]. They are worse even than heathen circuses [Sermon I:3] The very idea of going from a church to a ѕуηαgσgυє is blasphemous [Sermon II:3]; and to attend the Jєωιѕн Passover is to insult Christ. To be with the Jєωs on the very day they murdered Jesus is to ensure that on the Day of Judgment He will say ' Depart from Me: for you have had intercourse with my murderers'.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #4 on: March 28, 2013, 10:47:53 PM »
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  • Events happen with many causes.  This doesn't change the facts as to who the active agents are in bringing about those events.

    Often quotations are made of saints where they make rhetorical points about the Crucifixion.

    Quote from: St. Robert Bellarmine
    The drunkard is guiltier than the Saviour's crucifiers, for they were irresponsible fanatics, but he deliberately blinds his reason face to face with sin "a double crime," says Aristotle, "deserving double punishment," a crime once under ban of excommunication in the Church


    Does he wish this to be taken literally?

    Unfortunately, such remarks, like one in Roman Catechism,

    This guilt seems more enormous in us than in the Jєωs

     that are warnings for Catholics, are used to argue that Jєωs are not guiltier of the Deicide than anyone else.

    Such a position is obviously opposed to the teachings of Church and of the saints throughout history.

    The sophists are never ashamed to use such statements in order to derogate the Catholic religion in favor of Jєωs and to exculpate the Jєωs from the crime the Gospels recount.



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    Who Killed Jesus Christ?
    « Reply #5 on: March 28, 2013, 10:54:41 PM »
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  • His own nation did the deed, but every human being IS guilty for the death of Jesus Christ.  
    Our own personal sins made His cross even heavier, and if I were never born His Cross would have been much lighter.  
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    « Reply #6 on: March 28, 2013, 11:11:45 PM »
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  • Christ told Pontius Pilate the deliverer had the greater sin.

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    « Reply #7 on: March 28, 2013, 11:22:23 PM »
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  • Some "anti-Semitic" folks have gone so far as to say that Jesus was not a Jєω. He was only a Galilean.

    imo He was a Jєω from Galilee, Bethlehem, Nazareth, and Jerusalem, and he lived in Egypt for a time. He was circuмcised and read from the prophets at the ѕуηαgσgυє. He went in and out of the Temple like a Jєω. Some folks go to much trouble about what is a Jєω and what is Judaism. This is not such an important question to me. There are many more important ones.

    Who is the Most Holy Trinity but God?

    The genealogy of Jesus lists Judah as an ancestor, and Judea is the little country after that tribe. Joseph's brothers threw Joseph in the well, and Judah helped, and the Jєωs demanded that the Romans crucify Jesus, and they charged him with blasphemy and rebellion against Caesar.

    John:

    18 33 Pilate therefore went into the hall again and called Jesus and said to him: Art thou the king of the Jєωs? introivit ergo iterum in praetorium Pilatus et vocavit Iesum et dixit ei tu es rex Iudaeorum

    18 34 Jesus answered: Sayest thou this thing of thyself, or have others told it thee of me? et respondit Iesus a temet ipso hoc dicis an alii tibi dixerunt de me

    18 35 Pilate answered: Am I a Jєω? Thy own nation and the chief priests have delivered thee up to me. What hast thou done? respondit Pilatus numquid ego Iudaeus sum gens tua et pontifices tradiderunt te mihi quid fecisti

    18 36 Jesus answered: My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would certainly strive that I should not be delivered to the Jєωs: but now my kingdom is not from hence. respondit Iesus regnum meum non est de mundo hoc si ex hoc mundo esset regnum meum ministri mei decertarent ut non traderer Iudaeis nunc autem meum regnum non est hinc

    And the Jєωs demanded that Pilate free Barabbas and crucify Jesus instead.

    18 38 Pilate saith to him: What is truth? And when he said this, he went out again to the Jєωs and saith to them: I find no cause in him. dicit ei Pilatus quid est veritas et cuм hoc dixisset iterum exivit ad Iudaeos et dicit eis ego nullam invenio in eo causam

    18 39 But you have a custom that I should release one unto you at the Pasch. Will you, therefore, that I release unto you the king of the Jєωs? est autem consuetudo vobis ut unum dimittam vobis in pascha vultis ergo dimittam vobis regem Iudaeorum

    18 40 Then cried they all again, saying: Not this man, but Barabbas. Now Barabbas was a robber. clamaverunt rursum omnes dicentes non hunc sed Barabban erat autem Barabbas latro


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    « Reply #8 on: March 28, 2013, 11:33:44 PM »
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  • Quote from: ServusSpiritusSancti
    Quote from: Pope St. Pius V
    “The Jєωιѕн people fell from the heights because of their faithlessness and condemned their Redeemer to a shameful death. Their godlessness has assumed such forms that, for the salvation of our own people, it becomes necessary to prevent their disease. Besides usury, through which Jєωs everywhere have sucked dry the property of impoverished Christians, they are accomplices of thieves and robbers; and the most damaging aspect of the matter is that they allure the unsuspecting through magical incantations, superstition, and witchcraft to the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan and boast of being able to predict the future. We have carefully investigated how this revolting sect abuses the name of Christ and how harmful they are to those whose life is threatened by their deceit. On account of these and other serious matters, and because of the gravity of their crimes which increase day to day more and more, We order that, within 90 days, all Jєωs in our entire earthly realm of justice — in all towns, districts, and places — must depart these regions.”


    Quote from: St. John Chrysostom
    The ѕуηαgσgυєs of the Jєωs are the homes of idolatry and devils, even though they have no images in them [Sermon I:3; based on Jer. vii:11]. They are worse even than heathen circuses [Sermon I:3] The very idea of going from a church to a ѕуηαgσgυє is blasphemous [Sermon II:3]; and to attend the Jєωιѕн Passover is to insult Christ. To be with the Jєωs on the very day they murdered Jesus is to ensure that on the Day of Judgment He will say ' Depart from Me: for you have had intercourse with my murderers'.


    ... and would that the Federal Reserve scam should end. It's been almost 100 years of that fiend.

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    « Reply #9 on: March 28, 2013, 11:40:22 PM »
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  • Stanley Kubrick was a Jєω too, and he was definitely involved in the faked moon landings.

    I think Michael Hoffman still believes the earth orbits the sun, and that NASA landed on the moon and Mars.

    The Jєωs or somebody have him fooled there.

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    « Reply #10 on: March 28, 2013, 11:42:09 PM »
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    imo He was a Jєω from Galilee, Bethlehem, Nazareth, and Jerusalem, and he lived in Egypt for a time. He was circuмcised and read from the prophets at the ѕуηαgσgυє. He went in and out of the Temple like a Jєω. Some folks go to much trouble about what is a Jєω and what is Judaism.


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    Behold, I Paul tell you, that if you be circuмcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. (Galatians 5:2)
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.


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    « Reply #11 on: March 28, 2013, 11:43:50 PM »
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    imo He was a Jєω from Galilee, Bethlehem, Nazareth, and Jerusalem, and he lived in Egypt for a time. He was circuмcised and read from the prophets at the ѕуηαgσgυє. He went in and out of the Temple like a Jєω. Some folks go to much trouble about what is a Jєω and what is Judaism.


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    Behold, I Paul tell you, that if you be circuмcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. (Galatians 5:2)


    You wouldn't be one of the snide thumbs downer kids would you?

    Tell the truth?

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    « Reply #12 on: March 28, 2013, 11:45:33 PM »
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  • That was your reply?

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    « Reply #13 on: March 28, 2013, 11:47:14 PM »
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    That was your reply?


    You were saying He was Jєωιѕн and was circuмcised, I am just saying circuмcision is no longer necessary.

    It's also not accurate to say Christ was a Jєω in the religious sense of the word.
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    « Reply #14 on: March 28, 2013, 11:48:06 PM »
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  • Quo vadis?