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Offline AnneCatherine

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Who is the FSSP?
« on: March 01, 2013, 01:41:48 PM »
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    • I was told by a cousin (another convert) in Texas that the FSSP is allowed to say the Tridentine mass with the full backing of Rome.

    Sorry to sound so stupid, but I had not seen this before:

    http://fssp.com/press/what-is-the-fraternity-of-st-peter/
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    Who is the FSSP?
    « Reply #1 on: March 01, 2013, 01:47:57 PM »
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    • They have the full backing of Rome since they aren't allowed to criticize Vatican II.
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    Offline ServusSpiritusSancti

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    Who is the FSSP?
    « Reply #2 on: March 01, 2013, 01:51:36 PM »
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    • Yes, the FSSP (Fraternity of St. Peter) is a Traditional group that is "regularized" -- that is, under the wing of modernist Rome.

    The FSSP was founded by a group of priests and seminarians (headed by Fr. Bisig) who left the SSPX following the 1988 Consecrations and "excommunications" that followed because they wanted to remain "in communion" with Rome. Their current Superior General is Fr. Berg.
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    Who is the FSSP?
    « Reply #3 on: March 01, 2013, 01:52:41 PM »
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    • They are still waiting for a bishop...

    ...so they have to rely on the local bishop for any confirmations and such.

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    Offline ServusSpiritusSancti

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    Who is the FSSP?
    « Reply #4 on: March 01, 2013, 01:53:23 PM »
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    They are still waiting for a bishop...

    ...so they have to rely on the local bishop for any confirmations and such.



    I believe they were also promised a Cardinal, but never received one.
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    Who is the FSSP?
    « Reply #5 on: March 01, 2013, 02:05:11 PM »
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    • Welll the fssp (imo) is filled with generally well intentioned but ultimately compromised priests. Also many of their priests are ordained in th new rite. Th fssp are made up of priests who made a deal with rome in the eifhties.  Formerly sspx.

    From phine
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    « Reply #6 on: March 01, 2013, 02:06:32 PM »
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    They are still waiting for a bishop...

    ...so they have to rely on the local bishop for any confirmations and such.



    I believe they were also promised a Cardinal, but never received one.


    Good point.

    To add to this, it is not 2013 so 1988 is 25 years ago.

    Archbishop LeFebrvre was just asking for permission to consecrate one (1) bishop and New Rome was using administrative delaying tactics...

    New Rome was counting on Archbishop LeFebrvre passing away.

    If he had, there would be NO FSSP!

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    « Reply #7 on: March 01, 2013, 02:10:19 PM »
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    •  impossible to answer  what/who are fssp without offending the virtue of Charity...
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    Offline AnneCatherine

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    « Reply #8 on: March 01, 2013, 02:17:46 PM »
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    • Quote from: ServusSpiritusSancti
    Yes, the FSSP (Fraternity of St. Peter) is a Traditional group that is "regularized" -- that is, under the wing of modernist Rome.

    The FSSP was founded by a group of priests and seminarians (headed by Fr. Bisig) who left the SSPX following the 1988 Consecrations and "excommunications" that followed because they wanted to remain "in communion" with Rome. Their current Superior General is Fr. Berg.


    What is your impression?  I see some people at CathInfo accept the N.O. while others don't.  One has a sig. about being in union with Rome... I just want to hear what people think.
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    Offline ServusSpiritusSancti

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    « Reply #9 on: March 01, 2013, 02:21:16 PM »
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    Yes, the FSSP (Fraternity of St. Peter) is a Traditional group that is "regularized" -- that is, under the wing of modernist Rome.

    The FSSP was founded by a group of priests and seminarians (headed by Fr. Bisig) who left the SSPX following the 1988 Consecrations and "excommunications" that followed because they wanted to remain "in communion" with Rome. Their current Superior General is Fr. Berg.


    What is your impression?  I see some people at CathInfo accept the N.O. while others don't.  One has a sig. about being in union with Rome... I just want to hear what people think.


    Very few people here like the NO. I'm aware of one, maybe two or three active posters who do.

    Anyway, I think the FSSP does a lot of good, and has some good priests. Unfortunately, their mindset is a bit liberal. They never criticize the wrongful actions of the conciliar church, they only speak of the "good" it does.
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    « Reply #10 on: March 01, 2013, 02:21:26 PM »
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    Yes, the FSSP (Fraternity of St. Peter) is a Traditional group that is "regularized" -- that is, under the wing of modernist Rome.

    The FSSP was founded by a group of priests and seminarians (headed by Fr. Bisig) who left the SSPX following the 1988 Consecrations and "excommunications" that followed because they wanted to remain "in communion" with Rome. Their current Superior General is Fr. Berg.


    What is your impression?  I see some people at CathInfo accept the N.O. while others don't.  One has a sig. about being in union with Rome... I just want to hear what people think.


    Ask yourself what "being in union with Rome" means?

    Who in his right mind would have a problem with the edicts coming out of the Vatican if Pope Leo XIII was the pope?

    People keep acting like it's a game of baseball where the pope gets a 100 swings at the bat before he's declared out.  

    Can anyone point to something written by Leo XIII or Pius IX that seemed "half-heretical" the way they can point to dozens of things written by the post-Vatican II concilliar popes?

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    Offline AnneCatherine

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    « Reply #11 on: March 01, 2013, 02:21:55 PM »
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    impossible to answer  what/who are fssp without offending the virtue of Charity...


    While I really admire this answer (!), would it be possible to give any mere facts?
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    « Reply #12 on: March 01, 2013, 02:22:02 PM »
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    Welll the fssp (imo) is filled with generally well intentioned but ultimately compromised priests. Also many of their priests are ordained in th new rite. Th fssp are made up of priests who made a deal with rome in the eifhties.  Formerly sspx.

    From phine


    FSSP priests are not ordained  in the new  Novus Ordo rite, but always in the Tridentine rite, though the bishops ordaining them are mostly always  consecrated in the Novus Ordo. Maybe that was what you originally  meant.
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    Offline ServusSpiritusSancti

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    « Reply #13 on: March 01, 2013, 02:23:45 PM »
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    Can anyone point to something written by Leo XIII or Pius IX that seemed "half-heretical" the way they can point to dozens of things written by the post-Vatican II concilliar popes?


    Good point.

    Unless one is an extremist, I don't think anyone can find heresy in the statements of those Popes. Compare their writings to the writings of Paul VI, JPII, and Benedict, and it's like day and night.
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    « Reply #14 on: March 01, 2013, 02:24:32 PM »
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    •  mere facts... they have compromised...
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