Author Topic: Who here believes there was an imposter SR. Lucy??? (Read 4380 times)

curiouscatholic23 · « **on:** September 18, 2011, 01:32:41 PM »

I used to think the Dimond Brothers were crazy for saying that there was an "imposter Sr. Lucy," but after watching their video I am convinced that the real sister Lucy either died of natural causes, was murdered, or was locked up.

Why do I believe this?

-The Vatican II sister Lucy has obvious facial differences than the real one if you compare photographs

-The new one looks remarkably young in the picture she is said to be 60 years old.

-The new sister Lucy said some heretical things supporting Vatican II and the changes that were made.

-The new sister Lucy was a big fan of JP2

-MOST IMPORTANTLY the new siter Lucy actually kissed JP2's hand after receiving communion. This on tape and it is on the MHFM video. I just cannot believe that the real SR. Lucy, the one who was visited by Our Lady and received communion from St. Michael the Archangel himself, would receive Our lord in that way.

Anyone else came to the same conclusion?

If so how do you reconcile this with "FR" Gruner's apostolate, which often cites this Vatican II Sr. Lucy to support their arguments????

For the record I am not a theologian, I am just a 22 year old who has done some research and this is the only logical conclusion I can come up with regarding Fatima. Its impossible for Benedict XVI to consecrate Russia if he is not even the pope, due to his apostasy and heresey which is consistent with every pope since Pius XII who died in 1958.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #1 on:** September 27, 2011, 04:06:20 PM »

The Sister Lucia from the 1960s forward was an imposter. There's no doubt about it. I've seen that video from the Dimond Brothers about it, they raise some excellent points in it.

Anna1959 · « **Reply #2 on:** September 27, 2011, 04:15:54 PM »

I think the Dimond brothers are spot on, although at first I was wary due to comments I'd read about them. I decided to investigate for myself, they make some very good points.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #3 on:** September 27, 2011, 05:37:19 PM »

The Dimond Brothers are not the only ones.

If you search the site of www.traditioninaction.org, there are many articles
on the pros and cons on the subject of the 2 Sister Lucys. It is astounding
on the research that already been done that proves the case.

Arborman · « **Reply #4 on:** September 27, 2011, 05:39:19 PM »

Yes. I think there was an imposter Sr Lucy.

Gregory I · « **Reply #5 on:** September 27, 2011, 06:21:50 PM »

Duh! lol.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #6 on:** September 27, 2011, 07:01:56 PM »

Photos and Facts of the 2 Sister Lucys on the TIA.org site:

http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/g12htArt2_TwoSisterLucys.htm

St Jude Thaddeus · « **Reply #7 on:** September 27, 2011, 08:41:43 PM »

I have to admit that I'm susceptible to the "2 Sr. Lucy's" argument. Anyway you slice it and dice it, those women just don't look the same. Certain changes happen in a person's face over time, such as the skin sagging and the nose becoming more downturned as the cartilage sags, but others don't.

The eyes, chin, mouth, and head shape of the two women are just simply not the same.

If those two women are not the same, that means that high-ups in the Vatican covered up the real Sr. Lucy's death and hid that fact from the world for four decades. Even more sinisterly, they may have even had her murdered.

If she was murdered in order for the Vatican II shenaniganery to go through more unimpeded, and the Popes knew about this and have participated in the cover up...no other proof would be needed for me. All theological arguments would be out the window. Game over. Sedevacantism wins.

St Jude Thaddeus · « **Reply #8 on:** September 27, 2011, 08:45:51 PM »

I just followed RC53's TIA link and reviewed the pictures. (I first saw them on the Dimond Brothers' site.) I become more convinced they are two different people every time I look at them.

Would somebody like to prove me wrong on this? Or give some logical explanation for the changes in Sr. Lucy? Or explain how yes, she died, and yes, an imposter Sr. Lucy was put in her place, but this was done with good intentions and for the benefit of the Church? Or that somehow this could be done without the Popes knowing about it?

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #9 on:** September 27, 2011, 08:54:23 PM »

They probably put the imposter one in there to get more people to buy into Vatican II and the Novus Ordo.

The Carmelite monestary where she was a nun lists her death in 1949. Scroll down to #265 on the right side.

http://www.traditioninaction.org/Questions/WebSources/MonialesDefunctae.tpl

PartyIsOver221 · « **Reply #10 on:** September 27, 2011, 08:55:21 PM »

St Jude! Always a pleasure to see you posting here.

As for Sister Lucy , of course she was duped by VII time..the Dimonds have it all spot on.

St Jude Thaddeus · « **Reply #11 on:** September 27, 2011, 09:19:46 PM »

Quote from: PartyIsOver221

St Jude! Always a pleasure to see you posting here.

As for Sister Lucy , of course she was duped by VII time..the Dimonds have it all spot on.

The pleasure is mine.

The problem with the Dimonds is that they get so many things right and then some others very wrong. TIA I just don't get. I guess my blue-collar roots get in the way.

And yet, those pictures--and their obvious implications...

I'll be back tomorrow to see if anybody with the opposite opinion has taken a whack at it. Santo Subito, maybe?

And no, this would not be the only argument in favor of empty-Chairism. It's obvious that a new post-Conciliar church was ushered in and the Traditional Church given the boot, a process that actually started decades before the actual council. But to me, if this Sr. Lucy swap could be definitively proven, and proven done for sinister reasons, then that would be the proverbial last straw for me.

Gregory I · « **Reply #12 on:** September 27, 2011, 11:13:22 PM »

Have you watched the Dimond Brothers Video on this issue Jude? I think it says it all.

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #13 on:** September 28, 2011, 10:19:47 PM »

I don't know weather there were two Sr.Lucy's or not, but I do know for a fact that plenty of people in the NO establishment had absolutely no scruples about forging lots of letters they claimed were written by her.

Charles · « **Reply #14 on:** September 29, 2011, 10:34:52 AM »

Everything else is an about face, or fake, since VII. Why not Lucy ?