With all of our hysteria over terrorism it needs to be emphasized that the Islamic rebellion movement was caused by two Americans: Thomas Jefferson and Woodrow Wilson.

Thomas Jefferson, with his call of equality and liberty for all men, lead to not only the French Revolution and other anti-colonial movements, but the current Islamic rebellion now since Jefferson himself said that every government arises from the consent of the governed, something Arabs have taken to heart as they oppose the American Empire and Israeli occupation of Palestinian land. Jefferson's Declaration of Independence, needs to be examined not as a docuмent of awe-inspiring truth, but as war propaganda used to legitimize the American Revolution with the higher cause of liberty for all men.

Woodrow Wilson, with his calls of self-determination of all men, also caused it because Arabs and Islamic peoples take that to heart as well, as they wish to rule themselves and to control their own destinies.

Finally it needs to be emphasized, that we consider 9/11 an act of evil, while Al Qaeda saw it as a legitimate target since we ignored their bombings of military and political targets. The same could be said of our bombings of Tokyo, Nagasaki, Hiroshima, and Dresden, all sanctified by us as a legitimate act of war, though considered by Germans and Japenese terrorism, and it was indeed war terror.

With all of our hysteria over terrorism it needs to be emphasized that the Islamic rebellion movement was caused by two Americans: Thomas Jefferson and Woodrow Wilson.

Thomas Jefferson, with his call of equality and liberty for all men, lead to not only the French Revolution and other anti-colonial movements, but the current Islamic rebellion now since Jefferson himself said that every government arises from the consent of the governed, something Arabs have taken to heart as they oppose the American Empire and Israeli occupation of Palestinian land. Jefferson's Declaration of Independence, needs to be examined not as a docuмent of awe-inspiring truth, but as war propaganda used to legitimize the American Revolution with the higher cause of liberty for all men.

Woodrow Wilson, with his calls of self-determination of all men, also caused it because Arabs and Islamic peoples take that to heart as well, as they wish to rule themselves and to control their own destinies.

Finally it needs to be emphasized, that we consider 9/11 an act of evil, while Al Qaeda saw it as a legitimate target since we ignored their bombings of military and political targets. The same could be said of our bombings of Tokyo, Nagasaki, Hiroshima, and Dresden, all sanctified by us as a legitimate act of war, though considered by Germans and Japenese terrorism, and it was indeed war terror.

Extremely interesting observations Traditional Guy 20.  As an indigenous person who has devoted about 30+ years to fight the colonial (and neo-colonial) impacts on indigenous communities, I think it is important to understand and acknowledge the reality and injustice of colonialism.  

I support statehood for the Palestinians in a peaceful co-existence with the State of Israel as called for by Pope Francis (and I imagine other popes).  I worry though about extremism in Muslim, Jєωιѕн and Christian positions and those will always exist but we must resist them and hopefully keep them in a position of minority.  

You are right in arguing that the Muslims are fighting for what they perceive as justice and as positions consistent with their belief and interpretation of the Qu'aran.  I appreciated that perspective.

All societies (even Ukraine now) have to find ways of balancing rights for those who are impacted by the state in negative ways and sometimes that means the colonial hangovers of current states, even Canada and the United States.

I still believe Jefferson and Wilson can be interpreted in a  more kinder light than war mongers as I don't believe that; they simply tried to address the issues of their time and place (context) and none of us can really see the long-term impacts of what we hold to be true.

Take care

Trickster
Bruce Ferguson