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White House: "they will not be welcome in this country"
« on: July 16, 2014, 02:18:23 AM »
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    WASHINGTON/TEGUCIGALPA (Reuters) - The White House said on Tuesday that Central Americans trying to cross the U.S. border should know "they will not be welcome to this country," a day after the United States deported a planeload of women and children to Honduras.

    A charter flight on Monday from New Mexico to San Pedro Sula, the city with the highest murder rate in the world, transported 17 Honduran women, as well as 12 girls and nine boys between the ages of 18 months and 15 years.


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    The return of the Hondurans could help reassure Republicans that Obama is serious about controlling the frontier as he tries to persuade Congress to approve an emergency request for $3.7 billion to bolster border security and speed up deportations.


    Finally they get the point- deport these sponges.


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    White House: "they will not be welcome in this country"
    « Reply #1 on: July 16, 2014, 02:23:09 AM »
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  • BTW- blame Obama all you want, he has been the hardest against illegal aliens in decades despite how hard republicans try to re-write history.

    Technology wise the US govt has the ability to block hiring of illegal aliens from employment- it was a Bush policy that allowed employers to do it on a voluntary basis. An across the board mandate along with heavy fines and prison sentences would go along way to ending this problem and creating a safer society.



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    White House: "they will not be welcome in this country"
    « Reply #2 on: July 16, 2014, 02:41:23 AM »
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    Isn't it wonderful to have such a courageous president who defends our borders and keeps drug and human trafficking under control so well?  If it were not for the reliable and consistent efforts of the current administration, hey, we might have been seeing something like this, for crying out loud:







    The True Threat
    From Illegal Aliens


    Think you've got the whole illegal immigrant problem figured out? GUESS AGAIN!



        "We have an aging white America... They are dying... We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him."
        -- Jose Angel Gutierrez, professor, University of Texas, Arlington and founder of the La Raza Unida political party

        "...We're here today to show L.A., show the minority people here, the Anglo-Saxons, that we are here, the majority, we're here to stay. We do the work in this city, we take care of the spoiled brat children... We're here in Westwood... to show white Anglo-Saxon Protestant L.A., the few of you who remain, that we are the majority, and we claim this land as ours, it's always been ours, and we're still here, and none of the talk about deporting."
        -- Fabian Nunez, California assemblyman

        "The American Southwest seems to be slowly returning to the jurisdiction of Mexico without firing a single shot."
        -- The Excelsior, the national newspaper of Mexico

        "Because you know what? It's not enough to elect Latino leadership. If they're supporting legislation that denies the undocuмented driver's license, they don't belong in office, friends!"
        -- Antonio Villaraigosa, Mayor of Los Angeles

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    White House: "they will not be welcome in this country"
    « Reply #3 on: July 16, 2014, 03:25:23 AM »
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  • Yesterday Pope Francis sent a message to the organisers, speakers and participants in the “Mexico/Holy See Colloquium on Migration and Development”, which was read during the inaugural session of the event by Cardinal Secretary of State Pietro Parolin. In the text, the Pontiff urges the international community to promote the adoption of new forms of legal and safe migration and called for protection and a suitable reception for the many children who migrate cross the border with the United States unaccompanied. He also highlights the need for policies to inform potential migrants of the dangers of such a journey and above all, for initiatives to promote development in their countries of origin.


    “Globalisation is a phenomenon that challenges us, especially in one of its principal manifestations which is emigration. It is one of the 'signs' of this time that we live in and that brings us back to the words of Jesus, 'Why do you not know how to interpret the present time?'. Despite the large influx of migrants present in all continents and in almost all countries, migration is still seen as an emergency, or as a circuмstantial and sporadic fact, while instead it has now become a hallmark of our society and a challenge.


    “It is a phenomenon that carries with it great promise and many challenges. Many people forced to emigrate suffer, and often, die tragically; many of their rights are violated, they are obliged to separate from their families and, unfortunately, continue to be the subject of racist and xenophobic attitudes.


    “Faced with this situation, I repeat what I have affirmed in this year’s Message for the World Day of Migrants and Refugees: 'A change of attitude towards migrants and refugees is needed on the part of everyone, moving away from attitudes of defensiveness and fear, indifference and marginalisation – all typical of a throwaway culture – towards attitudes based on a culture of encounter, the only culture capable of building a better, more just and fraternal world'.

    “I would also like to draw attention to the tens of thousands of children who migrate alone, unaccompanied, to escape poverty and violence: This is a category of migrants from Central America and Mexico itself who cross the border with the United States under extreme conditions and in pursuit of a hope that in most cases turns out to be vain. They are increasing day by day. This humanitarian emergency requires, as a first urgent measure, these children be welcomed and protected. These measures, however, will not be sufficient, unless they are accompanied by policies that inform people about the dangers of such a journey and, above all, that promote development in their countries of origin. Finally, this challenge demands the attention of the entire international community so that new forms of legal and secure migration may be adopted.


    “I wish every success to the laudable initiative of the Mexican government’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs in arranging a colloquium of study and reflection on the great challenge of migration and cordially impart my Apostolic Blessing to all those present”.

    http://www.visnews-en.blogspot.com/2014/07/the-pope-calls-for-urgent-intervention.html

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    « Reply #4 on: July 16, 2014, 03:45:00 AM »
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    In the text, the Pontiff urges the international community to promote the adoption of new forms of legal and safe migration and called for protection and a suitable reception for the many children who migrate cross the border with the United States


    Who is he to judge ?

    Where was his opinion during all those years Argentina had a murderous military dictatorship ? You can find quotes of him supporting the invasion of the Falkland Islands.

    He cannot even do his own job trying to fix the dysfunctional Church. This is probably what this is all about- blowing smoke.  


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    « Reply #5 on: July 16, 2014, 04:06:16 AM »
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  • The Vatican Secretary of State has affirmed that every human being, for the very fact of being a person, possesses a dignity that must be treated with the utmost respect.


    During a visit by Cardinal Secretary of State Pietro Parolin to Mexico, he made these remarks at a meeting yesterday dedicated to “international migration and development."

    The meeting also was attended also by the foreign ministers of Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala.

    The following are extensive extracts from his address, given in Spanish. (D.C.L.)

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    “The great contribution of Christianity to humanity, then, with the maturing of the times, will be recognised for the enlightenment that universal fraternity is a political category. Reason enlightened by faith joyfully shows that the human family are all children of the same Father. ... In a radical way, Christianity has stated from the very beginning that we are all free, we are all equal, we are all brothers. As a result, the dignity of the person derives not from their economic situation, political affiliation, level of education, immigration status or religious belief. Every human being, for the very fact of being a person, possesses a dignity that deserves to be treated with the utmost respect.

    “Every day we receive further news of the huge number of people in the world who are forced to leave behind their homeland on account of tragic situations of suffering and pain. The causes are always the same: violation of the most elementary human rights, violence, lack of security, wars, unemployment and poverty. … In their attempt to arrive in a promised land where it is possible to lead a dignified life, thousands of people experience hunger, humiliation, violations of their dignity, sometimes torture, and some die amid the indifference of many. It is astonishing to see that, in the twenty-first century, there are victims of human trafficking, forced to work in conditions of semi-slavery or sɛҳuąƖly abused; there are those who fall into the clutches of criminal bands who operate at a transnational level, often with impunity on account of corruption and certain collusion. The issue before us today, human mobility in today's world, is entrenched in this world of pain to which no-one can remain indifferent, especially the Church. It is the greatest movement of people, including entire populations, of all time.

    “I think I can say with reason that in our globalised world, progress is not achieved only with a greater flow of capital, goods and information. An increase in the commercial and financial exchange between nations does not automatically lead to an improvement in the living standards of the population, nor does it automatically generate more wealth. In this regard, we note that nations, especially those that are more economically and socially advanced, owe their development largely to migrants. ... Those societies in which legal immigrants are not openly welcomed, but are instead treated with prejudice, as dangerous or harmful subjects, show themselves to be weak and unprepared for the challenges of the coming decades. By contrast, those that are able to see newcomers as generators of wealth, especially of a human and cultural nature, therefore know how to appropriately welcome them; those societies that make consistent efforts to integrate immigrants, offer an unequivocal message of solidity and guarantees to the entire international community, which can generate further progress.

    “It is certain that human mobility and its impact on development are two of the most complex social phenomena, difficult to resolve without a general spirit of trust. On the one hand, immigrants must seek to integrate in the country that receives them, respecting its laws and national identity. On the other, the State also has the duty of defending its borders, without ever forgetting the importance of respect for human righs and the duty of solidarity. It is clear that the phenomenon of migration cannot be resolved solely by legislative measures or by adopting public policies, good though they may be, and far less so solely through the deployment of the forces of security and order. The solution to the problem of migration requires a profound cultural and social conversion that enables a closed culture to transform into a 'culture of welcome and encounter.'

    “In this context, the Church has always been, and will continue to be, a loyal collaborator. ... By definition, being Catholic means being universal and transnational. Its message is not confined to the private lives of the faithful, but instead seeks conversion, expanding and reaching towards paths of culture and social justice, since it is not possible to define oneself as Christian and then turn one's back on justice and fraternity, also with non-believers.Furthermore, the Holy See, the central government of the universal Church, is a subject with full sovereignty in international law and has full legal personality. ... Aided by Pontifical Representatives, the Holy See participates in the most varied political forums with the aim of ensuring that universal human rights are fully protected with respect for the ethical and moral principles that shape social life. The Church will always support, at national and international level, any initiative for the adoption of joint policies.

    “In relation to the phenomenon of migration, we urgently need to overcome atavistic fears and to establish common strategies at sub-regional, regional and worldwide levels to include all sectors of society. Let us think, for example, of the United States of America, whose administration has in recent weeks published data referring to the migratory flow of children who cross borders unaccompanied by adults. The number grows exponentially day by day. Whether they are journeying because of poverty, violence or in the hope of reuniting with families on the other side of the border, it is urgent to protect and help them, as their weakness is greater and, defenceless, they are vulnerable to all forms of abuse and misfortune. Politics is the art of the possible. Let us make possible what seems impossible; let us be ambitious in facing up to challenges. Let us not be discouraged by apparent failures.”

    http://www.zenit.org/en/articles/cardinal-parolin-affirms-respect-for-the-human-person-is-not-dependent-on-immigration-status

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    « Reply #6 on: July 16, 2014, 11:18:36 AM »
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  • Migration policies of nations are none of the Pope's business.

    The United States has just laws and jurisdiction.

    There is a process that one must follow legally to come to the United States. These people jumping line and coming here are stealing the dreams of those who choose to do so legally.

    If the Pope is so concerned he should start charting ships to travel across the Atlantic and bring these sponges to Rome where he can provide them with all the social services they could ever dream of on his dime.

    This social justice Pope is destroying the Church- he is basically telling people it is okay to lie cheat and steal to get whatever they want- the Church through his lips is empowering them to steal from others.

    My own diocese provides legal services to fight my government to these sponges- it is more like an organized crime outfit than a Church.

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    « Reply #7 on: July 16, 2014, 10:33:09 PM »
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    In the text, the Pontiff urges the international community to promote the adoption of new forms of legal and safe migration and called for protection and a suitable reception for the many children who migrate cross the border with the United States


    Who is he to judge ?

    Where was his opinion during all those years Argentina had a murderous military dictatorship ? You can find quotes of him supporting the invasion of the Falkland Islands.

    He cannot even do his own job trying to fix the dysfunctional Church. This is probably what this is all about- blowing smoke.  

    He is the pope.
    When he was in Argentina he maintained a prudential silence. He worked behind the scenes to help those who were being mistreated by the regime. The ownership of the Falkland Islands is still in dispute.  
     


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    « Reply #8 on: July 16, 2014, 10:37:32 PM »
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    Migration policies of nations are none of the Pope's business.

    The United States has just laws and jurisdiction.

    There is a process that one must follow legally to come to the United States. These people jumping line and coming here are stealing the dreams of those who choose to do so legally.

    If the Pope is so concerned he should start charting ships to travel across the Atlantic and bring these sponges to Rome where he can provide them with all the social services they could ever dream of on his dime.

    This social justice Pope is destroying the Church- he is basically telling people it is okay to lie cheat and steal to get whatever they want- the Church through his lips is empowering them to steal from others.

    My own diocese provides legal services to fight my government to these sponges- it is more like an organized crime outfit than a Church.

    Migration policies have a moral component to them. Objecdtive morality is the Pope's business. This is part of the social doctrine of the Catholic Church.

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    « Reply #9 on: July 16, 2014, 11:34:53 PM »
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    In the text, the Pontiff urges the international community to promote the adoption of new forms of legal and safe migration and called for protection and a suitable reception for the many children who migrate cross the border with the United States


    Who is he to judge ?

    Where was his opinion during all those years Argentina had a murderous military dictatorship ? You can find quotes of him supporting the invasion of the Falkland Islands.

    He cannot even do his own job trying to fix the dysfunctional Church. This is probably what this is all about- blowing smoke.  

    He is the pope.
    When he was in Argentina he maintained a prudential silence. He worked behind the scenes to help those who were being mistreated by the regime. The ownership of the Falkland Islands is still in dispute.  
     


    The United Kingdom has a $1 billion dollar airbase located on the island that says it is not in dispute.

    Here is some history and facts for you:

    The islands are located 300 miles away from Argentina.
    The first human beings to ever step foot on the islands were British sailors.
    The first settlement was English.
    Argentina had a colony there over 100 years ago. The Argentine settlers killed their own governor and then the United States Navy expelled them back to the Argentine mainland.
    Since then the islands have been a British colony with the current descendants wanting to remain British.

    Argentina decided to invade the islands in the early 1980s with around 20000 troops against 60 British Marines. The islands fell but in a bloody war the British took them back.

    Argentina decided in the early 80s the question would be answered by war- England won, end of story.

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    « Reply #10 on: July 17, 2014, 12:42:16 AM »
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    In the text, the Pontiff urges the international community to promote the adoption of new forms of legal and safe migration and called for protection and a suitable reception for the many children who migrate cross the border with the United States


    Who is he to judge ?

    Where was his opinion during all those years Argentina had a murderous military dictatorship ? You can find quotes of him supporting the invasion of the Falkland Islands.

    He cannot even do his own job trying to fix the dysfunctional Church. This is probably what this is all about- blowing smoke.  

    He is the pope.
    When he was in Argentina he maintained a prudential silence. He worked behind the scenes to help those who were being mistreated by the regime. The ownership of the Falkland Islands is still in dispute.  
     


    The United Kingdom has a $1 billion dollar airbase located on the island that says it is not in dispute.

    Here is some history and facts for you:

    The islands are located 300 miles away from Argentina.
    The first human beings to ever step foot on the islands were British sailors.
    The first settlement was English.
    Argentina had a colony there over 100 years ago. The Argentine settlers killed their own governor and then the United States Navy expelled them back to the Argentine mainland.
    Since then the islands have been a British colony with the current descendants wanting to remain British.

    Argentina decided to invade the islands in the early 1980s with around 20000 troops against 60 British Marines. The islands fell but in a bloody war the British took them back.

    Argentina decided in the early 80s the question would be answered by war- England won, end of story.

    For now.
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    « Reply #11 on: July 17, 2014, 10:48:34 AM »
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  • Ironically poche, guess who is Argentina's largest trade partner ?

    It is England. England has the ability with a stroke of the pin to destroy the Argentine economy. What little of it exists.

    In 1982 two UK nuclear powered submarines chased the Argentine fleets back into their ports and kept them there.



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    White House: "they will not be welcome in this country"
    « Reply #12 on: July 17, 2014, 02:17:47 PM »
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  • These illegal aliens are human beings.   And they are mostly
    Catholic.   And don't forget September 11 , 2001 & the boston marathon
    Bombings. They weren't Hispanic.   And they weren't Christian.
    And around the world Christians are being attacked in their churches nuns raped and
    Beaten.   Women and children raped and murdered and Catholic priests behead  


    Our coward priests and bishops wouldn't even fight for the Latin.
    Mass.   Then many priests and bishops were betraying God when they pushed and supported
    ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ rights when even the Orthodox Jєωs and Protestants were fighting for marriage between man and woman. Then true herectics and schismatics sold off church property who hate cross and even
    Removed crosses from churches.  

    We have a bishop who wanted to be pope praise a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ
    Athlete.  gαy and lesbian parishes popping up everywhere.  

    Many of These independent churches are being operated by perverts and co artist too.

    And many of the faithful are in denial and are blind to sin.

    On here many talk like sedevacantists. When we should be flooding Rome
    With letters and petitions.

    Too many armchair quarterbacks.  
    May God bless you and keep you

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    White House: "they will not be welcome in this country"
    « Reply #13 on: July 17, 2014, 02:48:38 PM »
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    These illegal aliens are human beings.   And they are mostly
    Catholic.   And don't forget September 11 , 2001 & the boston marathon
    Bombings. They weren't Hispanic.   And they weren't Christian.
    And around the world Christians are being attacked in their churches nuns raped and
    Beaten.   Women and children raped and murdered and Catholic priests behead  


    Our coward priests and bishops wouldn't even fight for the Latin.
    Mass.   Then many priests and bishops were betraying God when they pushed and supported
    ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ rights when even the Orthodox Jєωs and Protestants were fighting for marriage between man and woman. Then true herectics and schismatics sold off church property who hate cross and even
    Removed crosses from churches.  

    We have a bishop who wanted to be pope praise a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ
    Athlete.  gαy and lesbian parishes popping up everywhere.  

    Many of These independent churches are being operated by perverts and co artist too.

    And many of the faithful are in denial and are blind to sin.

    On here many talk like sedevacantists. When we should be flooding Rome
    With letters and petitions.

    Too many armchair quarterbacks.  


    You repeat this same crap all the time and it's not true. Most of the illegals are drug dealers, criminals, gang bangers, disease ridden and are the furthest thing from Catholic as you can get.


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    « Reply #14 on: July 17, 2014, 10:31:49 PM »
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    These illegal aliens are human beings.   And they are mostly
    Catholic.   And don't forget September 11 , 2001 & the boston marathon
    Bombings. They weren't Hispanic.   And they weren't Christian.
    And around the world Christians are being attacked in their churches nuns raped and
    Beaten.   Women and children raped and murdered and Catholic priests behead  


    Our coward priests and bishops wouldn't even fight for the Latin.
    Mass.   Then many priests and bishops were betraying God when they pushed and supported
    ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ rights when even the Orthodox Jєωs and Protestants were fighting for marriage between man and woman. Then true herectics and schismatics sold off church property who hate cross and even
    Removed crosses from churches.  

    We have a bishop who wanted to be pope praise a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ
    Athlete.  gαy and lesbian parishes popping up everywhere.  

    Many of These independent churches are being operated by perverts and co artist too.

    And many of the faithful are in denial and are blind to sin.

    On here many talk like sedevacantists. When we should be flooding Rome
    With letters and petitions.

    Too many armchair quarterbacks.  


    You repeat this same crap all the time and it's not true. Most of the illegals are drug dealers, criminals, gang bangers, disease ridden and are the furthest thing from Catholic as you can get.


    Then why do we see them at mass every Sunday? Why do we see long lines when the priest offers confessions in Spanish? How is it that that the classes for first communion in Spanish are overflowing?