I just read this on Fisheaters and the owner is clearly not going to allow certain OBVIOUS things to be said, so I thought I would post it here:

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/details_of_possible_pius_xii_miracle_emerge/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+catholicnewsagency/dailynews+

Details of possible Pius XII miracle emerge

"Rome, Italy, Jan 19, 2010 / 12:21 pm (CNA).- Some details of the case under investigation regarding a possible miracle attributed to Venerable Pope Pius XII have been made public. The story features not just one former Pontiff, but two.

On Tuesday morning, Vatican journalist Andrea Tornielli published an article in Il Giornale describing at length the situation which "mysteriously involves" John Paul II.

Tornielli reported that this case was brought to the attention of Benedict XVI shortly before he approved a measure on Dec. 19, 2009 venerating Pope Pius XII's life of "heroic virtue," whose cause had been on-hold for the previous two years.

In 2005, a teacher of 31 years of age was expecting her third child in the city of Castellammare di Stabia. She began to have strong pains, which after many tests and a biopsy, signaled the presence of Burkitt's lymphoma. The condition is typified by swollen lymph nodes, often starting in the abdominal region, and the cancer can spread to bone marrow and spinal fluid. Not only was her health in danger, but that of her unborn child was also threatened.

The woman's husband first prayed for the intercession Pope John Paul II, who was then only recently buried in the crypt of St. Peter's. It wasn't long before the Holy Father appeared to the woman's husband in a dream. The spouse described to Tornielli what he saw that night, "He had a serious face. He said to me, 'I can't do anything, you must pray to this other priest...' He showed me the image of a thin, tall, lean priest. I didn't recognize him; I didn't know who he might be."

Several days passed before he, "by chance," came across a picture of Pope Pius XII in a magazine and recognized him as the man John Paul II had shown him in the dream.

The man wasted no time in bombarding Pius XII with prayers for his wife's healing and following her very first treatments she was declared free of the cancer, the tumor had disappeared. In fact, she was cured so quickly that her doctors pondered the notion that they may have originally misdiagnosed the pathology.

The tests and charts were reconsulted and the initial diagnosis was confirmed.

In the absence of the tumor, she had her baby and returned to work. After some time had gone by, she decided to contact the Vatican regarding her experience.

A local news source, the Sorrento & Dintorni, ran an article on Sunday offering a basic story of the possible miracle and the diocesan response to it. According to their report, a Tribunal has been organized by Archbishop Felice Cece of Sorrento-Castellammare to determine the nature of the occurrence and whether it will move on to the Vatican.

According to Tornielli, if they decide positively, the case will be sent on to Congregation for the Causes of Saints for investigation by a team of doctors to declare whether the event was explicable by natural means. If there is no explanation found for the healing, theologians from the Congregation will debate the issue. Only with their "go-ahead" can a dossier subsequently reach the hands of Pope Benedict XVI for official recognition.

Cardinal Jose Saraiva Martins, Prefect Emeritus of the Congregation for the Causes of Saints, told CNA on Monday that there is no telling how much time the entire process might take.

He also mentioned that if a case arrives to the Congregation for the Causes of Saints it is examined in chronological order based on the date of arrival and there are thousands of cases pending review.

However, he added, "exceptions might be made for Popes, etc."

There was no mention in Tornielli's report of where the lymphoma had manifested itself in the woman's body. According to the National Institute of Health, Burkitt's lymphoma is treatable and more than half of those diagnosed with the cancer are cured with intensive chemotherapy."

John Paul II was said to have a devotion to Mary, so it might be possible that he's in Purgatory; a devotion to Mary will save the most wicked of sinners.

What a load that is.  Non Catholics do not go to Purgatory.

Well he was probably Baptized as a child and could have repented BUT one thing I can strongly empathize with the Dimonds on is was their thinking that he was the actual Antichrist. The adoration he inspired in some people was frightening and demonic. The world seems a much less messed up place without him.

John Paul II was said to have a devotion to Mary, so it might be possible that he's in Purgatory; a devotion to Mary will save the most wicked of sinners.

I wonder did he subscribe to the heresy that first began in arabia around the third century that the Blessed Mother was actually Divine. I have come across four Novus Ordoites who believed this.

http://www.religioperennis.org/docuмents/cutsinger/virgin.pdf

Quote from: Summa, II, II, 83. 11.

Reply to Objection 3. Those who are in Purgatory though they are above us on account of their impeccability, yet they are below us as to the pains which they suffer: and in this respect they are not in a condition to pray, but rather in a condition that requires us to pray for them.

Thanks for posting this - I retract my previously expressed view on this issue in order to conform myself with St Thomas Aquinas.

Clovis, while what you say about JP2 is theologically tenable (that he may have repented of his schism, heresy and apostasy and been saved) it is only just slightly less absurd to think this actually happened, than it is to think that as the rope tightened around Judas' neck, he repented of killing himself (though we already know from the testimony of God that Judas is in hell - "the son of perdition," "better had he never been born," etc.).

It's completely unlawful to pray to JP2, since it's a moral certainty that he died outside the Church and was a BRUTAL enemy of the Church, of God and of His Holy mother.

Arius was also Baptized but in the Bzyantine liturgical tradition there are references to him being in hell so I accept that along with Judas we can say with a good deal of certainity that Arius was damned. However we dont have quite that much certainity in the case of JP II...Though instinctively I could not bring myself to pray for him and as I thought my post would have made clear it was pretty obvious that he was a demonic figure, a forerunner of the Antichrist.

the general idea is that Mary takes care of the sinner at the hour of his death. One hour can change the fate of how one spends an eternity. "One hour could have given us what an eternity cannot." Damned souls.

John Paul II, if he had a true devotion to Mary as it is often said by many, would have been given this privilege of her assistance at the hour of his death, and would have been saved.