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Offline Zeitun

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« on: July 25, 2013, 11:34:33 PM »
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    • Do they kiss each other's rings?
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    Offline Frances

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    « Reply #1 on: July 26, 2013, 03:55:21 AM »
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    •  :confused1:What a strange question!  I'll try and find out, okay?  I don't know that I've ever seen two bishops in the same place.  They tend to be solitary creatures, except at events like electing Popes, etc., to which I don't get invited!   :incense: :incense:
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    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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    « Reply #2 on: July 26, 2013, 07:10:05 AM »
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    • So when we greet bishop Williamson we should kiss his ring and address him as ?

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    « Reply #3 on: July 26, 2013, 10:32:17 AM »
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    • They just have a serious talk
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    « Reply #4 on: July 26, 2013, 10:33:51 AM »
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    • I really don't think so.  The kissing of the ring is a sign of honor and submission to an authority, which bishops do not have over each other.  Maybe if a bishop meets an archbishop, the bishop might kiss the archbishop's ring.
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    « Reply #5 on: July 26, 2013, 10:37:37 AM »
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    So when we greet bishop Williamson we should kiss his ring and address him as ?



    As I am an Englishman, I would say 'My Lord Bishop' or 'Your Grace' but I think the American form is 'Your Excellency'. Correct me if I am wrong.
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    « Reply #6 on: July 26, 2013, 10:43:06 AM »
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    So when we greet bishop Williamson we should kiss his ring and address him as ?

    I have heard him addressed as :  "Your Excellency" and "Your Lordship".

    Marsha
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    « Reply #7 on: July 26, 2013, 10:43:45 AM »
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    • According to this photo, they shake hands.
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    « Reply #8 on: July 26, 2013, 10:44:14 AM »
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    So when we greet bishop Williamson we should kiss his ring and address him as ?

    I have heard him addressed as :  "Your Excellency" and "Your Lordship".

    Marsha


    A bishop may also be simply addressed as 'Bishop.'
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    « Reply #9 on: July 26, 2013, 10:47:55 AM »
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    • A Layman kissing the ring of Cardinal Meyer in 1963.
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    « Reply #10 on: July 26, 2013, 11:22:19 AM »
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    So when we greet bishop Williamson we should kiss his ring and address him as ?



    As I am an Englishman, I would say 'My Lord Bishop' or 'Your Grace' but I think the American form is 'Your Excellency'. Correct me if I am wrong.


    I was under the impression that within the Commonwealth, a bishop is addressed as "My Lord," and an archbishop is address as "Your Grace."  Perhaps I am mistaken.

    In any event, in the United States, all Latin-rite bishops and archbishops are addressed as "Your Excellency," except for those who are also Cardinals, in which case they are addressed as "Your Eminence."
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    « Reply #11 on: July 26, 2013, 01:04:42 PM »
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    • Just an aside:  A Cardinal is considered a prince of the Church,  is a Bishop considered of some rank?

    Marsha
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    « Reply #12 on: July 26, 2013, 07:42:26 PM »
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    Just an aside:  A Cardinal is considered a prince of the Church,  is a Bishop considered of some rank?

    Marsha


    Collectively, the bishops are successors to the Apostles.  Is this what you mean?
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    « Reply #13 on: July 26, 2013, 10:05:19 PM »
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    So when we greet bishop Williamson we should kiss his ring and address him as ?



    Your Excellency or  My Lord.  The latter title is peculiar to the English.  
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    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

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    « Reply #14 on: July 26, 2013, 10:06:19 PM »
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    Do they kiss each other's rings?


    In my experience, Eastern rite bishops often do.  Lower ranking bishops certainly kiss the rings of higher ranking ones.  
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    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir
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