Author Topic: Whats with all the bowing??? (Read 2716 times)

Marlelar · « **on:** August 31, 2013, 03:51:47 PM »

Pope bows to the Queen of Jordan.
link to photo

It's disgraceful.

Marsha

Cantarella · « **Reply #1 on:** August 31, 2013, 04:14:49 PM »

:smash-pc:

Matto · « **Reply #2 on:** August 31, 2013, 04:15:28 PM »

Aren't people who visit the Pope supposed to kiss his shoe?

Cantarella · « **Reply #3 on:** August 31, 2013, 04:18:40 PM »

Another effort of our miserablist Pope to destroy every remnant of tradition, symbolism, and ceremony left in the Church, as well as his own dignity.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #4 on:** August 31, 2013, 04:21:10 PM »

Quote from: Matto

Aren't people who visit the Pope supposed to kiss his shoe?

He claims he doesn't want to be called pope, so what can another expect?

He is more honest than SSPX.

StCeciliasGirl · « **Reply #5 on:** August 31, 2013, 06:51:49 PM »

I don't get the bowing at the worldly things schtick he has going on. I saw a pic of him praying in a private moment (I think with BXVIEm) and his head wasn't bowed; I remember seeing the yellow teeth.

(Speaking of which: is it too "worldly" to drop your teeth in Efferdent occasionally?)

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #6 on:** August 31, 2013, 10:16:54 PM »

Quote from: MyrnaM

Quote from: Matto
Aren't people who visit the Pope supposed to kiss his shoe?

He claims he doesn't want to be called pope, so what can another expect?

He is more honest than SSPX.

Francis just want to be the Bishop of Rome.

He said on the day of his election on 3-13-13 that the Cardinals
came throughout the world to elect the Bishop of Rome.

Sigismund · « **Reply #7 on:** August 31, 2013, 10:26:27 PM »

Even if he doesn't care about the religious aspect, which of course he should, he still outranks her just in terms of royalty. He is a sovereign. She is a queen, but not a sovereign one. I am sure she knows that and was quite surprised at his bow.

Frances · « **Reply #8 on:** August 31, 2013, 10:26:47 PM »

:confused1:Kiss his shoe? I thought you kiss his ring, like one does a bishop. Has he spent a lot of time among Asians? There, bowing is the proper means of showing respect. Somehow, I do not think that is what is happening in all these publicity shots.

poche · « **Reply #9 on:** September 01, 2013, 05:02:06 AM »

It is a courtesy to her and a demonstration that it is better to renounce all that is vain in this world. It is a call for her conversion to the Catholic Faith.

On a sabbath Jesus went to dine
at the home of one of the leading Pharisees,
and the people there were observing him carefully.

He told a parable to those who had been invited,
noticing how they were choosing the places of honor at the table.
“When you are invited by someone to a wedding banquet,
do not recline at table in the place of honor.
A more distinguished guest than you may have been invited by him,
and the host who invited both of you may approach you and say,
‘Give your place to this man,’
and then you would proceed with embarrassment
to take the lowest place.
Rather, when you are invited,
go and take the lowest place
so that when the host comes to you he may say,
‘My friend, move up to a higher position.’
Then you will enjoy the esteem of your companions at the table.
For every one who exalts himself will be humbled,
but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”
Then he said to the host who invited him,
“When you hold a lunch or a dinner,
do not invite your friends or your brothers
or your relatives or your wealthy neighbors,
in case they may invite you back and you have repayment.
Rather, when you hold a banquet,
invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind;
blessed indeed will you be because of their inability to repay you.
For you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous.”

http://new.usccb.org/bible/readings/090113.cfm

Remember, it is better to choose the lower place in this life so that the higher place may be your in the next. He bows to her so that in the future she may bow before Jesus, present in the Blessed Sacrament.

TCat · « **Reply #10 on:** September 01, 2013, 06:13:24 AM »

All of these people doing the opposite of tradition for shock value
is just not shocking anymore.
Its the other way around now.
Now tradition is shocking and tradition is what peegs interest.
The church suffered the collapse in the 60s when it traded tradition for shock value and replaced its ranks with child molesters and homos and liberals and communists and freemasons.

But tradition is what gets people because it is the only shocking thing in a godless world, because people are amazed that someone has the bawls to stand up to the universe.

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #11 on:** September 01, 2013, 06:39:29 AM »

Quote from: poche

It is a courtesy to her and a demonstration that it is better to renounce all that is vain in this world. It is a call for her conversion to the Catholic Faith.

On a sabbath Jesus went to dine
at the home of one of the leading Pharisees,
and the people there were observing him carefully.

He told a parable to those who had been invited,
noticing how they were choosing the places of honor at the table.
“When you are invited by someone to a wedding banquet,
do not recline at table in the place of honor.
A more distinguished guest than you may have been invited by him,
and the host who invited both of you may approach you and say,
‘Give your place to this man,’
and then you would proceed with embarrassment
to take the lowest place.
Rather, when you are invited,
go and take the lowest place
so that when the host comes to you he may say,
‘My friend, move up to a higher position.’
Then you will enjoy the esteem of your companions at the table.
For every one who exalts himself will be humbled,
but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”
Then he said to the host who invited him,
“When you hold a lunch or a dinner,
do not invite your friends or your brothers
or your relatives or your wealthy neighbors,
in case they may invite you back and you have repayment.
Rather, when you hold a banquet,
invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind;
blessed indeed will you be because of their inability to repay you.
For you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous.”

http://new.usccb.org/bible/readings/090113.cfm

Remember, it is better to choose the lower place in this life so that the higher place may be your in the next. He bows to her so that in the future she may bow before Jesus, present in the Blessed Sacrament.

Tell us, what did Francis say to the Muslim Queen to aid her in conversion?

Croix de Fer · « **Reply #12 on:** September 01, 2013, 07:05:45 AM »

Bowing to an apostate is not humility, but the Conciliar apologetic herd would have you believe it is "humility". This behavior is showing reverence to an earthly creature that is void of the kingdom of Heaven. It is paying homage to a person who is not helping effect "on earth as it is in Heaven". Furthermore, here is a woman (the "queen" of Jordan) who would have nothing to do with the man to whom she is married, if he were not a "king" and worth perhaps billions of dollars. Christ never wanted anyone to bow before these false "kings" and "queens" who are consumed by mammon and power, and void of Christ. A simple smile and slight nod of the head, and/or shake of the hand, will suffice in showing respect and diplomacy to apostates who are heads of states, or anyone else. No bowing is necessary. When bowing, Francis is just perpetuating the illusion that earthly kingships void of Christ still matter, and the status quo therein is to be honored. This is a bad message to keep perpetuating. If Francis is going to bow before a royal head of state, then it should only be before a Catholic one, and vice versa. What is with these obvious nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr puppets that transcend parties and religion? Bush literally held hands with the Saudi king when walking together during visits; and Obomba bows to the same king ding-a-ling; now we have Francis bowing to a Muhammadan harlot of prestige; and Cameron recently refers to a rabbi as "my rabbi".

Marlelar · « **Reply #13 on:** September 01, 2013, 11:26:27 AM »

hmmm... the visible head of Christ's church on earth bowing to a Muslim woman. Now what message would that send to Muslim MEN? To those who are organizing the new Caliphate?

Marsha

Charlemagne · « **Reply #14 on:** September 01, 2013, 12:23:08 PM »

Quote from: RomanCatholic1953

Quote from: MyrnaM
Quote from: Matto
Aren't people who visit the Pope supposed to kiss his shoe?

He claims he doesn't want to be called pope, so what can another expect?

He is more honest than SSPX.

Francis just want to be the Bishop of Rome.

He said on the day of his election on 3-13-13 that the Cardinals
came throughout the world to elect the Bishop of Rome.

He needs to be ordained a priest first.