Anyone been to SSPX.org lately?

   Seems almost like a EWTN homepage sometimes, with all the Novus Ordo quotes in the "Pastor's Corner."

   Others have noticed the change in orientation in the Angelus, and other new policies since the Roman negotiations which tend to be "Rome-friendly" to a much higher degree than in the past in SSPX media outlets.

   Does Menzingen think this is not noticed?

  Anyone been to SSPX.org lately?

   Seems almost like a EWTN homepage sometimes, with all the Novus Ordo quotes in the "Pastor's Corner."

   Others have noticed the change in orientation in the Angelus, and other new policies since the Roman negotiations which tend to be "Rome-friendly" to a much higher degree than in the past in SSPX media outlets.

   Does Menzingen think this is not noticed?

FYI, there used to be a "Pastor's Corner" in our parish bulletin.  The same priest?

  Anyone been to SSPX.org lately?

   Seems almost like a EWTN homepage sometimes, with all the Novus Ordo quotes in the "Pastor's Corner."

   Others have noticed the change in orientation in the Angelus, and other new policies since the Roman negotiations which tend to be "Rome-friendly" to a much higher degree than in the past in SSPX media outlets.

   Does Menzingen think this is not noticed?

Sorry to butt in on the SSPX-bash-fest, but...

Novus Ordo quotes?

Pardon my ignorance, but WTH are you talking about?

I clicked it, expecting to see something wishy-washy or Novus Ordo like, but was sadly disappointed.

Please explain.

Quote from: Seraphim

  Anyone been to SSPX.org lately?

   Seems almost like a EWTN homepage sometimes, with all the Novus Ordo quotes in the "Pastor's Corner."

   Others have noticed the change in orientation in the Angelus, and other new policies since the Roman negotiations which tend to be "Rome-friendly" to a much higher degree than in the past in SSPX media outlets.

   Does Menzingen think this is not noticed?

They've changed their marketing model.  Women don't mind.

Tradition is dying.  Too many yuppies spoil the broth.

Women don't mind?
 :shocked:

"...women don't mind?..."

I STILL say PRAY FOR THEM, if for no other reason than the devil hates it. We are not in control; God is.

Pray to God with the confidence of a woman. We never take no for an answer.

Thank you for the clarification.

The NO's are busy holding hands and sharing coca-colas to stop, research, and think about the history of The SSPX, in particular, that of what ArchBishop Lefebvre
had to do to preserve the Church.

I worked in the "church" and did not know anything about the SSPX until around 1998 when we got our first computer at home. All was completely sanitized from my Diocese; at least, from where I 'haunted', if you will.

People don't know. They think "Christian Unity" is the peace of Christ.

We all know that Christ said He came to bring the sword, etc.

Good Shepherd Sunday: One Shepherd and One Fold.

Any deal is bad because it is being made with churchmen who seem/are untrustworthy and are at least material heretics. They could change their minds at any time and change the rules at any time for any reason.

Pray for the sheep who are lost because they do not follow their Shepherd's Voice and go downhill. Sheep do not know how to come back up by themselves. That's a fact.

 

Once in a while, perhaps once every six months or so, a trad should go visit a NO church just to be reminded how bad it really is.

The SSPX chapel in St. Louis every single woman and girl in the Chapel was not only wearing a very modest skirt but also a head scarf.  The mere sight of it alone is enough to bring tears of joy to my eyes.

If someone thinks the SSPX and the Novus Ordo are similar, it's because it's been way too long since they darkened the doorway to a NO church.

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In case no one has noticed over the last decade or so, The Vatican is being run by Freemasons and Apostates Jєωs and Communists, at the highest levels or highest level.
Many argue that Pope JO2 wa himself a Jєω.  He was certainly a public heretic.

That the SPPX is even courting this Judzaized Prostitute aka The Vatican is beyond unimaginable given what we see and all know now.


Bishop Williamson should be the SG of SPPX.


I cast a no vote of confidence for Fellay.

From AQ

Greetings, all ...

I just returned from Mass and I don't see this posted on the board anywhere so, maybe you heard it during your sermon; maybe not. The priest here presented it as public knowledge.

The priest here had been on retreat last week in Phoenix and said that Fr. Rostand told them the Vatican has offered the SSPX a Personal Prelature if he/they signed the Doctrinal Preamble. Bishop Fellay's latest response was that the preamble is too ambiguous and he could not sign it.

A response from the Vatican is expected "very soon". Could go either way, he said.

http://angelqueen.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=42026

My priest spoke of this same retreat at my sermon, but this is what he said.

"Bishop Fellay has been dealing with Rome for 12 years.  He is not blind, nor is his mislead.  We must have faith.  Do you not think that, as priests, we are all a bit anxious or excited about what is happening?  Yes.  But it would be unreasonable to believe that today we will have tradition and tomorrow we will abandon it.  We must continue to pray and wait without making rash judgments."  (This is not exact quotes, but best I can remember.)

I am finding it rather disconcerting that people here are just assuming that they know all the answers and that Bishop Fellay will just abandon everything for the sake of some false unity.  Do you really believe that Bishop Fellay will just agree to have the priests of the Society offer the New Mass or require them to be silent in addressing modernism?  Really?

I am only a newbie when it comes to tradition, so I couldn't possibly know how so many people suffered over the loss of tradition back in the 60s.  I couldn't possibly know how people suffered over having to hide in basements in the 70s or the utter disappoint they suffered in the 80s with Pope John Paul II and his "ecuмenical meetings", promises, and lies.  

I converted to Novus Ordo in the 90s with no knowledge of anything, but Our Lord saw fit to bring me right where I am today.  I am finding it really hard to justify condemning Bishop Fellay over speculations because some people think he has led the Society down some dark and dangerous modernist path.

Personally, I am worried.  I am nervous.  But I am still praying and trying to have faith.  I don't want to be like my friend who has just decided that the Society has caved and joined the Novus Ordo Circus.  Today he sits, all alone wallowing in his anger and frustration, completely cut off from the Sacraments.

This, it seems to me, is exactly what the devil wants!  

We will all know soon enough won't we, if Bishop Fellay signs some compromise agreement with Rome just to appease the modernists?  Why must we go on like this?

Ugh.