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Offline Trinity

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« on: October 20, 2007, 08:43:50 AM »
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  • between a person who denies what is going on in the world and one who sees it and acknowledges it, but does nothing about it?  In the final analysis, what difference do either of them make?
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    « Reply #1 on: October 21, 2007, 11:43:59 PM »
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  • The latter would at least be emotionally (perhaps spiritually) prepared for whatever the world throws at them.

    The former might become unstable when they wake up to see that the world as they know it doesn't exist.
    "I think that Catholicism, that's as sane as people can get."  - Jordan Peterson


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    « Reply #2 on: October 22, 2007, 08:36:12 AM »
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  • But what difference do they make in the here and now.  It is nice that their own lot is improved by seeing these things, but we aren't supposed to be here for our own good.  We are supposed to be here for God and neighbor.
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    « Reply #3 on: October 22, 2007, 08:38:25 AM »
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  • I'm doing a lot of things to prepare and equip my family for the constant changes going on in the world today.

    I'm using all my knowledge (including what I gain every day) to make sure my family is in the best position to deal with whatever is coming.

    I would love to help many other families -- and I am willing to spend hours teaching others who will listen -- but you know what? To most people out there (who NEED my knowledge, but just don't know it) I'm just a nut job. A paranoid. A whacko. You get the idea.

    If no one else will listen to me, then at least I can prepare my family. This issue has been brought up MANY times on various Peak Oil forums, etc.

    "Do I prepare just myself, or become an anti-war activist and try to wake people up and engage in various kinds of activity?"

    Often when they choose the latter they become frustrated, because NO ONE listens to them. They hold Peak Oil seminars at their local library, and no one shows up. They hold anti-war rallies, and they just get arrested (while Bush & co. laugh their heads off)
    etc.

    Let's face it -- most people are sheeple for a reason. They don't care, they're brainwashed by TV, etc.

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    « Reply #4 on: October 22, 2007, 01:17:22 PM »
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  • Everyone makes a "difference", whether they are good, evil, or 'indifferent'.

    Everyone is on a "side", whether they realize it or not.

    There is a storm brewing that no single man can alter in any significant way.  We must go through it, and it is in the storm itself that many will begin to do what God has been preparing them to do (whether known to them or not).  God speed to each of you in the days ahead.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."


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    « Reply #5 on: October 22, 2007, 03:12:08 PM »
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  • Yes, everyone makes a difference.  The vast majority today make a difference by standing for nothing, doing nothing, but going with the flow.  And since satan's little helpers work circles around God's little helpers, the flow is over the cliff.

    Agreed, Chant.  Preaching and teaching does nothing.  The info is there for those who want it, so it is a waste of time to keep piling it on.  This young man, star of Bella, went right to the heart of things while we oldsters quibble among ourselves.  He is touching hearts and making differences and we are spinning our wheels.  But that has always been the case, too.  The simple rise up and seize heaven while the learned bog down in their books.
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    « Reply #6 on: October 22, 2007, 03:34:38 PM »
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  •  Some people "do nothing" because they can't. This includes spouses and parents like chant, who have households to run, jobs to work and pretty much 0 time and money in-between, people who live in cloister walls, and probably a good many others.

    For instance, a priest's calling is to his priestly duties. His job is to give the sacraments, advice his sheep and preach to and educate them. His duty is NOT to go out and become a public figure, or get involved in politics. God will expect him to do precisely that which a priest does and is supposed to do, nothing more, nothing less.

    The same applies to most states of life. Most people get married, and have families and jobs and a lot of duties that leave them with virtually no time to rest, let alone battle freemasons in the media or organize "free tradition" rallies at the Vatican. Most people cannot go door to door or speak publicly about social, political or religious problems. The media, for one, would never allow it. But most of us simply, realistically can't.

    Then there are the singles. If anyone COULD it would be them. The unattached single person can work and has only themselves to think about (other than God, of course) for the most part. If there's to be any great speeches, rallies or other overt and drastic action, it will probably be done by either these, or by people who have neglected what God will make them answer for... the duties of their state in life.

    Finally, some people are not physically or mentally well. They are actually unable to do much more than care for themselves. The teen crowd needs to live a little longer to even know the real problems, and chances are there aren't too many glorious revolutionaries of justice and faith lurking about in old folks homes.

    The number of people who CAN and SHOULD "do something" (overt) ... is drastically cut down by the obligations of our state in life (which is what God will expect of us, and nothing more or less), and by our own personal situations and capabilities.

    I, for one, happen to be single. But my health is such that I can't hold a 4 hour (usually less) a day office job. The chances of me, or anyone like me "going out there and doing something" are pretty much nill. The real responsibility rests upon those in AUTHORITY... (wow, what a novel idea!) ... which means the leaders. They are the ones (for those who don't recognize them anymore) who have the POWER to "do something" ... The power difference between the average burger flipper at a fast food chain and, say... the politicians... is pretty stark. If they are evil, or don't feel like doing anything, then we are all pretty much up the creek without a paddle, because most of us can not effect world-changing level changes by making speeches, or phone calls to politicians who label us as "right-wing lunatics".

    It's very nice to sit and dream about each of us being able to change the world, but the reality is that it is very much in the hands of God, and those who are in positions of actual authority... whether or not they actually do anything with that power or want to.

    Finally, most of us must content ourselves with our rosaries, and with the very real truth that God is the one Who is in control here, not the politicians, not the sheep. Finally, nothing happens in this world without God's express permission... which means if it's going on, and it's bad, it's probably a kind of chastisement... and even if we could stop it, God would simply find another way to chastise us, because that's His right, and nobody can keep him from it.

    In the church, it boils down to what one wise bishop said... In so many words, he said, don't be too anxious for this crisis to pass. This world is a valley of tears, and we will never have total and lasting peace in this life. As soon as one crisis ends, another will come along. (Thus are the wages of sin...)

    We human beings don't have nearly the power we often like to think we do. Usually, the common man is best served fulfilling his personal duties. If every Christian were doing that, the world would be in a totally different state than it is today. That, in reality, is the one thing we CAN do, which WILL make a difference. Everything else is just the pious (but unrealistic) dreaming of people (however well intentioned and honorable) who are zealous for the truth.
    I renounce any and all of my former views against what the Church through Pope Leo XIII said, "This, then, is the teaching of the Catholic Church ...no one of the several forms of government is in itself condemned, inasmuch as none of them contains anythi

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    « Reply #7 on: October 22, 2007, 06:20:09 PM »
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  • Oy!  We'll see if it cuts any ice on judgment day.
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    « Reply #8 on: October 22, 2007, 07:23:50 PM »
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  •  -message deleted for reasons of charity-
    I renounce any and all of my former views against what the Church through Pope Leo XIII said, "This, then, is the teaching of the Catholic Church ...no one of the several forms of government is in itself condemned, inasmuch as none of them contains anythi

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    « Reply #9 on: October 23, 2007, 04:30:45 PM »
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