Author Topic: What's an Ultramontanist? (Read 822 times)

CampeadorShin · « **on:** March 01, 2007, 07:42:16 PM »

Anyone?

Kephapaulos · « **Reply #1 on:** March 01, 2007, 09:33:42 PM »

What we should Westerners should all be. :P

Interesting you bring this up, El Campy. I was thinking about the ultramontane movement a little bit recently I believe. Well, from what I gather, the ultramontane movement was around in the 1800s that was focused on restoring Altar and Throne across Europe to counter liberalism, since liberalism had been infecting Europe at that time, which it still is to this day, although it has spread throughout the whole world now as well.

Quo Vadis Petre · « **Reply #2 on:** March 01, 2007, 10:02:54 PM »

A term of derision against those who truly were loyal to the Catholic Church. I believe it meant literally "from the mountains."

Matthew · « **Reply #3 on:** March 01, 2007, 10:33:10 PM »

Ultra is "beyond", isn't it?

It refers to those "beyond the mountains", or, the Romans.

Matthew

CampeadorShin · « **Reply #4 on:** March 02, 2007, 02:44:26 PM »

cathman7 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 02, 2007, 02:51:29 PM »

From The Catholic Dictionary edited by Donald Attwater (republished by TAN):

Ultramontanism -

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(Lat., ultra, beyond; montes, the mountains). A term invented by the Gallicans to describe the doctrines and policies which upheld the full authority of the Holy See. With the noun and adjective ultramontane it was used down to the end of the 19th century (especially at the time of the Vatican Council), and still is sometimes, usually by non-Catholic controversialists, to describe a real or supposed exaggeration of papal prerogatives and those who supported them. In the middle ages ultramontane was used at Rome with an opposite (geographical) meaning, for anyone domiciled north of the Alps; cf., Cisalpine Club.

CampeadorShin · « **Reply #6 on:** March 04, 2007, 02:31:55 PM »

I'm still not too sure about that facebook group.

Kephapaulos · « **Reply #7 on:** March 04, 2007, 04:18:51 PM »

Regardless, El Campy, I would still claim to be an ultramontanist myself. :judge: :chef:

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Author Topic: What&#039;s an Ultramontanist? (Read 822 times)

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