if you have to ask this and know not the difference, then we the Fantasitic Four ( :roll-laugh2:) have little else we can likely offer or say....

"Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? "

Groan!  I peeked.  If that is the case, why was my thread misunderstood?  I used the words several different ways, and people seemed to be reading them and still coming up with a meaning I never intended.  

I realize this is a discussion forum.  I have also noticed that some here think they will gain a higher place in Heaven, because they are the enlightened ones.

Wouldn't it be nice if a few of these topics here would become positive and popular when someone shared their special devotions.

I doubt St. Peter will allow entrance into Heaven according to your I.Q. or if you were correct because you found some error in St. Thomas writings, or some Pope said this wrong, because as Trinity reminds us, a particular Pope used one quetionable word.

Do you really think you will get a higher level in Heaven because in your opinion Trent said this but Trent meant that. Or this Catholic person is liberal but this one is better to read.  

I believe that God did not mean His Church to be so complicated, if so, the unlearned man, could never be saved.

It is interesting to read about opinions of others, but it seem that there is a collection of persons that are quick to inflame and they glory in it.    Myself included in the past here, because it is contagious.   Fraternal correction is good, but could we use a little tact.  Maybe we should think before we type particular WORDS.  

"But I tell you, that of every idle word men speak, they shall give account on the day of judgement.  For by thy words thou wilt be justified, and by thy words thou wilt be condemned."  Matthew chapter 12

I could say the same about you and Dawn, I see only minutes apart.    :roll-laugh1:  No offense Dawn, just an observation that Belloc brought up.  

Belloc, do you still have me on hide, well of all the nerve, and here I took you off.    :cussing:

still not looking-hey, good deal, down to 4 ignores now... :applause: :dancing-banana:

its friday, only 4 ignores, its  :sign-party-time: :sign-party-time:

Or, Myrna, as Jesus said, it all comes from the heart.  

Hey, got some good replies there.  Gas is too high there, Alexandria.  But your opinion has infinite value because it was Christ's opinion, too.

I take my cue from the saints.  Their exceeding love for God was what made them what they were, not their exceeding hate for satan.  We really are what we ingest.

By the way, I'm trying to find out who said, "People say satan, satan when they should say Jesus, Jesus." or words to that effect.  I think it was Theresa of Avila.

I would sure like to get to the bottom  of this knee jerk reaction to "religious liberty".