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« Reply #45 on: April 22, 2012, 09:42:55 PM »
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    Internet threats mean squat to me.  
    I assure you, youd lose in whatever you wished to try me at.
    My tone will not change either.


    Exactly. So whenever you want some, just say the word. I have a lot of frequent flyer miles saved up.

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    Second, You can Google International IQ and see the results for yourself.
    Africa ranks dead last, the tests are administered the same, as is the curriculum.
    Blacks dont do as well n the classroom and thats a fact any public inner city teacher will tell you.


    Irrelevant. You know why? I can guarantee you that there's a black person out there with a higher IQ than you. Probably going out with your daughter or something, which explains your rage.

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    Lastly, you wish to argue race and crime?
    Black males are 6% of the US Populace but committ 60% of all US Murders. Why?
    Murders victims are not racists...please enlighten me.


    Fifty two percent of sex crimes are committed by white males.

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    Black men committed 37,000 Rapes Interracially last year, on White women.
    There was not 1 White ON Black Rape.


    In 2009, there were 49 white on black rapes in NC alone.

    But ok, let's say we meet halfway on this: let's say we segregate and you no longer have blacks to worry about. What are you then going to do about all the white rapists?

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    I could go on and on and will gladly cite and US Dept Of Justice Studies data you wish, the reality and fact is that Blacks are more violent than Whites, and Black Nations, not a single one, is a First World Country.


    White power!


    I have literally sparred with world class  boxers and fighters, taking on a trad cath is not big on my wish list of sparring partners...please get lost with your idle threats.


    I am not talking anomolies but statistical averages.  In fact, no where did I mention that or that the occasional black can score highly on achievement and performance tests.
    In that regard  Sub Saharan SAfrica ranks dead last, barely above mentally retarded.



    The US Dept of Justice has been calling Hispanics, Jews, Arabs.... 'White'.
    If they were to break down stats appropriately, and truly calling Whites White, and not Hispanics, Illegals, Arabs or Central Asians as they do white as well,  they would see the shocking reality, in that White cities, states and nations are among the Safest anywhere.

    Is it any wonder that Maine, NH, VT, WY, SD & ND have such low crime rates?
    so do Sweden, Norway, Finland etc

    You dont like reality and truth, but thems the facts and they are not debateable.
    The more discerning of readers know what I say to be true.


    There was No wheel, alphabet, 2 story building on the arrival of the 1st Euro explorers to the dark continent.  
    Nature or Nurture can be argued, but with data we have now and IQ type testing, it stands to reason that it is nature.


    Do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound?  You are strutting like a school yard thug, showing off muscles and saying, "I can beat your up!"  It is  embarrassing to watch an adult behave like  that.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

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    « Reply #46 on: April 22, 2012, 09:43:28 PM »
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    Those interested in reading about how IQ scores are bunk should see this:



    Could you give me a link that specifically addresses IQ tests as being bunk? I'll admit I don't really understand the science behind IQ tests, but I notice the realities that IQ tests corroborate.

    I've read that Neil Postman wrote in Bowling Alone that the more multiracial a community the more distrust there is. And he's a liberal.


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    « Reply #47 on: April 22, 2012, 09:48:04 PM »
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    You're asian. Does this have anything to do with why you want this thread to be reported?

    Does anything the teacher reported conflict with your experience?


    Yep. I went to a majority black high school. Still maintain friendships with my black friends. One's a lawyer. Another started a charitable organization for those with disabilities. Another is a CPA that helped me prepare my taxes this year to maximize my lifelong learning credits (I'm in an MBA program this year).

    Was in the Army for six years. Served with a lot of black men and women that love their country. It's not fair for them to get blasted by bigots although they would just ignore it (and tell me to do so also).

    I have a nephew and niece that are both half black. Best kids in the world. Nephew will be taking advanced classes when he starts junior high school next year. He also just won a fishing tournament. Niece read me a book when I visited her a couple of weeks ago (she's 4).

    Lastly, I don't care if people have opinions, I really don't. I wanted to report him because he chose to be combative. Plus, stupid people suck and shouldn't be given a media to spread their stupidity.


    I didn't mean have you found exceptions that conflict with this teacher's observations.

    Everything he wrote correlates with my experience.

    I don't love the United States. I think this country is a ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic hellhole. I'd move if I could afford to. But where to?

    Have you dissociated yourself from the masons yet, Oremus?


    1. I shared personal expressions to counter the teacher's observations. I'm sorry you experienced similar things. But I've faced them too.

    2. If I could move, I would too. I've had my eye on some European countries. But I'm financially strapped like you.

    3. I never joined the Masons. I'm in the Knights of Columbus. I almost became a Mason, but during RCIA, I discovered that Catholics could not become Masons. So I destroyed my application. My co-worker is a Mason, but I try not to talk to him about it (which is difficult because he is their "Worshipful Master").  


    I understand. I've known plenty of blacks that are great people. But the general vibe I get from the black community is different, and makes me think blacks and whites are not compatible, except for exceptions. Even the blacks I've known that I've gotten along with tend to have a marxist view of race relations, where whites are cast as the heavy.

    I'm glad you got away from the masons!

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    « Reply #48 on: April 22, 2012, 09:48:38 PM »
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    Those interested in reading about how IQ scores are bunk should see this:



    Could you give me a link that specifically addresses IQ tests as being bunk? I'll admit I don't really understand the science behind IQ tests, but I notice the realities that IQ tests corroborate.

    I've read that Neil Postman wrote in Bowling Alone that the more multiracial a community the more distrust there is. And he's a liberal.


    A strong nation with a Strong National Identity is a threat.

    A fractued one is not, it can be looted and fleeced much easier, especially with infighting.

    Think of it this way...A Lion Keeper has a dangerous job at the zoo feeding lions getting through the cages to feed them.
    But throw in some hyeanas, jackals, Rhinos, Monkeys, Gorillas, giraffs, elephants and his job is alot easier.



    'The White Women must cohabit with members of the dark races, the White Men with black women. The White Race will disappear, our most dangerous enemy will become only a memory.
    We shall embark upon an era of ten thousand years of peace and plenty, and our race will rule undisputed over the world.
    Our superior intelligence will easily enable us to retain Mastery over a world of Dark peoples
    '-Rabbi Rabbinovich

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    « Reply #49 on: April 22, 2012, 09:51:03 PM »
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    Ok, do me a favor: bring up comparisons of white crime and Asian crime, white IQ averages and Asian IQ averages.

    Second thought, save yourself some trouble: Asians are smarter than whites and commit far fewer crimes.

    So get ... oh, never mind.

    (Yes, I'm Asian).


    It's true east asians have higher iq's than whites. And are less violent. If asians wanted to segregate officially from whites I wouldn't mind.


    No, thats not true.
    Depending on the year, and tests, Whites score higher than Asians.
    Heres a recent tests-Holland (109), Germany (109), Sweden (108), Poland all scored higher than Asian rim nations, though not by much.
    http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/NationalIQs.aspx


    The best engineers in the world come from and have always come from Europe.-Germany.
    Asians generally arenot known for theiroriginality, But they make excellent replicas, say in producinga Lexxus as compared to a Mercedes.
    Mercedes has all the patents and engineering, Japan has the production and QC



    Heres another test that has Asians scoring higher..
    http://www.rlynn.co.uk/pages/article_intelligence/t4.asp


    Tx I'll take a look! I wrote east asians, to distinguish them from other asians.


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    « Reply #50 on: April 22, 2012, 09:54:36 PM »
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    Internet threats mean squat to me.  
    I assure you, youd lose in whatever you wished to try me at.
    My tone will not change either.


    Exactly. So whenever you want some, just say the word. I have a lot of frequent flyer miles saved up.

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    Second, You can Google International IQ and see the results for yourself.
    Africa ranks dead last, the tests are administered the same, as is the curriculum.
    Blacks dont do as well n the classroom and thats a fact any public inner city teacher will tell you.


    Irrelevant. You know why? I can guarantee you that there's a black person out there with a higher IQ than you. Probably going out with your daughter or something, which explains your rage.

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    Lastly, you wish to argue race and crime?
    Black males are 6% of the US Populace but committ 60% of all US Murders. Why?
    Murders victims are not racists...please enlighten me.


    Fifty two percent of sex crimes are committed by white males.

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    Black men committed 37,000 Rapes Interracially last year, on White women.
    There was not 1 White ON Black Rape.


    In 2009, there were 49 white on black rapes in NC alone.

    But ok, let's say we meet halfway on this: let's say we segregate and you no longer have blacks to worry about. What are you then going to do about all the white rapists?

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    I could go on and on and will gladly cite and US Dept Of Justice Studies data you wish, the reality and fact is that Blacks are more violent than Whites, and Black Nations, not a single one, is a First World Country.


    White power!


    I have literally sparred with world class  boxers and fighters, taking on a trad cath is not big on my wish list of sparring partners...please get lost with your idle threats.


    I am not talking anomolies but statistical averages.  In fact, no where did I mention that or that the occasional black can score highly on achievement and performance tests.
    In that regard  Sub Saharan SAfrica ranks dead last, barely above mentally retarded.



    The US Dept of Justice has been calling Hispanics, Jews, Arabs.... 'White'.
    If they were to break down stats appropriately, and truly calling Whites White, and not Hispanics, Illegals, Arabs or Central Asians as they do white as well,  they would see the shocking reality, in that White cities, states and nations are among the Safest anywhere.

    Is it any wonder that Maine, NH, VT, WY, SD & ND have such low crime rates?
    so do Sweden, Norway, Finland etc

    You dont like reality and truth, but thems the facts and they are not debateable.
    The more discerning of readers know what I say to be true.


    There was No wheel, alphabet, 2 story building on the arrival of the 1st Euro explorers to the dark continent.  
    Nature or Nurture can be argued, but with data we have now and IQ type testing, it stands to reason that it is nature.


    Do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound?  You are strutting like a school yard thug, showing off muscles and saying, "I can beat your up!"  It is  embarrassing to watch an adult behave like  that.


    Read this thread again.
    I never issued a threat or intimated one.
    BUt I dont run from them either, in truth, I really dont have the time for nonsense.
    He had a knee jerk reaction to some information I put forth. M
    any would who believe in a mutlicultural society.  And so it is natural, especially with family that are biracial.  I dont blame him for being upset, he took it personally.
    But It is how the Jews operate and do what they do best, steal money and our labor. The multi cultural society allows them to operate o their advantage in that regard.


    Im not a bully, I dont fight, havent had one in 20 years.
    My last sparring partner, HW Dale Crowe, is in prison for murdering a man with his hands, put Tony Tubbs in a coma, was beating Michael Moore until a cut, and was a very good boxer and good guy, before he lost his head.




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    « Reply #51 on: April 22, 2012, 10:13:17 PM »
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    Those interested in reading about how IQ scores are bunk should see this:



    Could you give me a link that specifically addresses IQ tests as being bunk? I'll admit I don't really understand the science behind IQ tests, but I notice the realities that IQ tests corroborate.

    I've read that Neil Postman wrote in Bowling Alone that the more multiracial a community the more distrust there is. And he's a liberal.


    I'm sure if you search you'll find links about how IQ testing is complete pseudo-science. The book I cited is excellent on this.

    Neil Postman didn't write Bowling Alone. Robert Putman did.

    Another great Neil Postman book is this:



    It's the most devastating indictment of television that I've ever seen.

    Here's Postman talking about his Technopoly book:

    http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/31627-1

    It's a gross simplification to call Postman a liberal. He doesn't comfortably fit into any category. His dark view of technology, for example, resonates with traditionalism.

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    « Reply #52 on: April 22, 2012, 10:18:16 PM »
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    Blacks cheat more advanced races of the schooling they deserve.


    Yes, it's awful to have to share membership of the Mystical Body of Christ with these lesser beings. It must break Our Lord's Sacred Heart every time one of them is baptised and incorporated into His Mystical Body. It's pollution really! And to think that some of them even get ordained and can handle the Blessed Sacrament and absolve sins... even the sins of us more advanced people!


    I was thinking the same thing...


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    « Reply #53 on: April 22, 2012, 11:13:09 PM »
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    Those interested in reading about how IQ scores are bunk should see this:



    Could you give me a link that specifically addresses IQ tests as being bunk? I'll admit I don't really understand the science behind IQ tests, but I notice the realities that IQ tests corroborate.

    I've read that Neil Postman wrote in Bowling Alone that the more multiracial a community the more distrust there is. And he's a liberal.


    I'm sure if you search you'll find links about how IQ testing is complete pseudo-science. The book I cited is excellent on this.

    Neil Postman didn't write Bowling Alone. Robert Putman did.

    Another great Neil Postman book is this:



    It's the most devastating indictment of television that I've ever seen.

    Here's Postman talking about his Technopoly book:

    http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/31627-1

    It's a gross simplification to call Postman a liberal. He doesn't comfortably fit into any category. His dark view of technology, for example, resonates with traditionalism.




    Ahh, my mistake. Well I was calling Putnam a liberal then, not Postman.

    Do you understand the science behind IQ testing, or are you like me and just try to ascertain the motives of scientists who take a particular stance on the subject by analyzing their politics and opinions on other issues?

    I don't want to participate in a debate about the validity of IQ tests since I don't understand them, and I suspect (like the theory of evolution) 99% of people who talk about them don't understand them either.

    These three groups are said to comprise the top three slots on IQ testing by race:

    1. αѕнкenαzι Jews
    2. East Asians
    3. Whites

    That makes sense to me, based on my interactions with various races over the years. Whether IQ tests are good science or not, I don't have the qualifications to say.

    I'm not a fan of multiculturalism, irrespective of whether IQ tests are bunk or not. And I suspect they're not bunk.

    Even if whites are the least intelligent race I still prefer them, and most whites (including whites who promote multiculturalism) feel the same based on where they choose to live and where they choose send their children to school (if they have a choice).


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    « Reply #54 on: April 22, 2012, 11:49:44 PM »
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  • "The Color of Crime

    Race, Crime, and Justice in America
    Second, Expanded Edition, 2005


    Click for the free PDF version
    Major Findings:

    Police and the justice system are not biased against minorities.
    Crime Rates

    Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
    When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.
    Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.
    The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of the population that is black and Hispanic.
    Interracial Crime

    Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.
    Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are black.
    Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
    Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa.
    Gangs

    Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
    Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs. Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely.
    Incarceration

    Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled, from 139 to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from 320,000 to 1.39 million.
    Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites. Hispanics are three times more likely.
    The Color of Crime is an expanded version of a monograph on crime first published by NCF in 1999. The older version of the report is located here."

    http://www.nc-f.org/colorofcrime/index.html

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    « Reply #55 on: April 23, 2012, 12:01:48 AM »
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  • "It would be hard to overestimate the extent to which churches have surrendered to the leftist racial world view. Two years ago, the Pope said this about the inundation of Western countries by Third-World “refugees:” “These foreigners are above all our brothers, and no one should be excepted for reasons of race and religion.” Of course, one could argue that race and religion are the two most important reasons to prevent foreigners from settling in one’s homeland. A common race is the foundation of any true nation, while a common religion is the foundation of a common moral code.

    "Leaving aside the race question for a moment, what kind of insanity has gripped the Catholic hierarchy that it would maintain that a Christian country should not keep out non-Christians?"

    "According to the famous “Table of Nations” in Genesis 10, God organized mankind into discrete nations in the aftermath of the Great Flood"

    "Christ’s commandment that Christians should “love their enemies” sounds in English like a radical, all-embracing injunction that would do away with ethnic or national differences. Greek, however, distinguishes between personal enemies and foreign enemies. It has three words for enemy: polemios (a foreign enemy), agonistes (a competitor or rival), and echthros (a private enemy; literally, one whom you hate). When Christ commands Christians to “love their enemies” (Matthew 5:44; Luke 6:27,35), he uses the word for one’s private enemy, that is to say someone with whom a Christian has quarreled. Never is this injunction applied to foreign enemies, the enemies of one’s people."

    "In answer to our questions about his nationality, the modern Christian could offer four possible answers:  Paul was a Cilician (place of birth); he was a Roman (citizenship); he was a Greek (language); he was a Jew but became a Christian (religion).

    According to Paul himself, all four answers would be wrong, for Paul on numerous occasions, after he became a Christian, identified himself as belonging to the Jєωιѕн nation on the basis of birth and heritage — not merely a Jew but of a particular tribe. He was, he claimed, “of the nation of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of the Hebrews” (Philippians 3:5). When he wrote to the Romans in the city of Rome, he did not claim to be Roman (except by citizenship) but Jєωιѕн: “I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin” (Romans 11:1). He referred to the Israelites as his “brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh, who are Israelites” (Romans 9:3, 4). He also referred to the Roman Christians as his “brethren” (Romans 11:25), but he is clearly speaking in a spiritual sense."

    http://www.amren.com/ar/2001/07/




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    « Reply #56 on: April 23, 2012, 12:57:39 AM »
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    By the way, my mom is Korean and I asked her about the dog eating thing one time. She got really defensive and said that was for the extremely poor people that can't find anything else to eat. It may be different in other Asian cultures, but I don't know. Never had the heart to ask my dad (he's Filipino pride through and through).


    No, I think pretty much everybody in Korea who isn't extensively westernized eats dog on occasion; 보신탕, 'boshintang' (dog soup) is a popular summer dish. As for Filipinos, they will actually roast their own dogs.

    This is an area of legitimate cultural relativity.

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  • About dog eating, it seemed pretty common in Vietnam in that there were a lot of vendors selling dog. However, I've heard that the practice originated during wartimes when food was scarce and people had to resort to eating dogs and horses, etc.

    I don't see the problem either way.



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    « Reply #58 on: April 23, 2012, 02:06:35 AM »
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    ...[every word out of its mouth]...


    On Judgment Day I am certain that plenty of decent people of low IQ will be in a different line from those who are so full of themselves with their racial and other conceits.

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    Pride is the excessive love of one's own excellence. It is ordinarily accounted one of the seven capital sins. St. Thomas, however, endorsing the appreciation of St. Gregory, considers it the queen of all vices, and puts vainglory in its place as one of the deadly sins. In giving it this pre-eminence he takes it in a most formal and complete signification. He understands it to be that frame of mind in which a man, through the love of his own worth, aims to withdraw himself from subjection to Almighty God, and sets at naught the commands of superiors. It is a species of contempt of God and of those who bear his commission. Regarded in this way, it is of course mortal sin of a most heinous sort. Indeed St. Thomas rates it in this sense as one of the blackest of sins. By it the creature refuses to stay within his essential orbit; he turns his back upon God, not through weakness or ignorance, but solely because in his self-exaltation he is minded not to submit. His attitude has something Satanic in it...

    PRIDE in the Catholic Encyclopedia, 1913 edition

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    « Reply #59 on: April 23, 2012, 02:50:04 AM »
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    Blacks and Whites Do Not share the same culture.
    They have their own music, dance, entertainment.
    Some whites whose minds become polluted take interest in Rap, Hip Hop and BET, but it is the Jew who produces it and it is sign of mental illness.

    I don't believe all cultures are equal. Neither whites nor blacks should be listening to that music. It should be no one's culture.

    All races can share a Christian culture. Otherwise, the Church is not universal.