Author Topic: What is it Like to Teach Black Students? (Read 6259 times)

JohnChrysostom · « **Reply #30 on:** April 22, 2012, 08:47:16 PM »

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Internet threats mean squat to me.
I assure you, youd lose in whatever you wished to try me at.
My tone will not change either.

Exactly. So whenever you want some, just say the word. I have a lot of frequent flyer miles saved up.

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Second, You can Google International IQ and see the results for yourself.
Africa ranks dead last, the tests are administered the same, as is the curriculum.
Blacks dont do as well n the classroom and thats a fact any public inner city teacher will tell you.

Irrelevant. You know why? I can guarantee you that there's a black person out there with a higher IQ than you. Probably going out with your daughter or something, which explains your rage.

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Lastly, you wish to argue race and crime?
Black males are 6% of the US Populace but committ 60% of all US Murders. Why?
Murders victims are not racists...please enlighten me.

Fifty two percent of sex crimes are committed by white males.

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Black men committed 37,000 Rapes Interracially last year, on White women.
There was not 1 White ON Black Rape.

In 2009, there were 49 white on black rapes in NC alone.

But ok, let's say we meet halfway on this: let's say we segregate and you no longer have blacks to worry about. What are you then going to do about all the white rapists?

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I could go on and on and will gladly cite and US Dept Of Justice Studies data you wish, the reality and fact is that Blacks are more violent than Whites, and Black Nations, not a single one, is a First World Country.

White power!

I have literally sparred with world class boxers and fighters, taking on a trad cath is not big on my wish list of sparring partners...please get lost with your idle threats.

I am not talking anomolies but statistical averages. In fact, no where did I mention that or that the occasional black can score highly on achievement and performance tests.
In that regard Sub Saharan SAfrica ranks dead last, barely above mentally retarded.

The US Dept of Justice has been calling Hispanics, Jews, Arabs.... 'White'.
If they were to break down stats appropriately, and truly calling Whites White, and not Hispanics, Illegals, Arabs or Central Asians as they do white as well, they would see the shocking reality, in that White cities, states and nations are among the Safest anywhere.

Is it any wonder that Maine, NH, VT, WY, SD & ND have such low crime rates?
so do Sweden, Norway, Finland etc

You dont like reality and truth, but thems the facts and they are not debateable.
The more discerning of readers know what I say to be true.

There was No wheel, alphabet, 2 story building on the arrival of the 1st Euro explorers to the dark continent.
Nature or Nurture can be argued, but with data we have now and IQ type testing, it stands to reason that it is nature.

Oremus · « **Reply #31 on:** April 22, 2012, 08:47:52 PM »

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Is there any way to report this post?

You're asian. Does this have anything to do with why you want this thread to be reported?

Does anything the teacher reported conflict with your experience?

Yep. I went to a majority black high school. Still maintain friendships with my black friends. One's a lawyer. Another started a charitable organization for those with disabilities. Another is a CPA that helped me prepare my taxes this year to maximize my lifelong learning credits (I'm in an MBA program this year).

Was in the Army for six years. Served with a lot of black men and women that love their country. It's not fair for them to get blasted by bigots although they would just ignore it (and tell me to do so also).

I have a nephew and niece that are both half black. Best kids in the world. Nephew will be taking advanced classes when he starts junior high school next year. He also just won a fishing tournament. Niece read me a book when I visited her a couple of weeks ago (she's 4).

Lastly, I don't care if people have opinions, I really don't. I wanted to report him because he chose to be combative. Plus, stupid people suck and shouldn't be given a media to spread their stupidity.

JohnChrysostom · « **Reply #32 on:** April 22, 2012, 08:50:29 PM »

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Is there any way to report this post?

You're asian. Does this have anything to do with why you want this thread to be reported?

Does anything the teacher reported conflict with your experience?

Yep. I went to a majority black high school. Still maintain friendships with my black friends. One's a lawyer. Another started a charitable organization for those with disabilities. Another is a CPA that helped me prepare my taxes this year to maximize my lifelong learning credits (I'm in an MBA program this year).

Was in the Army for six years. Served with a lot of black men and women that love their country. It's not fair for them to get blasted by bigots although they would just ignore it (and tell me to do so also).

I have a nephew and niece that are both half black. Best kids in the world. Nephew will be taking advanced classes when he starts junior high school next year. He also just won a fishing tournament. Niece read me a book when I visited her a couple of weeks ago (she's 4).

Lastly, I don't care if people have opinions, I really don't. I wanted to report him because he chose to be combative. Plus, stupid people suck and shouldn't be given a media to spread their stupidity.

I have black friends too, you fool.
It doesnt change the facts...

Heres a comparison for all to see, this is typical of a prdominately ite and predominately black city comparison

JohnChrysostom · « **Reply #33 on:** April 22, 2012, 08:53:58 PM »

Most Dangerous Cities in America.
All have One thing in Common-A Majority Black Population.

Maybe thats only a coinidence, but I think otherwise.
From the bottom up starting with Flint. Facts are not debateable.

Oremus · « **Reply #34 on:** April 22, 2012, 09:08:27 PM »

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I have black friends too, you fool.
It doesnt change the facts...

I bet you wouldn't if they saw your posts here!

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Heres a comparison for all to see, this is typical of a prdominately ite and predominately black city comparison

Ok, do me a favor: bring up comparisons of white crime and Asian crime, white IQ averages and Asian IQ averages.

Second thought, save yourself some trouble: Asians are smarter than whites and commit far fewer crimes.

So get ... oh, never mind.

(Yes, I'm Asian).

Busillis · « **Reply #35 on:** April 22, 2012, 09:15:54 PM »

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Is there any way to report this post?

You're asian. Does this have anything to do with why you want this thread to be reported?

Does anything the teacher reported conflict with your experience?

Yep. I went to a majority black high school. Still maintain friendships with my black friends. One's a lawyer. Another started a charitable organization for those with disabilities. Another is a CPA that helped me prepare my taxes this year to maximize my lifelong learning credits (I'm in an MBA program this year).

Was in the Army for six years. Served with a lot of black men and women that love their country. It's not fair for them to get blasted by bigots although they would just ignore it (and tell me to do so also).

I have a nephew and niece that are both half black. Best kids in the world. Nephew will be taking advanced classes when he starts junior high school next year. He also just won a fishing tournament. Niece read me a book when I visited her a couple of weeks ago (she's 4).

Lastly, I don't care if people have opinions, I really don't. I wanted to report him because he chose to be combative. Plus, stupid people suck and shouldn't be given a media to spread their stupidity.

I didn't mean have you found exceptions that conflict with this teacher's observations.

Everything he wrote correlates with my experience.

I don't love the United States. I think this country is a ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic hellhole. I'd move if I could afford to. But where to?

Have you dissociated yourself from the masons yet, Oremus?

Oremus · « **Reply #36 on:** April 22, 2012, 09:15:56 PM »

I'd like to apologize to everyone on CathInfo for my behavior, even to JC. This is one of the few topics that really gets my blood boiling.

I'm not done debating, and I'm not backing down because JC said he's sparred with world class boxers (I'm still up for a round or two any time...depending on how long it takes for me to drop you :roll-laugh1:).

But I am sorry for some of the things I've said and I'd like to be able to talk about the more realistic problems facing all of us: our fight for our souls. Even with JC.

Jitpring · « **Reply #37 on:** April 22, 2012, 09:17:32 PM »

Two things:

1) The OP pointed us to a bowdlerized version of the original essay. To read the unsanitized essay, go where it was first published:

http://www.amren.com/ar/2009/07/index.html

2) JohnChrysostom has given us IQ score information. This was a bad move, because those with high IQs know that IQ scores are bunk. This is because intelligence is unquantifiable. By pointing to IQ scores as authoritative, JohnChrysostom has unwittingly embraced scientism (n.b.: scientism, not science), and as those with high IQs know, scientism is inextricably bound with the poison of this age.

Those interested in reading about how IQ scores are bunk should see this:

In short, it would have been far more astute of JohnChrysostom to simply rely on crime statistics, illegitimacy rates, literacy rates, etc.

Busillis · « **Reply #38 on:** April 22, 2012, 09:17:53 PM »

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Ok, do me a favor: bring up comparisons of white crime and Asian crime, white IQ averages and Asian IQ averages.

Second thought, save yourself some trouble: Asians are smarter than whites and commit far fewer crimes.

So get ... oh, never mind.

(Yes, I'm Asian).

It's true east asians have higher iq's than whites. And are less violent. If asians wanted to segregate officially from whites I wouldn't mind.

Busillis · « **Reply #39 on:** April 22, 2012, 09:20:15 PM »

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Two things:

1) The OP pointed us to a bowdlerized version of the original essay. To read the unsanitized essay, go where it was first published:

http://www.amren.com/ar/2009/07/index.html

In short, it would have been far more astute of JohnChrysostom to simply rely on crime statistics, illegitimacy rates, literacy rates, etc.

I posted the link I found.

I'll check the link out.

JohnChrysostom · « **Reply #40 on:** April 22, 2012, 09:27:07 PM »

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Ok, do me a favor: bring up comparisons of white crime and Asian crime, white IQ averages and Asian IQ averages.

Second thought, save yourself some trouble: Asians are smarter than whites and commit far fewer crimes.

So get ... oh, never mind.

(Yes, I'm Asian).

It's true east asians have higher iq's than whites. And are less violent. If asians wanted to segregate officially from whites I wouldn't mind.

No, thats not true.
Depending on the year, and tests, Whites score higher than Asians.
Heres a recent tests-Holland (109), Germany (109), Sweden (108), Poland all scored higher than Asian rim nations, though not by much.
http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/NationalIQs.aspx

The best engineers in the world come from and have always come from Europe.-Germany.
Asians generally arenot known for theiroriginality, But they make excellent replicas, say in producinga Lexxus as compared to a Mercedes.
Mercedes has all the patents and engineering, Japan has the production and QC

Heres another test that has Asians scoring higher..
http://www.rlynn.co.uk/pages/article_intelligence/t4.asp

Oremus · « **Reply #41 on:** April 22, 2012, 09:30:02 PM »

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Is there any way to report this post?

You're asian. Does this have anything to do with why you want this thread to be reported?

Does anything the teacher reported conflict with your experience?

Yep. I went to a majority black high school. Still maintain friendships with my black friends. One's a lawyer. Another started a charitable organization for those with disabilities. Another is a CPA that helped me prepare my taxes this year to maximize my lifelong learning credits (I'm in an MBA program this year).

Was in the Army for six years. Served with a lot of black men and women that love their country. It's not fair for them to get blasted by bigots although they would just ignore it (and tell me to do so also).

I have a nephew and niece that are both half black. Best kids in the world. Nephew will be taking advanced classes when he starts junior high school next year. He also just won a fishing tournament. Niece read me a book when I visited her a couple of weeks ago (she's 4).

Lastly, I don't care if people have opinions, I really don't. I wanted to report him because he chose to be combative. Plus, stupid people suck and shouldn't be given a media to spread their stupidity.

I didn't mean have you found exceptions that conflict with this teacher's observations.

Everything he wrote correlates with my experience.

I don't love the United States. I think this country is a ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic hellhole. I'd move if I could afford to. But where to?

Have you dissociated yourself from the masons yet, Oremus?

1. I shared personal expressions to counter the teacher's observations. I'm sorry you experienced similar things. But I've faced them too.

2. If I could move, I would too. I've had my eye on some European countries. But I'm financially strapped like you.

3. I never joined the Masons. I'm in the Knights of Columbus. I almost became a Mason, but during RCIA, I discovered that Catholics could not become Masons. So I destroyed my application. My co-worker is a Mason, but I try not to talk to him about it (which is difficult because he is their "Worshipful Master").

Busillis · « **Reply #42 on:** April 22, 2012, 09:31:38 PM »

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Two things:

1) The OP pointed us to a bowdlerized version of the original essay. To read the unsanitized essay, go where it was first published:

http://www.amren.com/ar/2009/07/index.html]

I just read this. It's better than the one i linked to, though nothing vital is different. Just some stuff is fleshed out.

JohnChrysostom · « **Reply #43 on:** April 22, 2012, 09:35:08 PM »

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I have black friends too, you fool.
It doesnt change the facts...

I bet you wouldn't if they saw your posts here!

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Heres a comparison for all to see, this is typical of a prdominately ite and predominately black city comparison

Ok, do me a favor: bring up comparisons of white crime and Asian crime, white IQ averages and Asian IQ averages.

Second thought, save yourself some trouble: Asians are smarter than whites and commit far fewer crimes.

So get ... oh, never mind.

(Yes, I'm Asian).

Asians have a crime rate that is 4 xs lower that of Whites in USA.

BUT, The Dept of Justice calls Jews, Hispanics legal and Illegal, Central Asians and Arabs White-disingenuously.

In truth, I think highly of some Asian cultures. Some moreso than others.
China is not the most advanced or 'cultured' nation-eating dog, cat, tiger penis, and in some cases children in soup. How it treats its animals and the unborn says alotabout that society.
Same goes for other Asian cultures.
Japan seems to be the most advanced and is respectd by all peoples. Including me.

I rubbed you the wrong way and Im sorry. Didnt mean to.
Time is short, we are at war, and Im cutting through the BS.

Oremus · « **Reply #44 on:** April 22, 2012, 09:41:21 PM »

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I rubbed you the wrong way and Im sorry. Didnt mean to.
Time is short, we are at war, and Im cutting through the BS.

I need to apologize too. I just get really defensive because of my personal experiences during my upbringing and into the military. So I'm sorry as well.

By the way, my mom is Korean and I asked her about the dog eating thing one time. She got really defensive and said that was for the extremely poor people that can't find anything else to eat. It may be different in other Asian cultures, but I don't know. Never had the heart to ask my dad (he's Filipino pride through and through).