Author Topic: What is a Troll? (Read 4809 times)

trickster · « **on:** July 02, 2014, 11:39:14 AM »

Honestly guys. I keep getting called a troll, so at least I deserve an explanation of what that is :)

Trickster
Bruce Ferguson

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #1 on:** July 02, 2014, 11:41:26 AM »

A troll is a hairy ape-like man who lives under the bridge and is always trying to stop small children from crossing that bridge.

Now you know what a troll is.

SenzaDubbio · « **Reply #2 on:** July 02, 2014, 11:45:32 AM »

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #3 on:** July 02, 2014, 09:04:08 PM »

Quote from: trickster

Honestly guys. I keep getting called a troll, so at least I deserve an explanation of what that is :)

Trickster
Bruce Ferguson[/quote

I have been called that too. I usually get called that because I am willing to discuss controversial topics, and go against the grain with my opinions/beliefs. My opinions are considered unpopular by some groups of people and maybe even offensive. Usually when I express my opinions about a matter, they are backed by evidence and may even be the 100% truth. But because people would rather believe whatever it is they want to believe, I end up being called a troll because they don't like me. Basically, a troll is someone who goes around trying to get a reaction out of someone on the internet. It isn't so much that the troll is honest and truthful about what he/she writes on the internet, but the troll's objective is solely to stir people up with what he/she says.

In my case, that is not my goal. I might start topics that stir people up, but that is not my ultimate objective. My objective is to discuss controversial topics because I think they are important, and its a good opportunity for me to write what I truly believe on these matters. I always like comparing my beliefs with what other people say so that I can come that much more closer to the truth. If I think someone's argument is true then there are times where I have to change my own beliefs and side with theirs.

SenzaDubbio · « **Reply #4 on:** July 03, 2014, 11:33:06 AM »

I didn't even know what a troll was until I googled it. But with a name like trickster, you are asking to be classified as a troll before you even type, although I have no idea why you chose your name to be such. Possibly a name change would help you out?

PerEvangelicaDicta · « **Reply #5 on:** July 03, 2014, 11:54:55 AM »

Quote from: SenzaDubbio

I didn't even know what a troll was until I googled it. But with a name like trickster, you are asking to be classified as a troll before you even type, although I have no idea why you chose your name to be such. Possibly a name change would help you out?

I charitably offered the same in another thread, Senza. Mr. Ferguson explained how / why he used the name and acknowledged it is troublesome here on a Catholic forum. I appreciate that he uses his given name.

FWIW, my assessment of troll includes two styles: either the person is a deliberate troublemaker, or unwittingly annoying. Both kinds reveal themselves, the first rather quickly. The second, more of a cross to bear - they don't necessarily deserve banning, more like a high maintenance forum member. They skirt the definition of troll oftentimes. I do not include new people to the forum in this, who are asking honest questions and engaging in robust debate (as long as there is no blasphemy or other insult to the Father).

MyrnaM · « **Reply #6 on:** July 03, 2014, 12:19:27 PM »

Troll ---> :ape:

glaston · « **Reply #7 on:** July 03, 2014, 01:18:47 PM »

Quote from: trickster

Honestly guys. I keep getting called a troll, so at least I deserve an explanation of what that is :)

Trickster
Bruce Ferguson

Masons are told to study the sagas as they reach a certain degree.
Royal Arch Masons are obsessed with bridges in fact they make pictures of their degrees as steps forming a bridge with Templar degrees on the other side.
Troll of course contains their signature 'twin' mark (their "two Johns" etc) & is associated with Norse mythology in the saga and a bridge!

Remember Holland WW2 failure in Arnhem against Tanks + 'key' Bridge?

glaston · « **Reply #8 on:** July 03, 2014, 01:31:40 PM »

B.F.

I also know indians were used as radio comms men in WW2 as nαzιs couldn't decipher languages.

A number of Indians were early on made into freemasons too!

A freemason Indian saved a trooper officer freemason in 1800's from being scalped and shot by fellow injuns!

PS
Which Pope used to blatantly kiss the airport runway (APRON) as soon as he landed in a country?

Lighthouse · « **Reply #9 on:** July 03, 2014, 01:56:13 PM »

PED:

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I do not include new people to the forum in this, who are asking honest questions and engaging in robust debate (as long as there is no blasphemy or other insult to the Father).

Yeah, like trans-dressing men wearing horns and pretending to be nuns. Surely no one on a trad Catholic forum would take that to be blasphemy. Just a bunch of close buddies having fun.

And, of course, the best way to deal with a pagan, Islam, or Protestant is to talk to them and learn what you are missing. The Catholic Church didn't get everything right, ya know?

PerEvangelicaDicta · « **Reply #10 on:** July 03, 2014, 02:16:01 PM »

I was making a general statement about new Catholic members who ask honest questions. You may have been reading too much into my statement.
There are new and "old" members who do get into robust debates, but, for the record, I do not support ecuмenism in any way, shape, form. The Church cannot and should never budge an iota from Her teachings. If a heretic comes to Her (say, through this forum) then we should instruct them in Truth, as He commanded us to do, without compromise.

As to the specifics you noted, Lighthouse, I did see your post in the previous thread and commented accordingly. It is scandalous.

Lighthouse · « **Reply #11 on:** July 03, 2014, 06:45:32 PM »

Understood. :alcohol:

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 03, 2014, 09:06:02 PM »

I can name at lease one troll on this forum. Poche. He is not really liked
on other forums and would like to see him leave.
For example that ridiculous article he copied and pasted claiming that
Pope Pius XII supported the establishment of Israel.
How mad can you get.

trickster · « **Reply #13 on:** July 12, 2014, 01:19:03 AM »

Quote from: InfiniteFaith

Quote from: trickster
Honestly guys. I keep getting called a troll, so at least I deserve an explanation of what that is :)

Trickster
Bruce Ferguson[/quote

I have been called that too. I usually get called that because I am willing to discuss controversial topics, and go against the grain with my opinions/beliefs. My opinions are considered unpopular by some groups of people and maybe even offensive. Usually when I express my opinions about a matter, they are backed by evidence and may even be the 100% truth. But because people would rather believe whatever it is they want to believe, I end up being called a troll because they don't like me. Basically, a troll is someone who goes around trying to get a reaction out of someone on the internet. It isn't so much that the troll is honest and truthful about what he/she writes on the internet, but the troll's objective is solely to stir people up with what he/she says.

In my case, that is not my goal. I might start topics that stir people up, but that is not my ultimate objective. My objective is to discuss controversial topics because I think they are important, and its a good opportunity for me to write what I truly believe on these matters. I always like comparing my beliefs with what other people say so that I can come that much more closer to the truth. If I think someone's argument is true then there are times where I have to change my own beliefs and side with theirs.

InfiniteFaith, nice to hear from a person who sees things in a familiar manner. I am not here to pass a checklist of my catholicism; I'm here to try and get a better understanding of the traditional catholic movement and then reflect on how this movement is in conversation with aboriginal peoples. I am getting some very good responses and no one has called me a troll since...so not sure if I have lost my badge :)

Trickster

trickster · « **Reply #14 on:** July 12, 2014, 01:22:33 AM »

Quote from: SenzaDubbio

I didn't even know what a troll was until I googled it. But with a name like trickster, you are asking to be classified as a troll before you even type, although I have no idea why you chose your name to be such. Possibly a name change would help you out?

Well you are bang on and people have said so...but when I explain my reasons, people seem to be accepting of it.

In western culture the troll is associated with the devil I am told. In indigenous cultures (I am an aboriginal catholic) the trickster is an animal that changes forms for whatever reason, this change reminded me of conversion. In the Haida culture the raven is a trickster, in many American Southwest tribes, the coyote is a tricksters. Tricksters (which is an english word and looses meaning) are also healing and medicine people...so that is why I chose it long time ago and have used it consistently here and on Catholic Answers.

Anyways, thanks for responding to my question.

Bruce

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