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Read Trickster and Poche's giddy exchange about the beauties of Communion in the hand and "inculturation" and weep for your Traditional Catholic forum, my friends.

By the way BTNYC, at last count there are probably two Novus ordo posters, are we that much of a threat to the hundreds of traditional catholic, do not weep for TC forum, rather celebrate that it is reaching out to at least two novus ordo people who are taking your work seriously.  This is a great forum because it challenges me to think a bit deeper into what TC are saying....wouldn't you prefer that I engage with you OR go away and be another Novus ordo person who simply considers the TC as crazies?  

That's my point there are many liberal catholics (progressive and centralist) Catholics who do not know you or what your forum stands for and then judge the authenticity of both the Traditional Catholic view and indeed Traditional Catholics themselves.  And given that Jesus is amongst all his peoples I tread lightly on ignoring the other or judging the other..."what you do to the least of these...."

Poche was just correcting me on my understanding of recieiving communion in the hand and in the late 60's early 70's when the new practice was introduced at our parish, Poche's understanding reminded me of our original instructions....

That was great, but BTNYC, I think you have a good point, perhaps that N.O. conversation should of been taken over to Catholic Answers...

So I hope that clarifies and gets us on the same page again.

Bruce Ferguson

That was great, but BTNYC, I think you have a good point, perhaps that N.O. conversation should of been taken over to Catholic Answers...

 

Oh, I tried that last year. I was banned for life from CAF for the crimes of fraternally correcting a Catholic who was incorporating Islamic prayers into his own prayers (a form of "inculturation" which I sincerely hope you disapprove of too, Trickster), as well as for calling Moselms "Mohammedans" (a term that was good enough for a millennium's worth of popes and saints, but not for the CAF moderators) and for calling Martin Luther a heretic (which is akin to banning me for calling an apple a fruit - it proves objectively that CAF is staffed by lunatics who not only deny First Principles, but will censure those who do not).

This proved two things to me; first, that the much vaunted "charity" and "open mindedness" of "progressive Catholics" has no more reality or substance than a phantom; and second, that debating with a "progressive Catholic" (read: a Modernist) puts one in the position of Alice debating with Humpty Dumpty:

When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.'

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That was great, but BTNYC, I think you have a good point, perhaps that N.O. conversation should of been taken over to Catholic Answers...

 

Oh, I tried that last year. I was banned for life from CAF for the crimes of fraternally correcting a Catholic who was incorporating Islamic prayers into his own prayers (a form of "inculturation" which I sincerely hope you disapprove of too, Trickster), as well as for calling Moselms "Mohammedans" (a term that was good enough for a millennium's worth of popes and saints, but not for the CAF moderators) and for calling Martin Luther a heretic (which is akin to banning me for calling an apple a fruit - it proves objectively that CAF is staffed by lunatics who not only deny First Principles, but will censure those who do not).

This proved two things to me; first, that the much vaunted "charity" and "open mindedness" of "progressive Catholics" has no more reality or substance than a phantom; and second, that debating with a "progressive Catholic" (read: a Modernist) puts one in the position of Alice debating with Humpty Dumpty:

When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.'

I agree with you BTNYC!   That is my point exactly, when people - progressive, conservative or traditional are faced with someone who holds an opposite position or a position that is sensitive to the other, then the automatic solution is to disengage, minimize, or call down.  Incidently, I have the great record of having all of my threads closed down there :)  

It's too bad really that we can't debate each other like adults...oh well... life goes  on.  

Take care
B
Bruce