B.F.
I also know indians were used as radio comms men in WW2 as nαzιs couldn't decipher languages.
A number of Indians were early on made into freemasons too!
A freemason Indian saved a trooper officer freemason in 1800's from being scalped and shot by fellow injuns!
PS
Which Pope used to blatantly kiss the airport runway (APRON) as soon as he landed in a country?
Yes, "wind-talkers" as the movie is named....awesome story! I wasn't aware that the freemasons accepted indigenous peoples...do you have a reference for me, that is extremely interesting. I am happy that the freemason was spared the scalping...but did you know that was not our peoples practice, that was introduced by the Dutch, and we took a liking to it :) :cheers:
Thank you glaston...you are the first to let me know of the relationship between indigenous peoples and freemason..wasn't aware at all.
Bruce
I heard that at Custers l;ast stand all of the bodies of the American soldiers were mutilated except one. This one was a Catholic who was wearing a brown scapular.
Very interesting indeed, do you by chance have any sources on this? That would be extremely interesting to me.. cause it would tie into my interest in the conversation between indigenous peoples and the church. The Catholic Church had done a lot of work as missionaries and perhaps that would explain the respect for the scapular. Native people generally don't want to disrespect the sacred as that would definitely be bad medicine for them...and when I participated with the Dakota Sioux in their SunDance that sense of the sacred has carrried over the generations.
Bruce
Can anything as simple as a piece of cloth worn as a statement of faith in a promise be this powerful? Certainly! Its this very simplicity si what gives the Scapular its universal appeal. Just wearing it is a prayer, a sign of faith in God, of hope in His mercy, of love for all the Truth He deposited in the Catholic Church. Even non-Christians have been known to respect it, like the black slaves who were ministered to by St. Peter Claver, many of whom were converted to the faith. But one of the most remarkable examples of the respect shown by non-Christians toward the scapular was recorded by the people who inspected the carnage left in the wake of Custer's Last Stand at the battle of the Little Big Horn.
The body of Colonel Keogh, an Irishman of deep Catholic faith, was found propped against a tree. His shirt had been torn open and there, neatly arranged on his breast, was the Brown Scapular of Our Lady of Mount Carmel. The news correspondent who reported this discovery for L'Univers, report that, ". . .Without a doubt the Sacred Badge awakened recollections of the teachings of some devoted missionary; one could see that several of the savages had assisted in bearing the body of an enemy, only a few moments before an object of detestation, to a sheltered spot; there placing it in a reclining position, the head leaning against a tree, carefully arranging the Badge so loved by the deceased upon his breast . . ."
http://catholicplanet.com/articles/article24.htm
Ah, that is awesome reference to historical and verifiable fact. I thought - like I said in my earlier post on this - that the reaction of our Lakota Sioux brothers would of had something to do with missionaries and the Lakota sense of good and bad medicines. Catholic Planet is also a very reliable source -albeit - quite conservative for me. I love the music section of Catholic Planet.
Thanks again Poche.
Bruce
If you are interested in the Indigenous peoples and the Catholic Church here is someting that may be of interest to you;
One of the more remarkable stories that relate to Salinas Pueblo Missions National Monument is the story of Maria de Jesus de Agreda. Born in 1602, Sor Maria de Agreda is reported to have experienced a period of bilocations beginning in 1620. Sor Maria revealed that while in a trance in her convent in Agreda, Spain, she was also mystically present in New Mexico and other places in the present day American southwest and Mexico. While in New Mexico, Sor Maria reported that she had visited the Jumano Indians encouraging them to visit the Spanish missions to ask that a missionary return with them to their pueblos and villages. By 1626, reports from New Mexico were relaying stories of Native Americans arriving at missions because a "Lady in Blue" had told them to go and speak to the priests at those missions. One location said to have been visited by this "Lady in Blue" was the pueblo of Las Humanas, now known as Gran Quivira. She was also reported to have repeatedly "visited" a group of refugee Jumanos near the mission of Cuarac (Quarai). With the arrival of additional missionaries in 1629, Gran Quivira became a visita (satellite mission without a resident Father) of the Abo Mission. Meanwhile, Fray Alonso de Benavides, Custodian of New Mexico, returned to Spain bringing his report (or memorial) of the Blue Nun in New Mexico. While in Spain Benavides met with King Felipe IV, and with his report on the Blue Nun was able to secure additional funds for New Mexico. Benavides then met with Sor Maria in Agreda for three weeks, confirming that she was indeed the "Lady in Blue." An expanded report was presented to Pope Urban VIII in 1634. The following year the Spanish Inquisition visited Sor Maria and found nothing to discredit her story and writings. In 1643 Sor Maria is visited by King Felipe IV and they begin a 22 year correspondence. Following her death in 1665, the beatification process began in 1673 by Pope Clemente X, who declared Sor Maria a "Venerable," but the process for her canonization has yet to be completed.
A resurgence in interest in the story of Maria de Agreda following her 400th birthday in 2002 has recently brought added interest in Gran Quivira, Quarai, and Abo, and the town of Mountainair, New Mexico. Plans by the Manzano Mountain Arts Council for a public mural in Mountainair featuring Sor Maria are now in the works.
http://www.nps.gov/sapu/historyculture/maria-de-agreda.htm
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