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Author Topic: What if Adam had refused to taste the forbidden fruit?  (Read 14194 times)

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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: What if Adam had refused to taste the forbidden fruit?
« Reply #70 on: December 21, 2018, 11:31:19 AM »
#gynecomastia

Is that something you deal with due to steroid use and excessive consumption of sugar?

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: What if Adam had refused to taste the forbidden fruit?
« Reply #71 on: December 21, 2018, 11:34:46 AM »
Indeed, Eve was the initial cause of the Fall, but many Catholic sources say that humanity sinned in Adam.  That's because he is the head and only in him can all of humanity be said to have been virtually contained.  Your argument actually undermines this headship of Adam.


Offline Ladislaus

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Re: What if Adam had refused to taste the forbidden fruit?
« Reply #72 on: December 21, 2018, 11:38:49 AM »
In your zeal to blame woman, you're actually undermining man.  If he has the final authority and status of head, so then also he has primary responsibility for the Fall of humanity ... even if that Fall was occasioned instrumentally by Eve.  Eve was merely the instrumental cause of humanity's Fall, with Adam being the formal cause.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: What if Adam had refused to taste the forbidden fruit?
« Reply #73 on: December 21, 2018, 11:42:29 AM »
But you're still not addressing the central question.  Had Adam not fallen, but only Eve, would their offspring, had Adam chosen to procreate with her, have contracted Original Sin?

Re: What if Adam had refused to taste the forbidden fruit?
« Reply #74 on: December 21, 2018, 12:39:58 PM »
Is that something you deal with due to steroid use and excessive consumption of sugar?
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