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What if Adam had refused to taste the forbidden fruit?
« on: December 18, 2018, 12:23:40 PM »
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Ladislaus

I actually wonder sometimes what would have happened if Eve had given in but then Adam didn't follow suit.  Interesting exercise in speculative theology there.  Would God have made Adam another companion?  Or, alternatively, would their offspring have Original Sin transmitted through Eve alone had Adam not fallen?
Do the Church Fathers address this topic? Did St. Thomas Aquinas?

My opinion is expressed below,  so notice the use of modal verbs and the hypothetical "if".

If Adam had refused Eve's request to taste of the forbidden fruit, then Adam, as head of the First Family, could have prayerfully led Eve to repentance as acts of repentance and forgiveness are graces from God.  Then Adam would have fulfilled his role as Priest, Prophet, and King. When the two met Christ on their daily walks in Eden, then Adam could have begged Christ to forgive Eve, and things could have been restored.

But would that initial rebellious sin of Eve have left a weakness that could have been passed onto their offspring? Would Christ as Savior and Redeemer still need to be born to redeem us?

We must also ask: Why was Christ our eternal King and God known as the Incarnate God? He created the world, and appeared as the Incarnate God in His daily walks in the Garden of Eden even before His Incarnation as a New Born Child.

"O Happy Fault that merited such and so great a Redeemer!"

Even St. David the Psalmist begged forgiveness and was forgiven long before the birth of Christ. Psalm 50 is a product of that repentance.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: What if Adam had refused to taste the forbidden fruit?
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2018, 12:29:37 PM »
Of course Eve could have been forgiven, but I don't believe she would have been restored to a state of Original Justice.


Re: What if Adam had refused to taste the forbidden fruit?
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2018, 12:32:37 PM »


I’ve always wondered the same thing. 

But would God still punish Adam for not guarding Eve better? 

I always thought it could go one of two ways. The first one you brought up. That Adam scolds Eve, and tells her to beg God for forgiveness. Or that God wipes Eve out to make a better model. I do think it would still pass on to offspring because it couldn’t have gone entirely unpunished. 

 to be honest it’s nice to think if Adam hadn’t eaten the apple our Loving Savior wouldn’t have had to endure what He did for us.  

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Re: What if Adam had refused to taste the forbidden fruit?
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2018, 12:35:50 PM »
My guess is that God would not have wiped out Eve but that He would have created another helper for Adam.  He would not punish Adam and his offspring on account of Eve's sin.  IMO.  Eve would have been kicked out of the Garden, while Adam stayed.  Unless Adam chose to go with her out of love and compassion.  I would imagine that God would have given him a choice.  Stay here in the Garden, and I'll make you another helpmate, in which case your offspring will be as planned ... or else go with Eve, and your offspring will be born into Original Sin.


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Re: What if Adam had refused to taste the forbidden fruit?
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2018, 12:41:04 PM »
Cant say for sure but most theologians say Eve’s sin alone wouldn’t have transmitted Original Sin.  

Also, the Old Testament talks about “sins of the father” being passed down through the ages, not the sins of the Mother.