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Author Topic: What if Adam had refused to taste the forbidden fruit?  (Read 12644 times)

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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: What if Adam had refused to taste the forbidden fruit?
« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2018, 03:47:34 PM »
Many theologians would disagree with you.

Re: What if Adam had refused to taste the forbidden fruit?
« Reply #31 on: December 19, 2018, 04:06:58 PM »
The fall of mankind is at the feet of Adam. Quid lost his argument blaming Eve on another thread.

Quid incorrectly blamed Eve by quoting the Old Testament.
"From the woman came the beginning of sin, and by her we all die." ~ Ecclesiasticus 25:33

 I quoted the New Testament
“For by a man came death: and by a man the resurrection of the dead. And as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all shall be made alive” (1 Cor. 15:21-22).

Quid repeated his Old Testament quote and made an infantile statement.

I quoted proof that the New Testament completes and supercedes the Old Testament.

The Old Testament declares that man was separated from God through sin (Genesis chapter 3), and the New Testament declares that man can now be restored in his relationship to God (Romans chapters 3-6).

Hebrews 8:7, "For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second." 8:13, "In that He ( God) says, " A new covenant," He has made the fist obsolete.

Quid pretended not to hear the truth that “In Adam all die” and jumped over to this thread.


Re: What if Adam had refused to taste the forbidden fruit?
« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2018, 04:11:12 PM »
The fall of mankind is at the feet of Adam. Quid lost his argument blaming Eve on another thread.

Quid incorrectly blamed Eve by quoting the Old Testament.
"From the woman came the beginning of sin, and by her we all die." ~ Ecclesiasticus 25:33

 I quoted the New Testament
“For by a man came death: and by a man the resurrection of the dead. And as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all shall be made alive” (1 Cor. 15:21-22).

Quid repeated his Old Testament quote and made an infantile statement.

I quoted proof that the New Testament completes and supercedes the Old Testament.

The Old Testament declares that man was separated from God through sin (Genesis chapter 3), and the New Testament declares that man can now be restored in his relationship to God (Romans chapters 3-6).

Hebrews 8:7, "For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second." 8:13, "In that He ( God) says, " A new covenant," He has made the fist obsolete.

Quid pretended not to hear the truth that “In Adam all die” and jumped over to this thread.
But Cera, Adam was seduced by Eve! 

Re: What if Adam had refused to taste the forbidden fruit?
« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2018, 04:11:56 PM »
Many theologians would disagree with you.

The Protties and Novus Ordoites, if they can be considered "theologians" and not narrators of the falsehood.

Re: What if Adam had refused to taste the forbidden fruit?
« Reply #34 on: December 19, 2018, 04:19:23 PM »
The fall of mankind is at the feet of Adam. Quid lost his argument blaming Eve on another thread.

Quid incorrectly blamed Eve by quoting the Old Testament.
"From the woman came the beginning of sin, and by her we all die." ~ Ecclesiasticus 25:33

 I quoted the New Testament
“For by a man came death: and by a man the resurrection of the dead. And as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all shall be made alive” (1 Cor. 15:21-22).

Quid repeated his Old Testament quote and made an infantile statement.

I quoted proof that the New Testament completes and supercedes the Old Testament.

The Old Testament declares that man was separated from God through sin (Genesis chapter 3), and the New Testament declares that man can now be restored in his relationship to God (Romans chapters 3-6).

Hebrews 8:7, "For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second." 8:13, "In that He ( God) says, " A new covenant," He has made the fist obsolete.

Quid pretended not to hear the truth that “In Adam all die” and jumped over to this thread.

Your exegesis is wrong, woman.

1 Cor. 15: 21-22 means the first person to die is Adam, a man, but the person responsible for his death (and the death of all mankind) is Eve as told in Ecclesiasticus 25:33

Eve sinned first and corrupted Adam to sin, but Adam was the first person to die, just as men, today, generally have shorter life spans due to bearing more physical labors (one of the consequences of original sin) than women (they have their own consequences intrinsic to them).

Your citing of Genesis 3 and Hebrews 8 is mere padding, and it's absolutely void of supporting your argument that "man (Adam) is the cause of original sin and the fall of nature".

You lose, again, woman.