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Offline theology101

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What does this mean please?
« on: May 06, 2012, 01:56:03 AM »
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  • I was reading about the Confraternity of the Holy Rosary and it said under the indulgences section:

    Both partial and plenary indulgences can always be applied to the dead, but only by way of suffrage.

    What does that mean? Rather what does suffrage mean in this context? I thought it meant voting rights lol.  I would like to start applying indulgences to my departed mother, so I need to know what this means.


    Offline LordPhan

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    What does this mean please?
    « Reply #1 on: May 06, 2012, 04:28:12 AM »
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  • I will attempt to answer your question.

    Lets get the first and most often touchy point out of the way.

    If you are damned you cannot be saved. Indulgences do not take away Mortal Sins, they take away punishments due in purgatory.

    So assuming the person you want to help is in purgatory and not in hell, you can say Rosaries for their intentions and perform acts of penance in their name to help them reach heaven faster.

    Most Orders share in their prayers with their dead as well.


    Offline Neil Obstat

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    What does this mean please?
    « Reply #2 on: May 06, 2012, 08:59:51 AM »
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  • If you see a word that's confusing, look it up.
    From dictionary.reference.com ............

    suf·frage
       [suhf-rij] Show IPA
    noun
    1.
    the right to vote, especially in a political election.
    2.
    a vote given in favor of a proposed measure, candidate, or the like.
    3.
    Ecclesiastical . a prayer, especially a short intercessory prayer or petition.
    Origin:
    1350–1400; Middle English  < Latin suffr&#257;gium  voting tablet, vote, equivalent to Latin suffr&#257;g ( &#257;r&#299; ) to vote for, support + -ium -ium

    The connotation you quote obviously has nothing to do with voting, and is regarding church, or "ecclesiastical" matters (ecclesia is church, as in extra ecclesiam nulla salus).

    One good trick is to replace the word with its definition, and then read the sentence again:

    Both partial and plenary indulgences can always be applied to the dead, but only by way of a prayer, especially a short intercessory prayer or petition.

    Hope that helps.  
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    Offline Sigismund

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    What does this mean please?
    « Reply #3 on: May 06, 2012, 09:58:59 AM »
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  • With a little effort, you might be able to make that more condescending...
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

    Offline Neil Obstat

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    What does this mean please?
    « Reply #4 on: May 07, 2012, 12:55:01 PM »
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  • No condescension intended.

    Sorry you see it that way.

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