Catholic Info

Traditional Catholic Faith => General Discussion => Topic started by: InfiniteFaith on May 16, 2014, 12:27:11 AM

Title: What does the SSPX stand for?
Post by: InfiniteFaith on May 16, 2014, 12:27:11 AM
I have been on this site for a while now, and have gathered that we stand for...

1) Anti-Semetism
2) Anti-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity
3) Validity of the Sacraments
4) Anti-Heresy in the Novus Ordo
5) Anti-Modernism
6) Anti-Liberalism

Are there any other things or have I nailed the most important issues that the SSPX challenges the Novus Ordo on? Do I have any misunderstandings on what the SSPX stands for thus far?

Also, what does the SSPX hold on issues such as Catholic Supremacism, Christian Identity, and Private Revelation (speaking in tongues and prophecy)? Does the SSPX reject these concepts or does it embrace them?
Title: What does the SSPX stand for?
Post by: TKGS on May 16, 2014, 08:15:14 AM
Quote from: InfiniteFaith
I have been on this site for a while now, and have gathered that we stand for...

1) Anti-Semetism
2) Anti-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity
3) Validity of the Sacraments
4) Anti-Heresy in the Novus Ordo
5) Anti-Modernism
6) Anti-Liberalism

Are there any other things or have I nailed the most important issues that the SSPX challenges the Novus Ordo on? Do I have any misunderstandings on what the SSPX stands for thus far?

Also, what does the SSPX hold on issues such as Catholic Supremacism, Christian Identity, and Private Revelation (speaking in tongues and prophecy)? Does the SSPX reject these concepts or does it embrace them?


I think you are mistaken on number 1 above.  While I have seen a few people on this site who could be classified as "αnтι-ѕємιтєs", that certainly does not describe most traditional Catholics or the SSPX.  Desiring the conversion and salvation of Jews does not make one an "αnтι-ѕємιтє", nor does recognizing the reality of the ongoing conspiracy against the Church.

Numbers 2, 4, 5, and 6 could be rolled up into "anti-evil", which, of course, traditional Catholics should be; and, of course, all Catholics should stand for number 3, but the Conciliar sect has little interest in it.

I'm not sure what you mean by most of the issues in your last paragraph except that most traditional Catholics, including the SSPX, accept truly approved private revelations.

This site is also fairly tolerant of idiotic vanity threads being started.
Title: What does the SSPX stand for?
Post by: Ladislaus on May 16, 2014, 08:31:32 AM
Anti-Semitism is a completely false charge.  Anti-Judaism, yes.  Anti-Semitism, no.  This has nothing to do with race.  Our Lord, Our Blessed Mother, the Apostles, the first Christians; they were all descendants of Abraham.  Most modern-day Jews aren't even Semites.
Title: What does the SSPX stand for?
Post by: Neil Obstat on May 16, 2014, 10:39:02 AM
.

Question:  What does the SSPX stand for?

Answer:  "The SSPX" stands for "The Society of Saint Pius X" (X = 'tenth').  

Quote from: TKGS

This site is also fairly tolerant of idiotic vanity threads being started.



How about idiotic vanity posts, like this one?  HAHAHAHAHAHA


.
Title: What does the SSPX stand for?
Post by: crossbro on May 16, 2014, 10:45:57 AM

αnтι-ѕємιтє ?

Are you saying that like it is a bad thing ?

I have nothing against Jews, but I do not believe they are exclusively God's people.

In the minds of the Jews they are God's people and the rest of us are fair game.
Title: What does the SSPX stand for?
Post by: crossbro on May 16, 2014, 10:46:58 AM
Quote from: Neil Obstat
.

Question:  What does the SSPX stand for?

Answer:  "The SSPX" stands for "The Society of Saint Pius X" (X = 'tenth').  

Quote from: TKGS

This site is also fairly tolerant of idiotic vanity threads being started.



How about idiotic vanity posts, like this one?  HAHAHAHAHAHA


.


I am only vain when I stare at myself in the mirror.... naked.
Title: What does the SSPX stand for?
Post by: Neil Obstat on May 16, 2014, 10:50:23 AM
Quote from: InfiniteFaith
I have been on this site for a while now, and have gathered that we stand for...

1) Anti-Semetism   ------------------------ [it's anti-Semitism, actually]
2) Anti-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity
3) Validity of the Sacraments
4) Anti-Heresy in the Novus Ordo
5) Anti-Modernism
6) Anti-Liberalism

Are there any other things or have I nailed the most important issues that the SSPX challenges the Novus Ordo on? Do I have any misunderstandings on what the SSPX stands for thus far?

Also, what does the SSPX hold on issues such as Catholic Supremacism, Christian Identity, and Private Revelation (speaking in tongues and prophecy)? Does the SSPX reject these concepts or does it embrace them?


So you think you've "nailed the most important issues?"

When have you heard the SSPX challenging the NovusOrdo on anti-Semitism?  

Do you know what anti-Semitism is?  

When have you heard the SSPX challenging the NovusOrdo on anti-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity?

When have you heard the SSPX challenging the NovusOrdo on validity of the sacraments?

When have you heard the SSPX challenging the NovusOrdo on anti-heresy in the NovusOrdo?  

When have you heard the SSPX challenging the NovusOrdo on anti-Modernism or anti-Liberalism?  

Since when does private revelation have anything to do with "speaking in tongues?"

.
Title: What does the SSPX stand for?
Post by: Neil Obstat on May 16, 2014, 10:52:27 AM
Quote from: crossbro

I am only vain when I stare at myself in the mirror.... naked.



Lucky dog.   :sad:

.
Title: What does the SSPX stand for?
Post by: Cantarella on May 16, 2014, 11:02:46 AM
Quote from: Ladislaus
Anti-Semitism is a completely false charge.  Anti-Judaism, yes.  Anti-Semitism, no.  This has nothing to do with race.  Our Lord, Our Blessed Mother, the Apostles, the first Christians; they were all descendants of Abraham.  Most modern-day Jews aren't even Semites.


True
Title: What does the SSPX stand for?
Post by: crossbro on May 16, 2014, 11:13:36 AM
Quote from: Neil Obstat
Quote from: crossbro

I am only vain when I stare at myself in the mirror.... naked.



Lucky dog.   :sad:

.


I seriously hope no ne asks me to back that up, otherwise I am going to have to do some serious photo shopping.
Title: What does the SSPX stand for?
Post by: InfiniteFaith on May 16, 2014, 05:35:09 PM
Quote from: Neil Obstat
Quote from: InfiniteFaith
I have been on this site for a while now, and have gathered that we stand for...

1) Anti-Semetism   ------------------------ [it's anti-Semitism, actually]
2) Anti-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity
3) Validity of the Sacraments
4) Anti-Heresy in the Novus Ordo
5) Anti-Modernism
6) Anti-Liberalism

Are there any other things or have I nailed the most important issues that the SSPX challenges the Novus Ordo on? Do I have any misunderstandings on what the SSPX stands for thus far?

Also, what does the SSPX hold on issues such as Catholic Supremacism, Christian Identity, and Private Revelation (speaking in tongues and prophecy)? Does the SSPX reject these concepts or does it embrace them?


So you think you've "nailed the most important issues?"

When have you heard the SSPX challenging the NovusOrdo on anti-Semitism?  

Do you know what anti-Semitism is?  

When have you heard the SSPX challenging the NovusOrdo on anti-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity?

When have you heard the SSPX challenging the NovusOrdo on validity of the sacraments?

When have you heard the SSPX challenging the NovusOrdo on anti-heresy in the NovusOrdo?  

When have you heard the SSPX challenging the NovusOrdo on anti-Modernism or anti-Liberalism?  

Since when does private revelation have anything to do with "speaking in tongues?"

.


From the way some people talk here I thought these were all issues that the SSPX has with the Novus Ordo.

I thought that private revelation was pretty much anything outside of scripture that is "of God" or "of the Holy Spirit".

I do know that the Anti-Definition league classifies the SSPX as being "Anti-Semetic". There must be a reason for that. Not to mention, this site was supposedly created to talk about Jєωιѕн domination cօռspιʀαcιҽs and such.
Title: What does the SSPX stand for?
Post by: InfiniteFaith on May 16, 2014, 05:39:33 PM
Quote from: TKGS
Quote from: InfiniteFaith
I have been on this site for a while now, and have gathered that we stand for...

1) Anti-Semetism
2) Anti-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity
3) Validity of the Sacraments
4) Anti-Heresy in the Novus Ordo
5) Anti-Modernism
6) Anti-Liberalism

Are there any other things or have I nailed the most important issues that the SSPX challenges the Novus Ordo on? Do I have any misunderstandings on what the SSPX stands for thus far?

Also, what does the SSPX hold on issues such as Catholic Supremacism, Christian Identity, and Private Revelation (speaking in tongues and prophecy)? Does the SSPX reject these concepts or does it embrace them?


I think you are mistaken on number 1 above.  While I have seen a few people on this site who could be classified as "αnтι-ѕємιтєs", that certainly does not describe most traditional Catholics or the SSPX.  Desiring the conversion and salvation of Jews does not make one an "αnтι-ѕємιтє", nor does recognizing the reality of the ongoing conspiracy against the Church.

Numbers 2, 4, 5, and 6 could be rolled up into "anti-evil", which, of course, traditional Catholics should be; and, of course, all Catholics should stand for number 3, but the Conciliar sect has little interest in it.

I'm not sure what you mean by most of the issues in your last paragraph except that most traditional Catholics, including the SSPX, accept truly approved private revelations.

This site is also fairly tolerant of idiotic vanity threads being started.


What made you bring up vanity? I hope you don't think that I am guilty of that.
Title: What does the SSPX stand for?
Post by: Nadir on May 16, 2014, 06:08:36 PM
Quote from: InfiniteFaith
I have been on this site for a while now, and have gathered that we stand for...

1) Anti-Semetism
2) Anti-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity
3) Validity of the Sacraments
4) Anti-Heresy in the Novus Ordo
5) Anti-Modernism
6) Anti-Liberalism

Are there any other things or have I nailed the most important issues that the SSPX challenges the Novus Ordo on? Do I have any misunderstandings on what the SSPX stands for thus far?

Also, what does the SSPX hold on issues such as Catholic Supremacism, Christian Identity, and Private Revelation (speaking in tongues and prophecy)? Does the SSPX reject these concepts or does it embrace them?


IF, you seem to be saying that this site (we) represents SSPX. Many here have no attachment to SSPX. My understanding is that this site is for traditional Catholics. Besides, I don't think you can say much about what SSPX stands for in view of its gaping divisions.

So are you referring to SSPX or to this website?

I would agree that this website is generally described in the points 2) to 6). I would certainly accept those as referring to me personally.

But 1) definitely not. I love semitic folk.

I think you are wrongly equating the word semitic with judaic; that is a mistake and the cause of much misunderstanding. After all, as has been stated here many of today's Jews are not semitic, and many non-jews are semitic.

What we are against here is the denial that Jews need conversion to the Catholic Faith in order to be saved. This is in no way defined as anti-semitism

Title: What does the SSPX stand for?
Post by: InfiniteFaith on May 16, 2014, 06:30:45 PM
Quote from: Nadir
Quote from: InfiniteFaith
I have been on this site for a while now, and have gathered that we stand for...

1) Anti-Semetism
2) Anti-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity
3) Validity of the Sacraments
4) Anti-Heresy in the Novus Ordo
5) Anti-Modernism
6) Anti-Liberalism

Are there any other things or have I nailed the most important issues that the SSPX challenges the Novus Ordo on? Do I have any misunderstandings on what the SSPX stands for thus far?

Also, what does the SSPX hold on issues such as Catholic Supremacism, Christian Identity, and Private Revelation (speaking in tongues and prophecy)? Does the SSPX reject these concepts or does it embrace them?


IF, you seem to be saying that this site (we) represents SSPX. Many here have no attachment to SSPX. My understanding is that this site is for traditional Catholics. Besides, I don't think you can say much about what SSPX stands for in view of its gaping divisions.

So are you referring to SSPX or to this website?

I would agree that this website is generally described in the points 2) to 6). I would certainly accept those as referring to me personally.

But 1) definitely not. I love semitic folk.

I think you are wrongly equating the word semitic with judaic; that is a mistake and the cause of much misunderstanding. After all, as has been stated here many of today's Jews are not semitic, and many non-jews are semitic.

What we are against here is the denial that Jews need conversion to the Catholic Faith in order to be saved. This is in no way defined as anti-semitism



Fair enough. I suppose i was wrong to assume that this site is specifically for the SSPX.

Yes, what I should have said was Anti-Jєωιѕн instead of Anti-Semetic. Its just that I ran across the ADL page for the SSPX and they classify the SSPX as being Anti-Semetic.
Title: What does the SSPX stand for?
Post by: Matto on May 16, 2014, 06:33:28 PM
Quote from: InfiniteFaith
Yes, what I should have said was Anti-Jєωιѕн instead of Anti-Semetic. Its just that I ran across the ADL page for the SSPX and they classify the SSPX as being Anti-Semetic.


According to the ADL if you believe the Jews need to convert to be saved, you are anti-semitic. So then God is anti-semitic.
Title: What does the SSPX stand for?
Post by: Sigismund on May 16, 2014, 09:19:57 PM
Quote from: Neil Obstat
.

Question:  What does the SSPX stand for?

Answer:  "The SSPX" stands for "The Society of Saint Pius X" (X = 'tenth').  

Quote from: TKGS

This site is also fairly tolerant of idiotic vanity threads being started.



How about idiotic vanity posts, like this one?  HAHAHAHAHAHA


.


Darn!  You beat me to it.  
Title: What does the SSPX stand for?
Post by: Matthew on May 17, 2014, 12:32:42 AM
Quote from: crossbro

αnтι-ѕємιтє ?

Are you saying that like it is a bad thing ?

I have nothing against Jews, but I do not believe they are exclusively God's people.

In the minds of the Jews they are God's people and the rest of us are fair game.


Indeed.

http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/What-the-Jews-say-about-other-races-direct-quotes
Title: What does the SSPX stand for?
Post by: Neil Obstat on May 17, 2014, 02:53:23 AM
.

I was trying to do you a favor, to help you keep from embarrassing yourself with your consistent misspellings, but it's not working so well, is it -- until this post:

Quote from: InfiniteFaith
Quote from: Neil Obstat
Quote from: InfiniteFaith
I have been on this site for a while now, and have gathered that we stand for...

1) Anti-Semetism   ------------------------ [it's anti-Semitism, actually]
2) Anti-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity
3) Validity of the Sacraments
4) Anti-Heresy in the Novus Ordo
5) Anti-Modernism
6) Anti-Liberalism

Are there any other things or have I nailed the most important issues that the SSPX challenges the Novus Ordo on? Do I have any misunderstandings on what the SSPX stands for thus far?

Also, what does the SSPX hold on issues such as Catholic Supremacism, Christian Identity, and Private Revelation (speaking in tongues and prophecy)? Does the SSPX reject these concepts or does it embrace them?


So you think you've "nailed the most important issues?"

When have you heard the SSPX challenging the NovusOrdo on anti-Semitism?  

Do you know what anti-Semitism is?  

When have you heard the SSPX challenging the NovusOrdo on anti-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity?

When have you heard the SSPX challenging the NovusOrdo on validity of the sacraments?

When have you heard the SSPX challenging the NovusOrdo on anti-heresy in the NovusOrdo?  

When have you heard the SSPX challenging the NovusOrdo on anti-Modernism or anti-Liberalism?  

Since when does private revelation have anything to do with "speaking in tongues?"

.


From the way some people talk here I thought these were all issues that the SSPX has with the Novus Ordo.

I thought that private revelation was pretty much anything outside of scripture that is "of God" or "of the Holy Spirit".

I do know that the Anti-Definition league..


I take back everything I've said about you, InfiniteFaith.  

Because you are a genius.  



From henceforth, the ADL shall be known as the Anti-Definition League.




Brilliant!  




Quote
..classifies the SSPX as being "Anti-Semetic". There must be a reason for that. Not to mention, this site was supposedly created to talk about Jєωιѕн domination cօռspιʀαcιҽs and such.


The Anti-Definition League classifies the SSPX, by what, their own anti-definition?  Okay, then why should anyone care what they're not defining this time?  Ignore them.

.
Title: What does the SSPX stand for?
Post by: Neil Obstat on May 17, 2014, 03:03:03 AM
Quote from: Matthew
Quote from: crossbro

αnтι-ѕємιтє ?

Are you saying that like it is a bad thing ?

I have nothing against Jews, but I do not believe they are exclusively God's people.

In the minds of the Jews they are God's people and the rest of us are fair game.


Indeed.

http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/What-the-Jews-say-about-other-races-direct-quotes


How can you remain so calm at a time like this, Matthew?  

I'm glad that crossbro made that post because if I had made it, it would have said,

...αnтι-ѕємιтє?  Are you saying that like it is a bad thing?  I have nothing against Jews, but I don't believe they're exclusively God's people.  

They don't even have Baptism!  Nonetheless, in the minds of the Jews, they are God's people
and the rest of us are fairly goyim.  

.
Title: What does the SSPX stand for?
Post by: Neil Obstat on May 19, 2014, 11:22:39 AM
.

What, you're not a Jew?  

Well, then here's some beans in your Goya face:

(http://www.goofoods.com/file/upload/201208/14/15-19-21-42-8.png)

.