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Offline InfiniteFaith

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What does the SSPX stand for?
« on: May 16, 2014, 12:27:11 AM »
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  • I have been on this site for a while now, and have gathered that we stand for...

    1) Anti-Semetism
    2) Anti-Homosexuality
    3) Validity of the Sacraments
    4) Anti-Heresy in the Novus Ordo
    5) Anti-Modernism
    6) Anti-Liberalism

    Are there any other things or have I nailed the most important issues that the SSPX challenges the Novus Ordo on? Do I have any misunderstandings on what the SSPX stands for thus far?

    Also, what does the SSPX hold on issues such as Catholic Supremacism, Christian Identity, and Private Revelation (speaking in tongues and prophecy)? Does the SSPX reject these concepts or does it embrace them?

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    « Reply #1 on: May 16, 2014, 08:15:14 AM »
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  • Quote from: InfiniteFaith
    I have been on this site for a while now, and have gathered that we stand for...

    1) Anti-Semetism
    2) Anti-Homosexuality
    3) Validity of the Sacraments
    4) Anti-Heresy in the Novus Ordo
    5) Anti-Modernism
    6) Anti-Liberalism

    Are there any other things or have I nailed the most important issues that the SSPX challenges the Novus Ordo on? Do I have any misunderstandings on what the SSPX stands for thus far?

    Also, what does the SSPX hold on issues such as Catholic Supremacism, Christian Identity, and Private Revelation (speaking in tongues and prophecy)? Does the SSPX reject these concepts or does it embrace them?


    I think you are mistaken on number 1 above.  While I have seen a few people on this site who could be classified as "anti-Semites", that certainly does not describe most traditional Catholics or the SSPX.  Desiring the conversion and salvation of Jews does not make one an "anti-Semite", nor does recognizing the reality of the ongoing conspiracy against the Church.

    Numbers 2, 4, 5, and 6 could be rolled up into "anti-evil", which, of course, traditional Catholics should be; and, of course, all Catholics should stand for number 3, but the Conciliar sect has little interest in it.

    I'm not sure what you mean by most of the issues in your last paragraph except that most traditional Catholics, including the SSPX, accept truly approved private revelations.

    This site is also fairly tolerant of idiotic vanity threads being started.


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    « Reply #2 on: May 16, 2014, 08:31:32 AM »
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  • Anti-Semitism is a completely false charge.  Anti-Judaism, yes.  Anti-Semitism, no.  This has nothing to do with race.  Our Lord, Our Blessed Mother, the Apostles, the first Christians; they were all descendants of Abraham.  Most modern-day Jews aren't even Semites.

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    « Reply #3 on: May 16, 2014, 10:39:02 AM »
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    Question:  What does the SSPX stand for?

    Answer:  "The SSPX" stands for "The Society of Saint Pius X" (X = 'tenth').  

    Quote from: TKGS

    This site is also fairly tolerant of idiotic vanity threads being started.



    How about idiotic vanity posts, like this one?  HAHAHAHAHAHA


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    « Reply #4 on: May 16, 2014, 10:45:57 AM »
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  • Anti-semite ?

    Are you saying that like it is a bad thing ?

    I have nothing against Jews, but I do not believe they are exclusively God's people.

    In the minds of the Jews they are God's people and the rest of us are fair game.


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    « Reply #5 on: May 16, 2014, 10:46:58 AM »
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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat
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    Question:  What does the SSPX stand for?

    Answer:  "The SSPX" stands for "The Society of Saint Pius X" (X = 'tenth').  

    Quote from: TKGS

    This site is also fairly tolerant of idiotic vanity threads being started.



    How about idiotic vanity posts, like this one?  HAHAHAHAHAHA


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    I am only vain when I stare at myself in the mirror.... naked.

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    « Reply #6 on: May 16, 2014, 10:50:23 AM »
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  • Quote from: InfiniteFaith
    I have been on this site for a while now, and have gathered that we stand for...

    1) Anti-Semetism   ------------------------ [it's anti-Semitism, actually]
    2) Anti-Homosexuality
    3) Validity of the Sacraments
    4) Anti-Heresy in the Novus Ordo
    5) Anti-Modernism
    6) Anti-Liberalism

    Are there any other things or have I nailed the most important issues that the SSPX challenges the Novus Ordo on? Do I have any misunderstandings on what the SSPX stands for thus far?

    Also, what does the SSPX hold on issues such as Catholic Supremacism, Christian Identity, and Private Revelation (speaking in tongues and prophecy)? Does the SSPX reject these concepts or does it embrace them?


    So you think you've "nailed the most important issues?"

    When have you heard the SSPX challenging the NovusOrdo on anti-Semitism?  

    Do you know what anti-Semitism is?  

    When have you heard the SSPX challenging the NovusOrdo on anti-homosexuality?

    When have you heard the SSPX challenging the NovusOrdo on validity of the sacraments?

    When have you heard the SSPX challenging the NovusOrdo on anti-heresy in the NovusOrdo?  

    When have you heard the SSPX challenging the NovusOrdo on anti-Modernism or anti-Liberalism?  

    Since when does private revelation have anything to do with "speaking in tongues?"

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    « Reply #7 on: May 16, 2014, 10:52:27 AM »
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    I am only vain when I stare at myself in the mirror.... naked.



    Lucky dog.   :sad:

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    « Reply #8 on: May 16, 2014, 11:02:46 AM »
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    Anti-Semitism is a completely false charge.  Anti-Judaism, yes.  Anti-Semitism, no.  This has nothing to do with race.  Our Lord, Our Blessed Mother, the Apostles, the first Christians; they were all descendants of Abraham.  Most modern-day Jews aren't even Semites.


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    « Reply #9 on: May 16, 2014, 11:13:36 AM »
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    I am only vain when I stare at myself in the mirror.... naked.



    Lucky dog.   :sad:

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    I seriously hope no ne asks me to back that up, otherwise I am going to have to do some serious photo shopping.

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    « Reply #10 on: May 16, 2014, 05:35:09 PM »
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    Quote from: InfiniteFaith
    I have been on this site for a while now, and have gathered that we stand for...

    1) Anti-Semetism   ------------------------ [it's anti-Semitism, actually]
    2) Anti-Homosexuality
    3) Validity of the Sacraments
    4) Anti-Heresy in the Novus Ordo
    5) Anti-Modernism
    6) Anti-Liberalism

    Are there any other things or have I nailed the most important issues that the SSPX challenges the Novus Ordo on? Do I have any misunderstandings on what the SSPX stands for thus far?

    Also, what does the SSPX hold on issues such as Catholic Supremacism, Christian Identity, and Private Revelation (speaking in tongues and prophecy)? Does the SSPX reject these concepts or does it embrace them?


    So you think you've "nailed the most important issues?"

    When have you heard the SSPX challenging the NovusOrdo on anti-Semitism?  

    Do you know what anti-Semitism is?  

    When have you heard the SSPX challenging the NovusOrdo on anti-homosexuality?

    When have you heard the SSPX challenging the NovusOrdo on validity of the sacraments?

    When have you heard the SSPX challenging the NovusOrdo on anti-heresy in the NovusOrdo?  

    When have you heard the SSPX challenging the NovusOrdo on anti-Modernism or anti-Liberalism?  

    Since when does private revelation have anything to do with "speaking in tongues?"

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    From the way some people talk here I thought these were all issues that the SSPX has with the Novus Ordo.

    I thought that private revelation was pretty much anything outside of scripture that is "of God" or "of the Holy Spirit".

    I do know that the Anti-Definition league classifies the SSPX as being "Anti-Semetic". There must be a reason for that. Not to mention, this site was supposedly created to talk about jewish domination conspiracies and such.


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    « Reply #11 on: May 16, 2014, 05:39:33 PM »
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    I have been on this site for a while now, and have gathered that we stand for...

    1) Anti-Semetism
    2) Anti-Homosexuality
    3) Validity of the Sacraments
    4) Anti-Heresy in the Novus Ordo
    5) Anti-Modernism
    6) Anti-Liberalism

    Are there any other things or have I nailed the most important issues that the SSPX challenges the Novus Ordo on? Do I have any misunderstandings on what the SSPX stands for thus far?

    Also, what does the SSPX hold on issues such as Catholic Supremacism, Christian Identity, and Private Revelation (speaking in tongues and prophecy)? Does the SSPX reject these concepts or does it embrace them?


    I think you are mistaken on number 1 above.  While I have seen a few people on this site who could be classified as "anti-Semites", that certainly does not describe most traditional Catholics or the SSPX.  Desiring the conversion and salvation of Jews does not make one an "anti-Semite", nor does recognizing the reality of the ongoing conspiracy against the Church.

    Numbers 2, 4, 5, and 6 could be rolled up into "anti-evil", which, of course, traditional Catholics should be; and, of course, all Catholics should stand for number 3, but the Conciliar sect has little interest in it.

    I'm not sure what you mean by most of the issues in your last paragraph except that most traditional Catholics, including the SSPX, accept truly approved private revelations.

    This site is also fairly tolerant of idiotic vanity threads being started.


    What made you bring up vanity? I hope you don't think that I am guilty of that.

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    « Reply #12 on: May 16, 2014, 06:08:36 PM »
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  • Quote from: InfiniteFaith
    I have been on this site for a while now, and have gathered that we stand for...

    1) Anti-Semetism
    2) Anti-Homosexuality
    3) Validity of the Sacraments
    4) Anti-Heresy in the Novus Ordo
    5) Anti-Modernism
    6) Anti-Liberalism

    Are there any other things or have I nailed the most important issues that the SSPX challenges the Novus Ordo on? Do I have any misunderstandings on what the SSPX stands for thus far?

    Also, what does the SSPX hold on issues such as Catholic Supremacism, Christian Identity, and Private Revelation (speaking in tongues and prophecy)? Does the SSPX reject these concepts or does it embrace them?


    IF, you seem to be saying that this site (we) represents SSPX. Many here have no attachment to SSPX. My understanding is that this site is for traditional Catholics. Besides, I don't think you can say much about what SSPX stands for in view of its gaping divisions.

    So are you referring to SSPX or to this website?

    I would agree that this website is generally described in the points 2) to 6). I would certainly accept those as referring to me personally.

    But 1) definitely not. I love semitic folk.

    I think you are wrongly equating the word semitic with judaic; that is a mistake and the cause of much misunderstanding. After all, as has been stated here many of today's Jews are not semitic, and many non-jews are semitic.

    What we are against here is the denial that Jews need conversion to the Catholic Faith in order to be saved. This is in no way defined as anti-semitism


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    « Reply #13 on: May 16, 2014, 06:30:45 PM »
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    Quote from: InfiniteFaith
    I have been on this site for a while now, and have gathered that we stand for...

    1) Anti-Semetism
    2) Anti-Homosexuality
    3) Validity of the Sacraments
    4) Anti-Heresy in the Novus Ordo
    5) Anti-Modernism
    6) Anti-Liberalism

    Are there any other things or have I nailed the most important issues that the SSPX challenges the Novus Ordo on? Do I have any misunderstandings on what the SSPX stands for thus far?

    Also, what does the SSPX hold on issues such as Catholic Supremacism, Christian Identity, and Private Revelation (speaking in tongues and prophecy)? Does the SSPX reject these concepts or does it embrace them?


    IF, you seem to be saying that this site (we) represents SSPX. Many here have no attachment to SSPX. My understanding is that this site is for traditional Catholics. Besides, I don't think you can say much about what SSPX stands for in view of its gaping divisions.

    So are you referring to SSPX or to this website?

    I would agree that this website is generally described in the points 2) to 6). I would certainly accept those as referring to me personally.

    But 1) definitely not. I love semitic folk.

    I think you are wrongly equating the word semitic with judaic; that is a mistake and the cause of much misunderstanding. After all, as has been stated here many of today's Jews are not semitic, and many non-jews are semitic.

    What we are against here is the denial that Jews need conversion to the Catholic Faith in order to be saved. This is in no way defined as anti-semitism



    Fair enough. I suppose i was wrong to assume that this site is specifically for the SSPX.

    Yes, what I should have said was Anti-Jewish instead of Anti-Semetic. Its just that I ran across the ADL page for the SSPX and they classify the SSPX as being Anti-Semetic.

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    « Reply #14 on: May 16, 2014, 06:33:28 PM »
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    Yes, what I should have said was Anti-Jewish instead of Anti-Semetic. Its just that I ran across the ADL page for the SSPX and they classify the SSPX as being Anti-Semetic.


    According to the ADL if you believe the Jews need to convert to be saved, you are anti-semitic. So then God is anti-semitic.
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