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Offline BTNYC

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Re: What does it take to be a good husband, ladies?
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2018, 10:12:43 AM »
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  • Why "Vintagewife3" and not "Modernwife1?"



    Offline Vintagewife3

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    Re: What does it take to be a good husband, ladies?
    « Reply #16 on: December 01, 2018, 10:28:48 AM »
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  • Because I’m not a feminist. It’s what works in our marriage. 


    Offline Cantarella

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    Re: What does it take to be a good husband, ladies?
    « Reply #17 on: December 01, 2018, 11:15:50 AM »
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  • I suspect that women are not the best source of information on this topic.  Women can tell you what we like but what we like is not always what is best for us.  A husband and father needs to do what is best for his family, but his family will not always like it at the time.  There have been many times when letting me have my own way would not have been good for me or the family.  Being a good husband sometimes means saying no.

    Asking what traits women find attractive in a man has nothing to do with how a man should exert his authority in the home. There are two different topics. As I said in the other threat, I believe that if your intention is to marry one day and build a successful family, then you better learn and pay very close attention to what the opposite sex wants.
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

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    Re: What does it take to be a good husband, ladies?
    « Reply #18 on: December 01, 2018, 11:38:39 AM »
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  • Vintagewife, your reply to the thread about wives is the spark that got me to post this. Could you maybe expand on your reply in this thread?  

    And now you know why she probably didn't expand sooner.  And probably why many women won't respond to this thread.

    Because, based on most male replies, it will be less about what makes a good husband and more about criticizing the female posters here.
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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    Re: What does it take to be a good husband, ladies?
    « Reply #19 on: December 01, 2018, 11:57:28 AM »
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  • 1- First and foremost, a man who truly professes the Catholic Faith: This is a man who will most likely know beforehand what is expected of him in Marriage and most importantly, will carry on his duties and responsibilities steadily, until the very end. He will not divorce or limit his family size. He will avoid all evil in his life, such as occasions of sin, and also assure that his family attends Mass and practice the Faith,  he will practice conjugal chastity and fidelity, etc. All this he will do out of deep religious convictions and sincere love for God.  

    2- A man with a strong work ethic. This is a man who is able to hold a job, and wake up every day in the morning to go work hard to provide well for his family. This is a diligent man who gets things done, as opposed to a lazy child-man who wants do nothing but playing video games all day, and expect his wife to work. This man is usually ambitious (in a good way) and has the stamina to carry on with his goals and gets his projects accomplished. This man is a doer, instead of a dreamer. Also, he needs to be generous with his resources, and not stingy. Stinginess in men is a red-flag and a deal-breaker.  

    3- A man to look up to. This man is strong. He will not melt down when problems arise, but all the family can cling to him for guidance and support. He will not be a drama queen or emotionally unstable. He will not exhibit effeminate behaviors such as complaining and blaming others for his failures. He will not be a coward, but have the ability and desire to sacrifice for the good of his family. This man solves problems. Men who women sincerely admire, are able to exert their authority over them much easily, not having to recourse to any type of harshness.  

    4- A man who does not have addictions. (I probably should have put this one in the top). Addictions are univocal signs of weakness of character, at the very least. There are addictions which are also signs of perversions and deep spiritual disturbances. You don't want a man who is addicted to drugs, alcohol, pornography, gambling, cigarettes, etc. Addictions are emasculating and a terrible example for your children.

    Other traits that I consider good, although not necessary, are knowing how to fix and build things. It is great when a man knows how to fix things around the house or perform car maintenance (it's even better when you don't have to remind him of doing so, but he does it on his own!). Also, having a good sense of humor. It makes it for a very enjoyable company when a man makes you laugh.  
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.


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    Re: What does it take to be a good husband, ladies?
    « Reply #20 on: December 01, 2018, 12:19:19 PM »
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  • I think that's an excellent start Cantarella.

    I would add:

    5.  Principles.  He has principles and he abides by them.  Even if it means a pay reduction, or being ostracized by family/friends.  If a man is going to waffle on important issues...is he really that strong?  I want my husband to be a martyr, if need be.  A man with strong principles would certainly die defending his faith!

    6.  Leadership.  It's an art being a good leader and not a complete dictator!  Sometimes it is necessary for a man to say "This is how it is.  Period."  But he should also remember that when female emotions and children are concerned, sometimes gentle guidance is more prudent.  A man who inspires those to follow him through fire and water will be sure to raise fine, strong Catholic sons and daughters.

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    Re: What does it take to be a good husband, ladies?
    « Reply #21 on: December 01, 2018, 12:24:32 PM »
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  • Canterelle, those are all good ones! Especially work ethic, and being handy! 

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    Re: What does it take to be a good husband, ladies?
    « Reply #22 on: December 01, 2018, 02:11:50 PM »
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  • Most importantly, and above all else husbands need to be the leaders in the family’s spiritual life. We live in a time of spiritual ware fare, and every army needs a leader. Learn your faith, go to church, pray the family rosary, and bible study.
    Yes, leaders.  Having said that, both spouses are supposed to help each other get to Heaven.  Therefore, both should look out for each other and offer spiritual guidance if the other is doing something sinful, etc. Maybe I'm wrong but I'm fairly certain that it is the other's "business"....husband or wife. 
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)


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    Re: What does it take to be a good husband, ladies?
    « Reply #23 on: December 01, 2018, 03:14:50 PM »
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  • And now you know why she probably didn't expand sooner.  And probably why many women won't respond to this thread.

    Because, based on most male replies, it will be less about what makes a good husband and more about criticizing the female posters here.

    No, that was about our rejection of some suggestions regarding ideal manhood.  In fact, what was being described more resembled what has been described as a "beta cuck" who actually exhibits many feminine behaviors.

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    Re: What does it take to be a good husband, ladies?
    « Reply #24 on: December 01, 2018, 03:44:51 PM »
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  • Also, he needs to be generous with his resources, and not stingy. Stinginess in men is a red-flag and a deal-breaker.  

    Everything else in the article was pretty spot-on, but why generosity in particular? What if he errs a bit on the frugal side?

    This point sounds a bit convenient, a bit biased, because it would be a very beneficial virtue for the woman who is on the receiving end! She might say, "he better blow a lot of money on me during courtship, or else he's stingy and that's a deal breaker."

    What's the line between generosity in this context, and prodigality (the opposite of stingy) with one's money?

    How would a young single woman know the difference between "he just wants to not waste his money, he's saving up for a house", and "he's Ebeneezer Scrooge"?
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    Re: What does it take to be a good husband, ladies?
    « Reply #25 on: December 01, 2018, 03:51:49 PM »
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  • He most certainly does.
    You're right on this, Ladislaus.
    After the Fall, God imposed punishments as follows:

    1. For the man, he would have to work.

    2. For the woman, she would have to bear children with inconvenience, pain, and suffering. Furthermore, since she first hearkened to the serpent and caused Adam's downfall, she received a further punishment: she would be under the authority of her husband.

    It's all right there in Genesis! Why do many Catholics, and even some Trad Catholics, not get this? Why do they doubt the clear text right there in Sacred Scripture? Entire communities and compounds full of fundamentalist protestants (Mormons, Southern Baptists, "Hebrew Israelites", etc.) get it just fine.

    To go against any of these punishments is to sin against God, Who imposed them.

    Thus women who want to avoid children, not to be Religious nuns, but to avoid suffering and have more fun/convenience, are putting themselves at high risk of losing their souls. Many women are sanctified through childbirth (and the other mortifications associated with motherhood). Likewise, feminists cast off the other punishment, which allows their pride to have free reign. Between these two, they have almost no chance of salvation.

    Of course, men who don't work and just play all day are similarly putting their salvation in jeopardy.
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    Re: What does it take to be a good husband, ladies?
    « Reply #26 on: December 01, 2018, 04:50:42 PM »
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  • No, that was about our rejection of some suggestions regarding ideal manhood.  In fact, what was being described more resembled what has been described as a "beta cuck" who actually exhibits many feminine behaviors.

    My husband would be the furthest thing from that 🙄.

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    Re: What does it take to be a good husband, ladies?
    « Reply #27 on: December 01, 2018, 05:25:20 PM »
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  • Everything else in the article was pretty spot-on, but why generosity in particular? What if he errs a bit on the frugal side?

    This point sounds a bit convenient, a bit biased, because it would be a very beneficial virtue for the woman who is on the receiving end! She might say, "he better blow a lot of money on me during courtship, or else he's stingy and that's a deal breaker."

    What's the line between generosity in this context, and prodigality (the opposite of stingy) with one's money?

    How would a young single woman know the difference between "he just wants to not waste his money, he's saving up for a house", and "he's Ebeneezer Scrooge"?
    There is a difference between stingy and frugal.  My husband is the latter.
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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    Re: What does it take to be a good husband, ladies?
    « Reply #28 on: December 02, 2018, 08:52:10 PM »
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  • Like I said it depends for each marriage. But I’m also in the minority here by believing he, and I are equals. 
    This is what St John Chrysostom,  has to say in Homily 34 on First Corinthians.

    "Equality is known to produce strife. Therefore God allowed the human race to be a monarchy, not a democracy. And the family is constructed in a similar way to a monarch’s army, with the husband holding the rank of monarch, the wife as general, and the children also given stations of command."

    meaning you are not equal partners but complementary partners.

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    Husbands should also remember the kids are a joint responsibility. They means feeding, cleaning, and caring. 
    The husband's responsibility for his children does not involve feeding, cleaning and caring in a normal balanced family situation.
    His role revolves around providing for his children with commanding authority and  providing the material and spiritual goods required for the life of the family. Of course. if he sees his wife struggling to perform what is her role of feeding, cleaning, caring, he will take some action to help alleviate her distress in whatever way he is able. 
    But basically woman is made to be man's helper, not vice versa.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    Re: What does it take to be a good husband, ladies?
    « Reply #29 on: December 09, 2018, 06:20:05 PM »
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  • I just want a Catholic husband. One who loves me and will lay down his life for me. That is best for me. I don’t need to be the boss. I just need to look up to my husband and know he will take care of us. Please, just give us that.