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Offline Renzo

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« on: February 22, 2013, 12:41:04 AM »
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    « Reply #1 on: February 22, 2013, 05:05:17 PM »
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  • 1. Kids, eliminate the need for adult friends, this is especially positive if your grown up friends like to drink a lot or spend a lot of their free time playing video games. With grown up friends you sometimes have to do what they want to do but with kids you get to choose whatever activities you want and they have to participate.

    2. We are designed to have kids. Most people I know who haven't had kids by their mid-thirties are suffering from arrested development, playing videos games, searching online dating sites etc. Of course not everyone is like this, I'm just saying having kids can eliminate some behavior left over from your teenage years.


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    « Reply #2 on: February 22, 2013, 05:31:16 PM »
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  • A very thought-provoking movie, Demographic Winter, is now free on the Internet.

    http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=lZeyYIsGdAA&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DlZeyYIsGdAA


    Here's the description from Amazon.com:


    "Demographic Winter DVD by Rick Stout A ground breaking film that will change the way you think about economics and children. This video draws upon voices from all around the world and experts from many different disciplines - demographers, economists, sociologists, psychologists, civic and religious leaders, parliamentarians and diplomats. Together, they reveal in chilling soberness the dangers facing society and the world's economies, dangers far more imminent than global warming and at least as severe. (2008, 54min.)"


    "Most Helpful Customer Reviews
    38 of 41 people found the following review helpful
    5.0 out of 5 stars A truly enlightening look at world population!!! January 8, 2009
    By " Anti Microchip " VINE™ VOICE
    DVD: Demographic Winter

    The premise of this documentary is that population in the civilized world is in decline. Population is expanding because were getting older (not dying) not because of births. This of course is going to bite us on our rear end. Why? Here are some points the documentary to illustrate this:

    1. Japans economy fell as their population aged. The older people retired and didn't spend as much. Consumer spending drives an economy.

    2. Europe is having serious population depletion right now. There are countries giving out subsidies to encourage people to breed. It's a huge problem.

    3. Russia's population is declining by 700,000 a year and they too are encouraging people to breed.

    4. The least populated areas of the world are the ones that are some of the least environmentally friendly.

    5. The world economy will be drastically impacted by western population decline. Where China and other countries will be impacted at first they will have the population to recover. We won't.

    6. The baby boomers are going to retire soon. Then you will have more people collecting benefits like social security and medicare then supporting it (a reverse pyramid). This will crush our economy... So you can look forward to: 1. Increase of age limits to retire, 2. increase taxes on those still working, 3. a decrease in benefits...

    7. One of the biggest problems is the destruction of the family. Our children are being raised in broken homes. I can't begin to do this part of the movie justice. You really have to see it to appreciate it. In the end this is about the world we are leaving our children. Many movements (environmental, exc.) have stated increasing population as one of the evils of the world (and against their movement). This documentary (if looked at honestly) will challenge many of these assumptions and force them to come up with a more honest platform. It's not that some of these issues are not real; it's just that the resources are being misused to blame things that are in truth NOT THE PROBLEM... Without young people new technology won't be made, new ideas won't be as plentifull. These are serious issues one should take a look at. Please watch this documentary. You may not agree with them but it will challenge some of your beliefs.

    Lastly, do watch all the way through the ending credits. There's a little something at the end."

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    We found this movie to be quite sobering.



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    « Reply #3 on: February 22, 2013, 05:59:07 PM »
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  • I'll definitely watch that later

    This blog is a bit log but I thought it was worth reading, hits a lot of important points.

    Planned Parenthood to South Korea: Oops, We Destroyed You! Sorry!
    July 3, 2009, 9:27 am


    In the astonishingly frank 2009 interview linked here, the head of Korean Planned Parenthood , Mr. Choi Seon-jeony, details the depth of Korea’s depopulation crisis and the transformation it has wreaked upon Planned Parenthood itself. Go read it, but if you don’t have time, you will find a short summary below. The reader may notice inconsistencies in the summary; they are present in the original.

    Here is a summary of Mr. Choi Seon-jeony’s words:

    In the 1960′s the Korean government, through Planned Parenthood of Korea, began to implement the one child per family policy, as ‘economic development.’ We were very successful. Now, as a result, Korea has the lowest birth rate and the fastest aging rate in the world. Population growth will reach 0% in 2019 but will continue to fall and turn into negative growth. The working age population will begin to fall in 2019. At the same time, the aging of workers will sharply increase.

    We started in the sixties with a birth rate of 6.1 per couple. It is now 1.19. We made a mistake. We should have stopped the campaign when the rate was 2.1 births per couple. We should have changed our policy. But we didn’t. Now our people, especially our women, do not want to get married! They want’ relationships’ and not children!

    We must completely change our society to persuade them. We have to have various and flexible working arrangements where women feel comfortable about child-bearing and also can work from home, if they wish. We must make it cheaper to have children. We must make all education free, and must pay a child allowance, and reduce working hours.

    Sometimes family planning means to reduce the number of children born, and sometimes to reduce the number could be inappropriate. When there are too few children, to bear and raise more children will contribute to our happiness, and so family planning will be changed accordingly. That is why we changed our name. We are no longer the Family Planning Association. We are now the Planned Population Federation. We will promote child-bearing and child-rearing, make efforts to prevent abortion, and cooperate with religious circles.

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    So Planned Parenthood Korea has added some Praying? Well, we have lived to see the day!

    Unfortunately for Korea, Mr. Choi’s economic plan is as naive as one might expect from a person with a background in murder. Sweden, for example, already tried all the inducements he mentioned. They have (at enormous expense!) arranged flextime, free education, a child allowance, and even more enticing inducements.  The jury is out, however, because the country has rebounded to 2.1, but apparently only due to the birthrate of immigrants. Discounting Muslim immigration, the Swede birthrate appears to be 1.6, unchanged from before all the natalist policy initiatives already mentioned and even more, like 115% of pay for fifteen months for each child.  Bear in mind that Swedish women have a higher educational level than Swedish men, and typically hold some of the highest-paid employment not only in Sweden, but in Europe.  One must figure the 115% on those salaries. Ouch!

    An economist might know, if Mr. Choi does not, that inducements like these must be paid for, and without a fall in profits; that  means either more production from more workers or higher productivity from each worker. Either option during a period of falling labor force and rising costs is, simply put, impossible. When Japan tried to increase productivity from each worker, roboticizing to a degree unknown in the manufacturing world and since imitated in the US, the last word on the street, Wall Street that is, by a US diplomat, was that they had even  “put the cats to work,’ to no great effect on the bottom line.  And of course the former option is out–they have fewer workers every year, every month, every hour–Japan is dying. It is agonizing to watch.

    Mr. Choi is in for a few unpleasant surprises in those ‘religious circles,’ too! He will find some other requirements, not just stopping abortion, but other requirements that co-incidentally and necessarily go along with a high, healthy birth rate. He will find Korea must promote a traditional definition of marriage that specifies reproduction as its purpose, not mutual pleasure. Not benefits. Not even companionship. Babies.

    This rules out gay marriage. It rules out easy divorce, because women reproduce the best in stable relationships. Masturbation and porn would go back in the shadows, since  it was found, by none other than a condom manufacturer, that these are the chief factors in Japan’s national failure to engage in intercourse. Japanese men have become addicted to solitary pleasure.

    If Planned Parenthood thinks, then, that all it has to do is change its name, they’d best think again. Their data apparently shows that Korean women ‘got it.’ They learned to value a career over marriage, they learned to defer marriage, to get that education first, to get that career.

    They learned not to want marriage, according to many Japanese social commentators. Oh, a ‘relationship’ is okay, but no thanks to that marriage thing and that children thing. Most of all, like their counterparts from Manhattan to Hong Kong, they learned to live to shop.

    They had to be carefully taught! Planned Parenthood had that down to a science.

    There had to be poster contests and popular songs, back in those early days of the one child per family push. Every guidance office in the country had to have a  twenty-four by thirty-six display right by the door, each with the same message: ‘What do you call a pregnant teenager? Stupid.’ Planned Parenthood supplies them by the thousands around the world, in all languages, with all kinds of girls, brown and white and semi golden ones, all looking stupid, and embarrassed, and pregnant. The horror!

    Mr. Choi does not seem to appreciate the difficulty of the task of undoing that attitude. He appears not to understand that it’s very easy to promote sin, in this case easy sex, and very hard to promote virtue, in this case life-long monogamous marriage accompanied by reproductive sex and high-quality parenting, and, speaking just for the West where Planned Parenthood is about due to wake up any minute now–it took two thousand years for the Church to build a culture where just exactly that kind of love and marriage had even a prayer of a chance, and not even in every home, but in just enough homes to produce the high quality workers and creators and inventors that built the West.

    And only a couple of generations under Planned Parenthood’s tutelage to wreck it.

    Here’s a little news flash for Mr. Choi and all his ilk: the film Motherhood starring Uma Thurman and Minnie Driver, reliable box-office draws, is all about making the role popular. When it opened in March in the UK–one person showed up. It made $12 at the boxoffice, according to National Public Radio.

    No, Mr. Choi has no appreciation of the situation he’s in. Oh, he knows he’s got one last chance: a precious cohort of twenty to thirty year olds who have to reproduce or the game is up for Korea. If they don’t have a child now, right now, they won’t have a second child. Korea’s survival is in the second and third child.  If this cohort waits until they’re thirty to have that first child, Mr. Choi already knows, there’ll be no second. The numbers are exactly the same around the world. And so the clock is ticking. And if he misses it with this cohort, Korea’s population will be cut in half, as if overnight. And the other half a whole decade older. Too late, too late, too late! One generation to go, until it all topples over. Mr. Choi figures he’ll learn what to say at the end, though, as he goes along, hanging out in those confounded ‘religious circles.’

    So anyone can see it’s quite tricky.  Because the thing is, that precious cohort, they’re not even listening to Mr. Choi. They’re on the internets with the digital ghost of the old Planned Parenthood (although there is now a new formal group of gynecologists in Korea who are refusing to perform abortions; there is that, but too little, too late as well).

    Teachers know this stuff, Mr. Choi does not. Teachers know it is very hard to rehabilitate what you have made taboo. There are sociologists who say it’s impossible. It’s very hard to unteach a girl who swears that she would ‘rather die than have a baby,’ the attitude the liberal-fascist media first whipped up to legalize abortion. (Cf: see comment section here and try not to cry, I dare you )  And even if birth control were suddenly, overnight, unavailable, and if abortions were made illegal again, then our new  women would do as women did for thousands of years before the Church won that critical ancient battle against world-wide infanticide: they will leave their children on the mountain to die.  Or in the dumpster.  The Church patiently taught women to value motherhood and faithful love above all other attributes. They did it by law, by punishment, by reward, by literature, by song, by example, by the promise of either eternal paradise or eternal burning, and with great perseverance in prayer. They did it without ever stoning a single woman. And now Planned Parenthood has casually undone it. For the ‘freedom’ of women to kill their children and go back to work that very same day at their thrilling jobs at the stocking counter at Macy’s.

    No society on earth in ever recovered from a birth rate lower than 1.5 when disease or disaster wiped out fertility, as best historians can piece it out from the evidence. It is debatable, using the results from Sweden’s recent initiative, whether the best efforts in the world by one of the richest countries in the world have reversed the trend, have stimulated a higher birth rate among their middle-class indigenous population. It would be easy to interpret the data, but Sweden, at the same time they began their pro-natalist policies, facilitated mass immigration, and presently, in typical excess of political correctness, refuse to tease out of theirofficial birth rate the figures that would reveal the impact of the much higher birth rates of their Muslim immigrants (which will not help the overall picture, because demographic research suggests the higher Muslim birthrate will, in any case, disappear in one generation, as the girls of the new immigrants eventually see the ugly poster in the guidance office). In any case it is evident that while Sweden got itself back to the barest, most basic, no-growth reproduction of the population, to 2.1, substantial anecdotal evidence suggests it’s not Swedish girls doing the reproducing, and thus it has not been proven that Planned Parenthood Sweden’s oopsy can actually be reversed among indoctrinated women, not in Sweden and not in any population. Reversed in time, that is. And the thing is, there’s not much time. The world can go to hell in two generations if we refuse to reproduce.

    There’s never been such a catastrophe deliberately risked by a few fools’ version of choice, before.

    It took all the pride and lust that we could muster.

    Update in 2012:  Apparently Mr. Choi very predictably missed the boat. The new fertility number released by the Korean government is not the magic 2.1 of bare reproduction, but a death-spiral 1.23 per couple of Koreans, and it is given as one of the official reasons,  with ‘ruined internal markets’ (simply a result of the low birth rate) and the ‘over-reliance on exports’ (the only tactic left when you’ve killed your birth rate!) low-birth rate being the seminal one, for the fact that economists like Paul Krugman  now say Korea has officially entered a ‘low-growth phase.’  None of their current presidential candidates on tghe right or on the left make demographics a central issue, though (rather like Obama and Romney!), and are not receiving good advice from other countries who have not even kicked Planned Parenthood or their economy-killing strategy out; the  Washington-based Center for Stratetic and International Studies gave Korea this typically contradictory liberal non-speak: “South Korea stands little chance of climbing the economic ladder if it continues to mint more retirees but few babies.  It badly needs to encourage more participation of women in the workforce. Too many talented women are left in the kitchen.”

    Still don’t get the picture, do they?! That you have to induce women to go back to the kitchen and nursery, or die. Well, which is it, boys?

    Offline ggreg

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    « Reply #4 on: February 23, 2013, 06:22:31 PM »
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  • They can scratch your head or back, get your slippers, bring you a cup of tea in bed, run up stairs to get your mobile phone and 1000 other small tasks.

    Mine are very useful.


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    « Reply #5 on: February 23, 2013, 06:47:37 PM »
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  • Well, being a mother of 10, I can tell you that there are many benefits.

    My kids are close
    Kids are structured and have good work ethic  They all work hard.
    Some are very attentive to me.  By birthdays and Christmas bring a volume of gifts and good wishes.
    I always have one or more who interact with me all the time
    I can live close to three of them now, and they help me a lot
     :dancing:

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    « Reply #6 on: February 25, 2013, 02:03:30 AM »
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  • Great posts so far!  

    "Social science may suggest that kids drain their parents' happiness, but there's evidence that good parenting is less work and more fun than people think. Bryan Caplan makes the case for having more children."

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704289504575313201221533826.html
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    « Reply #7 on: February 25, 2013, 05:08:17 AM »
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  • Our toughest time was when we had 1 child, once number two got big enough to play they just entertained each other. But more than that, the first child is really hard to teach  because there is not a lot of stimulation, there wasn't in our house at the time anyway. In fact, we planned to homeschool from the start but our first one didn't seem to be talking much so we put her in a pre-school and she started to talk away almost instantly, but number two was talking away really early because of her older sister. My sister who is on her fourth experienced the same thin,  they had an awful time teaching the first one how to skate, (canada) they put him in expensive lessons etc. But the third little guy they hardly tought him anything, he's skating away and he's only 3, but he learned just by hanging with his older brothers.



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    « Reply #8 on: February 25, 2013, 10:21:23 AM »
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  • We should always take a look at who is encouraging smaller families and ask why they are thinking this way?


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    « Reply #9 on: February 25, 2013, 12:17:41 PM »
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  • Because babies are so cute and precious at each stage of their life, they make you smile.  Some say when they are tiny, they step on your toes and when grown they step on your heart, but I didn't find that to be true.  

    I love raising my children, even as they turned into teens, yes, I worried, but the results are fantastic.  Now they take care of me, and I love it, all 6 of them, can't seem to do enough for me.

    They love each other, and are always there for each other, therefore when it is my turn to join my husband, I won't have to worry about them.  

    Having children is doing the Will of God, and bringing souls to Him, not only my children, but all the grandchildren that results from them, and now looking forward to the great grandchildren.

    If you want your children to remain close to God, and family;my advice is, in between each decade of your rosary, pray... 1. Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for my children...2. Immaculate Heart of Mary, protect my children... 3 Immaculate Heart of Mary, unite my family...4. Immaculate Heart of Mary sanctify my family, 5 Immaculate Heart of Mary hear my prayer.  

     

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