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We Believe! Why dont You?
« on: September 15, 2013, 07:36:57 AM »
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  • The following was posted by a 'Joseph" on this Link

    There is a lot to think about these days when Rome is said to be in heresy. One has to work things out for oneself with the faith that we have, the strength and amount of which varies with the individual Catholic. We have to do this now because all our teachers disagree with one another forming various groups to challenge those who oppose them.

    Today, we know that countless priests/brothers are/were pedophiles tolerated by Rome and allowed to continue bastardizing our children in the name of God. Worse, (unless you have the faith) they are not held to account, but protected and defended in civil courts.  So, I ask myself today, how do we ‘keep the faith’ when Catholics practise it differently? What is the faith now? How do we practise it? How do we keep it? Do we keep it like we used to before Vatican II or after Vat II.  If we keep the kind of faith after Vatican II then it is not the same as the one practised prior to that.

    The one prior to that was ‘kept’ and developed for over 2000 years, and countless martyrs were tortured and killed because they would not change a heartbeat of it. The new one since 1964 is in its babyhood and seems anybody can keep it. In this new one you only have to believe that Christ died for all your sins, took them on himself like a kind of whipping boy, and took them all away so that we needn’t be worried about sinning any more. If we ‘sin’ now, that’s fine, we don’t have to worry because, actually, since Christ has taken them all away through the Cross, then - well, he is God and we have an obligation to believe what he has done otherwise we DO sin don’t we? Anybody who tells us differently is lacking in the true faith! They still have the old faith. They can't let go. They refuse to grow.

    So those who killed the martyrs before 1964 were right. It was right that they tried to change the minds of the martyrs who would prevent them from liberating the people.

    Look, it speaks for itself - before Vat II there was all this talk of seeking mercy from God. What for I ask you? They were misguided who thought that way. They lacked the true full faith. Didn’t Christ say, ‘Forgive them Father for they know not what they do?’ We can’t be blamed any more, he was saying. If we sin it is not our fault if we were conceived and born with ‘sin’ already on our souls. He came to earth to tell us that. We didn’t know we were born into sin.. How good is a God who will become man to tell us this truth about which we were ignorant, then allow himself to be killed thus paying the price for it and what we cannot help but do (or did) before or after his sacrifice?

    How good is a God who will become man to tell us this?   And if you’re going to ask about injustice the answer is obvious.   It doesn't matter any more when Christ has paid the price. He is God, for heavens sake. He paid the price for the injustice of original sin. Can you beat that? It was not an injustice committed against God like they told you before Vat II.  It was an injustice against man.   The devil didn't want us to know that.  

    Injustice will gradually die out because there will be (is now?) no enmity between the three main religions. The Muslims will see they have nothing to fear from Christ because the Pope demonstrates such love for them. The Jєωs are going to convert in the end - St. Paul says so, so we just wait for that to happen. And Catholics of course will welcome Jєωs and Muslims just like their Pope does. The Pope is the ‘Vicar of Christ’ and carries the authority of God so whatever he says/believes will happen. He cannot err. We are beginning to see Paradise on earth. This is our faith!

    And Christ said, ‘Only God is good’ – so there you have it!  We are at peace because of our Faith.

    Conclusion: Vat. II was the new Springtime ‘they’ said it would be. Look at our Pope! Have you ever seen a happier man? He loves everyone and everyone loves him. That's wonderful! He will soon be recognised by the whole world!  He won't say 'No' if they try to make him king - mark my words!





    Read more: http://cor-mariae./thread/285/believe-why#ixzz2exlUM0oT
    "In His wisdom," says St. Gregory, "almighty God preferred rather to bring good out of evil than never allow evil to occur."


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    « Reply #1 on: September 15, 2013, 07:58:06 AM »
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  • The above links to cor-mariae work in the preview pane, but do not seem to work when posted.

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    Then go to the 'General' Board to find the post by 'Joseph'
    "In His wisdom," says St. Gregory, "almighty God preferred rather to bring good out of evil than never allow evil to occur."


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    « Reply #2 on: September 16, 2013, 03:32:53 PM »
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  • When Christ died, he opened the gates of heaven.  After his death, at his acension He instructed His apostles to forgive sin or hold them bond.  Man still sins and hell still remains to be true and existing.  The 10 commandments still hold.  Christ's Precious Blood is in All the Sacraments.  If we are to have the chance for heaven, we must have the Precious Blood in our veins being the Mystical Body of Christ.  Eat of HIm or no life.  All of these truths can not be over looked.  Matthew 24 and chapter 12 of Daniel tells us where we are in these most evilest of times.  The sacrifice will come to an end, The sacrifice of the Mass.  We are very close.

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    « Reply #3 on: September 16, 2013, 05:06:21 PM »
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  •  :heretic:The OP is heresy.  Even some Protestants reject what they call, "Once saved, always saved.". If only it were that easy!  Pray a prayer to invite Jesus into your heart, and you're in!  I tried it back in the 1980s.  It didn't work.  I fell into sin.  So I tried again.  Still didn't work.  Tried one last time and "went forward" to pray the magic prayer in public.  Fell right back into sin.  Someone was lying and I knew it wasn't me.  I was very sincere.  As for Jesus, He doesn't lie or mess with people's heads.  Sad, but tens of thousands of American Protestants live their whole lives trying to force 2 + 2 to equal 5.  Many KNOW their "faith" isn't working for them, but, like in the fable, everyone is afraid to state the obvious, "The emperor's got no clothes!"
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  

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    « Reply #4 on: September 16, 2013, 10:36:09 PM »
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  • Of course it is heresy!  But it is the Pope you have to tell!   'Joseph' summed it up very well that this is the new religion, the spirit of the new 'springtime'.  It is a frightening distortion of Christ's teaching.  It is worse than Protestantism.  There is nothing as evil as this sinning against the spirit.
    Our Shepherds justify this distortion in the name of Christ.  Of course you realise 'Joseph'
    is not propagating it, that he is clarifying it to help us realise what is happening.   If we do not understand the problem then we cannot know how to deal with it.

    I posted it because I really think nobody, except the resistance priests and Bishop Williamson know exactly what is happening.  They are giving their all to wake us up!  The neoSSPX no longer fights for the faith - for the Church.   Her priests practise 'quietism' and teach their laity to practice it also. SSPX-MC  are the only ones fighting for the Church.   The laity do not realise they have to join them by following through in the battle started by Archbishop Lefebvre.   This is not the time to sit back and wait for God to do something.  He is expecting us to decide whether we want the Church, and if we do then we fight!
    "In His wisdom," says St. Gregory, "almighty God preferred rather to bring good out of evil than never allow evil to occur."