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Offline Marys Anawim

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We are being lied to
« on: January 09, 2020, 10:03:09 AM »
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  • So I know many people here are very pro Trump...and I am pro Trump, but I do not ever want to trust so much in a person or regime or administration or anything that I become deceived. deception is the enemies number one tool. So I wanted to share some things that I have learned about the Iranian strike. If anyone listened to Trumps 9 minute address to the nation yesterday morning than you may have noticed how he sounded a bit different than usual. Perhaps not as confident. Well it turns out that ( I am not sure that President Trump was aware of , but now he most def is) Iran was giving a warning shot to the U.s. because the u.s. was not able to intercept the missiles with the current missile protection they have (I forget the name of it) and Iran hit a part of the embassy that was empty...it was warning the u.s. 
    Also China has been giving Iran secret weapons.
    Another thing was that Mike Pompeo said that Solamani was not for peace but that is not true...he was trying to have peace with the Saudi but it did not work out. 

    These are some things I have learned and wanted to share...think what you like but I believe we are being lied to about Iran and while I am not surprised I felt it important enough to share this info here.


    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: We are being lied to
    « Reply #1 on: January 09, 2020, 11:40:58 AM »
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  • That's a very good point that has been lost.  Why weren't our anti-missile defenses capable of intercepting these things?  Of the dozen or so missiles they launched, did we intercept ANY of them?  If we cannot intercept these, then were are seriously vulnerable to attack anywhere.


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    Re: We are being lied to
    « Reply #2 on: January 09, 2020, 12:04:26 PM »
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  • That's a very good point that has been lost.  Why weren't our anti-missile defenses capable of intercepting these things?  Of the dozen or so missiles they launched, did we intercept ANY of them?  If we cannot intercept these, then were are seriously vulnerable to attack anywhere.

    Why show our hand? Yes, we could have struck those incoming missiles, but then Iran would have retaliated with more missiles, and World War III would have begun.

    The USA was allowing Iran to let off some steam and mourn the loss of their military leaders as many of those in the Iranian militia are emotional hot heads.


    If Iran had wanted to take down those Iraqi bases, they could have, but then they would have inflamed not only Iraq and the USA, but also the RINOs and pro-war Military-Chemical-Pharmaceutical-Industrial Complex who want Iran obliterated, and who want an excuse to start World War III.
    Lord have mercy.

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    Re: We are being lied to
    « Reply #3 on: January 09, 2020, 12:27:56 PM »
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  • Why show our hand? Yes, we could have struck those incoming missiles, but then Iran would have retaliated with more missiles, and World War III would have begun.

    The USA was allowing Iran to let off some steam and mourn the loss of their military leaders as many of those in the Iranian militia are emotional hot heads.


    If Iran had wanted to take down those Iraqi bases, they could have, but then they would have inflamed not only Iraq and the USA, but also the RINOs and pro-war Military-Chemical-Pharmaceutical-Industrial Complex who want Iran obliterated, and who want an excuse to start World War III.
    Apparently Iran gave a warning to Iraq and they in turn to the U.S. that they were going to attack...which I think says a lot

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    Re: We are being lied to
    « Reply #4 on: January 09, 2020, 01:36:30 PM »
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  • Apparently Iran gave a warning to Iraq and they in turn to the U.S. that they were going to attack...which I think says a lot
    I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump signed off on it personally and said “fine, no U.S. casualties or we’ll be forced to retaliate.”  That’s no warning shot.  Trump is always a bit frazzled after a standoff.  I wouldn’t trust any leader who wasn’t.  He takes the lives of his soldiers and citizens seriously.  He stayed up all night getting reports from the ground. Who in their right mind wouldn’t be stressed after that?


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    Re: We are being lied to
    « Reply #5 on: January 09, 2020, 02:07:22 PM »
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  • 187 = Los Angeles Police Department code for murder.

    The most recent FOX news says that an Russian-made Iranian surface-to-air missile downed that 737, but I believe that this is disinformation to help Iran save face.

    Others at CI have raised a good point that perhaps a passenger on that fated Boeing 737 was a whistleblower who had dirty information on Hillary, Biden, Kerry, Obama, and others, and who could have been 187ed by those nasty Deep State politicians. That plane could have been shot down by anti-aircraft guns and then finished off by that Russian-made missile to ensure that no survivors survived.
    Lord have mercy.

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    Re: We are being lied to
    « Reply #7 on: January 09, 2020, 02:16:29 PM »
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  • Our country should be morning the death of our fellow Americans.  
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    Re: We are being lied to
    « Reply #8 on: January 09, 2020, 04:02:13 PM »
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  • https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2020/january/i-saw-qasem-soleimanis-brand-of-evil-firsthand-mdash-its-worse-than-you-could-possibly-imagine
    I honestly do not trust can...ever since I found out that Pat Robertson did/ said some things...I wish I could remember the details, but I don't...anyway he has some connections with the zionist (and freemasons if I'm not mistaken)...I no longer trust them as a reliable news source.

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    Re: We are being lied to
    « Reply #9 on: January 10, 2020, 01:10:14 AM »
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  • I honestly do not trust can...ever since I found out that Pat Robertson did/ said some things...I wish I could remember the details, but I don't...anyway he has some connections with the zionist (and freemasons if I'm not mistaken)...I no longer trust them as a reliable news source.

    I believe you are probably referring to this story here:https://people.com/archive/a-lawsuit-over-pat-robertsons-war-record-has-ex-marine-pete-mccloskey-fighting-mad-vol-29-no-10/  (McCloskey served quite honorably as a Marine Corps Officer in combat.) I remember it well when it went down.

    I was in Vietnam when a personal friend of mine Charles "Rocky" Saxbe was also serving over there.  His father at the time was a U.S. Senator from Ohio who later became the U.S. Attorney General and still later the Ambassador to India.  Saxbe was a 2nd and then a 1st Lt. in Vietnam and he served honorably in combat as a rifle platoon commander in the !st Regiment of the 1st Marine Division. in addition to his service on the ground Saxbe did some time as a forward air observer on an OV-10 Bronco aircraft in Vietnam.


    A Lawsuit Over Pat Robertson's War Record Has Ex-Marine Pete Mccloskey Fighting Mad
    By William Plummer and Dirk Mathison
    March 14, 1988 12:00 PM


    The newly minted officers aboard the U.S.S. Breckinridge didn’t know whether to take the affable young marine seriously or not. It was January 1951, and they were on their way to the fighting in Korea. In the ship’s wardroom, 20-year-old Marion G. “Pat” Robertson, a second lieutenant straight out of officer’s training at Quantico, Va., was telling them that his father, A. Willis Robertson, was a U.S. Senator from Virginia and that he was going to have Pat reassigned. Sure enough, when the First Marine Division docked in Kobe, Japan, Robertson, his college buddy Edwin Gaines and four other young officers were taken off the ship and detailed to Otsu—ostensibly to train soldiers coming off the front lines.

    Such, at least, is the recollection of Paul “Pete” McCloskey, a former seven-term Republican Congressman from Northern California who was one of the young marines on the Breckinridge. “The most distinct memory I have of all this,” says McCloskey, 60, “is Pat standing on the dock at Kobe with this big grin on his face, saying, ‘So long, you guys—good luck.’ ” That memory was vividly revived years later when Robertson, by then a well-known TV evangelist, began making public reference to being a combat veteran. Says McCloskey, a decorated Marine officer who was wounded in action in Korea, “I don’t condemn Robertson for what he did 37 years ago, but I sure as hell don’t like him lying about it now.”

    Last year, after McCloskey began sharing his recollections with the press, Robertson retaliated with a $35 million libel suit. The case was scheduled to begin before a Washington, D.C., judge on Super Tuesday, but last week, Robertson moved to dismiss the suit rather than have it open on the day of the presidential primaries in his southern strongholds.

    For Robertson, the timing could hardly have been worse. With the electorate already primed to distrust TV preachers, Robertson conceded that his suit may have been “a bad idea” but insisted it was a matter of “personal honor.” A President’s duties include “the sending of boys into battle, sometimes to their death,” Robertson noted on the day he sued. “No man can serve in that capacity with an unresolved cloud over his own…military service.” In a pretrial deposition, Robertson said he never asked his father for any special consideration affecting his Marine Corps service. “There are things that are, in my estimation, dishonorable,” he said, “namely, getting favors to keep one out of combat. I wouldn’t have done it.”

    Yet McCloskey’s lawyer later produced letters to and from Senator Robertson regarding his son’s military status. In one, the elder Robertson thanked Gen. Lemuel Shepherd, the Marine Corps commandant, for “your encouraging message concerning Pat…. I am happy he will get some more training before engaging in combat.” In another, the Senator passed on the general’s good news to Ed Gaines’s father, Dr. Francis P. Gaines, then president of Washington and Lee University in Lexington, Va. “Pat and Edwin will be going to an interesting and historical part of Japan,” he assured his friend, who replied, in an informal note, “ shall always be grateful for everything you’ve done.”

    McCloskey said he was surprised by Robertson’s suit and maintained that the story of the Senator’s string-pulling was well known among Marine officers in Korea. The ex-Congressman never thought to retail it for a larger audience until 1981, he said, when he saw Pat Robertson on TV’s 700 Club. “He was talking about Congress being soft on Communism,” said McCloskey. Piqued by the discrepancy between the preacher’s gung-ho anti-Communism on television and his purported evasive action in Korea, McCloskey proceeded to take the matter up with reporters. An article about McCloskey’s allegations ran in the Los Angeles Times and brought a firm letter of denial from Robertson. There the matter lay until August 1986, when Democratic Congressman Andrew Jacobs of Indiana, concerned about Robertson’s possible presidential bid, asked his friend McCloskey to detail the charges against the TV minister. McCloskey wrote a six-page letter that Jacobs released to the media. Eight weeks later, Robertson sued both men, though the case against Jacobs was dismissed by the court.

    It now appears that Robertson underestimated McCloskey’s sense of offended honor. Inviting bankruptcy by spending $400,000 in his own defense, McCloskey tracked down several of the men who served with Robertson. Others came forward when they read about the suit. These men confirmed, in sworn depositions, that Robertson never saw combat and spent much of his tour in Masan, Korea, keeping the bar well-stocked at the officers’ club. Paul William Brosman Jr., a second lieutenant who served with Robertson there, also testified under oath that Robertson was “inconsiderate” of a 19-year-old Korean barracks maid—pinching her and carrying on in public even though she was obviously unreceptive and terrified that other Koreans would conclude she was a prostitute. “She would plead with him to stop,” said Brosman, “and he wouldn’t stop. None of the rest of us would have done that. [We knew that] the prostitutes were dead meat when we left because they had ruined their lives to make money off the Americans.” Robertson’s lawyer, Joel Leising, asked Brosman whether he recalled any specific conversations with the future minister in Korea. “Well, yeah,” said Brosman, a retired linguistics professor in New Orleans. “He was scared to death he had gonorrhea….”

    Perhaps the strongest testimony—the “smoking gun,” McCloskey called it—was that of Lt. Col. Good Burleson, who was a liaison officer in Tokyo in 1951. Burleson, now 76 and retired, said last week that he remembered a dispatch from Marine command concerning the son of a Virginia legislator (whose name he couldn’t recall).The politician, said Burleson, was worried that “had not had sufficient combat training to go to Korea” and asked that he be taken off the ship. “I sort of resented it,” recalled Burleson, “because I felt that he probably got as much training as the other lieutenants on the ship, and I didn’t like for a Congressman’s [sic] son to get preferential treatment.” At the time, it was highly unusual for a second lieutenant in Korea not to see combat duty; of the 71 officers aboard the Breckinridge, more than half were killed or wounded in Korea.

    With such embarrassing charges likely to be brought out in court, Robertson had an obvious motive for asking Judge Joyce Green to dismiss his suit. McCloskey said he would agree to a dismissal only if Robertson were to pay McCloskey’s legal costs and to retract the charge of libel, neither of which seemed probable. Indeed McCloskey said he would countersue, if necessary, to recover his costs.

    Of Robertson’s request to dismiss the suit McCloskey says, “I’m not backing off. In Philadelphia [Robertson] said I was a pathological liar. I’d just as soon let a jury decide that.”

    —By William Plummer, with Dirk Mathison in San Francisco

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    Re: We are being lied to
    « Reply #10 on: January 10, 2020, 04:56:32 AM »
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  • Missile defense systems are designed to protect continental United States.


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    « Reply #14 on: January 10, 2020, 05:51:45 AM »
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  • Christians including Catholics are being persecuted in Iran.  They are being tortured and put death especially converts.  

    You are being lied to.  When Christians are being persecuted or Americans are being targeted not a peep from from media, Nancy Peℓσѕι or Hollywood.  Both Democrats and moslems are getting money from moslem terrorist groups.  

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