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Offline theology101

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Was Third Secret of Fatima really about JP2?
« on: July 16, 2012, 05:39:59 PM »
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  • I searched for stuff about Fatima but only found things denying it. If the Fatima apparitions are true, then is the third secret actually about JP2? I know this is the official line, but if JP2 was in error or an antipope, how could Our Lady have been referring to him? I think it might actually refer to a future pope, a real one, who will be murdered by the Zionist nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr for breaking their Noachide law by worshiping Christ (which they believe is blasphemy and idolatry.)

    H.J.RES.104 -- To designate March 26, 1991, as `Education Day, U.S.A.'. (Enrolled Bill [Final as Passed Both House and Senate] - ENR)

    --H.J.Res.104--

    H.J.Res.104


    One Hundred Second Congress of the United States of America

    AT THE FIRST SESSION
    Begun and held at the City of Washington on Thursday, the third day of January,

    one thousand nine hundred and ninety-one

    Joint Resolution

    To designate March 26, 1991, as `Education Day, U.S.A.'.

    Whereas Congress recognizes the historical tradition of ethical values and principles which are the basis of civilized society and upon which our great Nation was founded;

    Whereas these ethical values and principles have been the bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization, when they were known as the Seven Noahide Laws;

    Whereas without these ethical values and principles the edifice of civilization stands in serious peril of returning to chaos;

    Whereas society is profoundly concerned with the recent weakening of these principles that has resulted in crises that beleaguer and threaten the fabric of civilized society;

    Whereas the justified preoccupation with these crises must not let the citizens of this Nation lose sight of their responsibility to transmit these historical ethical values from our distinguished past to the generations of the future;

    Whereas the Lubavitch movement has fostered and promoted these ethical values and principles throughout the world;

    Whereas Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, leader of the Lubavitch movement, is universally respected and revered and his eighty-ninth birthday falls on March 26, 1991;

    Whereas in tribute to this great spiritual leader, `the rebbe', this, his ninetieth year will be seen as one of `education and giving', the year in which we turn to education and charity to return the world to the moral and ethical values contained in the Seven Noahide Laws; and

    Whereas this will be reflected in an international scroll of honor signed by the President of the United States and other heads of state: Now, therefore, be it

    Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That March 26, 1991, the start of the ninetieth year of Rabbi Menachem Schneerson, leader of the worldwide Lubavitch movement, is designated as `Education Day, U.S.A.'. The President is requested to issue a proclamation calling upon the people of the United States to observe such day with appropriate ceremonies and activities.
    Speaker of the House of Representatives.

    Vice President of the United States and

    President of the Senate.


    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c102:H.J.RES.104.ENR:


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    Was Third Secret of Fatima really about JP2?
    « Reply #1 on: July 17, 2012, 09:22:27 PM »
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  • In my opinion 3rd secret was not about JPII.  Not for the reason that some think (he was an anti-pope), I don't believe that.  He was validly elected and a rightful successor to St. Peter as is Benedict XVI.  

    There are things revealed in the vision the Vatican released that don't line up with the pontificate of JPII.  The most glaring being that of the Holy Father fleeing a big city half in ruins with the bodies of his fellow Bishops, Priests,etc.  While JPII was alive the predicted conditions in the world were not nearly as dire as they are now.  Except for a couple of attempts on his life, JPII enjoyed relative peace and security.  Although there has always existed persecutions of the faithful throughout the entire history of the Church, the persecution and martyrdom of the faithful described in the vision hasn't occurred since the Reign of Terror and the Bolshevik Revolution.  The vision clearly describes a horrific persecution of the Church is destined to happen in the future.

    I strongly believe that the Holy Father in this prophecy is about either Pope Benedict XVI or his immediate successor.  Depending how you interpret the revelations that were given to Pope St. Pius X it could refer to either Pope.  St. Pius X's given name was Giuseppe Melchiorre Sarto.  Giuseppe translated into English is Joseph.  Or it could be a future Pope who takes the name Pius.

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    Pope St. Pius X, E Supremi, Encyclical On the Restoration of All Things in Christ, n. 3, 5; October 4th, 1903.

    “What I have seen is terrifying! Will I be the one, or will it be a successor? What is certain is that the Pope will leave Rome and, in leaving the Vatican, he will have to pass over the dead bodies of his priests! Do not tell anyone this while I am alive.”

    Pope St. Pius X, during an audience for the general chapter of the Franciscan order in 1909, appeared to enter a trance. Those present remained motionless and silent. After a few moments, Pius X opened his eyes, rose from his seat, and spoke the above words.

    “I have seen one of my successors, of the same name, who was fleeing over the dead bodies of his brethren. He will take refuge in some hiding place; but after a brief respite, he will die a cruel death. Respect for God has disappeared from human hearts. They wish to efface even God’s memory. This perversity is nothing less than the beginning of the last days of the world.”

    Pope St. Pius X had another vision just before his death. Note that the English name of Italian Pope St. Pius X is Joseph, which is the same for German Pope Benedict XVI.



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    Was Third Secret of Fatima really about JP2?
    « Reply #2 on: July 18, 2012, 03:14:57 AM »
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  • Quote from: rowsofvoices9
    In my opinion 3rd secret was not about JPII.  Not for the reason that some think (he was an anti-pope), I don't believe that.  He was validly elected and a rightful successor to St. Peter as is Benedict XVI.  

    There are things revealed in the vision the Vatican released that don't line up with the pontificate of JPII.  The most glaring being that of the Holy Father fleeing a big city half in ruins with the bodies of his fellow Bishops, Priests,etc.  While JPII was alive the predicted conditions in the world were not nearly as dire as they are now.  Except for a couple of attempts on his life, JPII enjoyed relative peace and security.  Although there has always existed persecutions of the faithful throughout the entire history of the Church, the persecution and martyrdom of the faithful described in the vision hasn't occurred since the Reign of Terror and the Bolshevik Revolution.  The vision clearly describes a horrific persecution of the Church is destined to happen in the future.

    I strongly believe that the Holy Father in this prophecy is about either Pope Benedict XVI or his immediate successor.  Depending how you interpret the revelations that were given to Pope St. Pius X it could refer to either Pope.  St. Pius X's given name was Giuseppe Melchiorre Sarto.  Giuseppe translated into English is Joseph.  Or it could be a future Pope who takes the name Pius.


    http://endtimeslion.com/?p=221


    ThTs weird that he was named Joseph, too, though its a popular Christian name. If Benedict's successor is also a Joseph, that would make me think.

    Side note, is it weird that Ive always thought if i become pope (lol never happen just rhetorical) that Id choose the name Sixtus?

    Then I would be Sixtus the Sixth.