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Offline Miseremini

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Was it really a Miracle?
« on: October 12, 2017, 02:52:27 PM »
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    Was it a Miracle?
     
    It's noon,  Oct 13 A.D. 1917,.....the place...Cova Da Iria near Fatima Portugal.
     
    70,000 people have arrived.  It's raining, and the 70,000 people are wet to the skin;  their numbers have turned the soaked field into a sea of puddles and mud.
     
    Most, are devout Catholics coming to honour the Queen of Heaven and witness the "SIGN" she months before had promised for this day and hour.  Some came hoping for a personal healing of body, mind or soul.
     
    And there were others:  The looky loos, the curious, minor gov't officials, police, newspaper reporters and their photographers;.........oh, the photographers,....... thank God for the photographers !  the few priests,..the very few priests, the learned and the peasant alike and of course the pick pockets.
     
    The children tell us that when Our Lady appeared the rain stopped.
    Shortly after a conversation between Our Lady and the children the waited for "SIGN" for the people started.
     
    I'm not concerned with describing the "SIGN" but with the resulting facts around it.
     
    The "SIGN" lasted 8 to 10 minutes
     
    The people were soaked; they weren't wearing drip dry polyester....they were wearing wool, cotton, linen or homespun.....all of which absorbed and held the rain.
     
    Yet after those 8 to 10 minutes their clothes, hair and belongings were perfectly dry.
    8 to 10 minutes and the puddles and mud in which they stood and knelt became dry, firm ground.
     
     
    Fast forward to to-day.
    Scientists who studied the photographs and eye witness reports conclude that in those scant 8-10 minutes, the temperature would have had to rise thousands of degrees to accomplish the resulted drying effects.
     
    Thousands of degrees that would have reduced 70,000 people in 8 to 10 minutes to a field of human ash!!!!
     
    There were no reports at the time of anyone being harmed.......only healings.
     
    Conclusion      THE 'SIGN' WAS A MIRACLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: Was it really a Miracle?
    « Reply #1 on: October 12, 2017, 05:13:06 PM »
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    After the sun was seen to return to its normal place in the sky, the 70,000 witnesses realized their clothes were not only dry, but fresh and clean, as if they had been laundered, with a smell of floral freshness. Kind of like what you get with "Tide," perhaps? 
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    The best mother of all did what mothers do -- make the clothes her children wear, fresh and clean.
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    The people were soaked; they weren't wearing drip dry polyester....they were wearing wool, cotton, linen or homespun.....all of which absorbed and held the rain.
     
    Yet after those 8 to 10 minutes their clothes, hair and belongings were perfectly dry.

    8 to 10 minutes and the puddles and mud in which they stood and knelt became dry, firm ground.
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    They had been walking and standing on muddy ground in the rain, with their shoes getting stuck in the mud. Now, NORMALLY, when you have shoes stuck in the mud while the mud dries up, you get shoes really stuck because it isn't in the mud anymore, but stuck in the dry earth. But notice, there is no mention of anyone having trouble getting their shoes unstuck from dried earth. 
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    Instead, they say their clothes were clean and fresh, as if they'd been laundered. Well, then their shoes would have been clean and polished then, no? Why not? Certainly 70,000 people impressed by how fresh and clean their clothes are would not have failed to mention that it was strange their shoes were still caked by dried-on mud. But not a word of that.
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    There wasn't a word of their shoes alone remaining muddy most likely because it didn't happen, and everyone's shoes were clean and dry. How could their socks be clean and dry but not their shoes? Their socks were part of their clothing, weren't they? Did they say, "All our clothes were clean and dry except our socks?" No, they didn't.
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    But there's more.
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    In order for them to not be dried into place with ankle-deep mud turning into solid ground sticking their shoes into the soil, the whole crowd would have had to have been LIFTED UP out of the mud while the mud was drying, and nobody reports any sensation of being lifted up.
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    Very interesting, no? Nobody was aware of what must have been happening to their own bodies, while they were focused on what was going on in the sky. What we have here is Our Lady taking a dirty, miserable condition and turning it into a pristine, unsullied one, as if to remove any hint that there had even been a muddy rainstorm going on a few minutes before. Therefore, she took a corrupted scene and made it into an immaculate scene.
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    And she can do the same thing with our souls. She can take a corrupted soul and turn it into an immaculately pristine soul. She can do the same thing with our world, giving us a period of peace. 
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    O glorious and blessed Virgin, Mother of God, destroyer of all heresies, be with us by your prayers and aid.
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    Re: Was it really a Miracle?
    « Reply #2 on: October 12, 2017, 11:08:14 PM »
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    Re: Was it really a Miracle?
    « Reply #3 on: October 13, 2017, 06:55:53 AM »
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    Re: Was it really a Miracle?
    « Reply #4 on: October 13, 2017, 06:59:43 AM »
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  • Another miracle 70,000 plus people looking directly at the sun diving, dancing and zig sagging in the sky and not one eye injury.


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    Re: Was it really a Miracle?
    « Reply #5 on: October 13, 2017, 07:38:45 AM »
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  • Regina Coeli, ora pro nobis!

    Do not be afraid to abandon yourself unreservedly to His loving Providence, for a child cannot perish in the arms of a Father Who is omnipotent.

    St. Margaret Mary Alacoque

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    Re: Was it really a Miracle?
    « Reply #6 on: October 13, 2017, 11:43:26 AM »
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  • Our Lady later told Lucia that the sign would have been much more spectacular had the children not been so mistreated.

    I've wondered often what other wonderful graces heaven would have bestowed that day.

    The many were deprived because of the few.
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


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    Re: Was it really a Miracle?
    « Reply #7 on: October 13, 2017, 05:28:35 PM »
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  • Sounds like everyone was purified a little bit.


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    Re: Was it really a Miracle?
    « Reply #8 on: October 13, 2017, 10:09:56 PM »
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  • For sure, this rabbi doesn't believe the Fatima miracle is kosher.

    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Was it really a Miracle?
    « Reply #9 on: October 13, 2017, 11:31:17 PM »
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  • Our Lady later told Lucia that the sign would have been much more spectacular had the children not been so mistreated. [When the Ourem mayor kidnapped the 3 children.]

    I've wondered often what other wonderful graces heaven would have bestowed that day.

    The many were deprived because of the few.
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    One idea I've heard is that the war (WWI) could have been stopped immediately, whereas it took some months longer to stop. Or perhaps the Pope would have received the grace to make the Collegial Consecration of Russia, in which case we wouldn't have had WWII later. Remember, Our Lady had come to Fatima in response to Benedict XV praying to Our Lady in desperation only 8 days before asking for some sign to point the way for him in the Church's great need at that time.
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    There seems to be a lot that depends on how we respond. There were some loose ends left untied for another 11 years, when Our Lady again appeared to Lucia in Tuy to say "The time has come..." That time might have come a lot sooner or perhaps Our Lady may have been able to take her request directly to the Pope instead of going through Sr. Lucia. 
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    Re: Was it really a Miracle?
    « Reply #10 on: October 13, 2017, 11:52:02 PM »
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  • Thank you so much that was said eloquently and beautifully. :pray:


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    Re: Was it really a Miracle?
    « Reply #11 on: October 14, 2017, 11:07:59 AM »
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  • For sure, this rabbi doesn't believe the Fatima miracle is kosher.


    Not a chance.  This guy is too busy blinding Catholics with "science."

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    Re: Was it really a Miracle?
    « Reply #12 on: October 17, 2017, 02:45:26 PM »
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    The miracle Our Lady gave the world that day wasn't just the sun dancing in the sky.
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    She who was conceived without sin gave all those present the gift of immaculate cleansing from the effects of the rain, making them all clean as if there had never been a rainstorm in the first place.
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    What they experienced was so other-worldly that they received the gift of faith, even those whose intention had been to disbelieve. 
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    Re: Was it really a Miracle?
    « Reply #13 on: October 17, 2017, 03:29:51 PM »
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  • Our Lady is one of the truly precious blessings of the Catholic Church. 

    Our Lord chose her and gave her to us.

    :pray:

     

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