I don't care about what Jews think of me.  But I have to admit that it bothers me when Catholics accuse me of being a Marrano.

I know you are right but I still struggle with it.  

I can even see how people could have gotten that idea.  I had spent around 30 years attending the Novus Ordo and even taken university religion courses before I discovered traditional Catholicism.  When I first turned up on trad forums, my posts were heavily influenced by modernism.  It is perfectly understandable that people would see modernist influence as Jєωιѕн influence considering how closely linked they are.

I am not angry at people who did that. There is probably more need for them to forgive me than for me to forgive them.  I was a pretty obnoxious poster.  

Maybe I still am, but I like to think I have improved.   :)

Was Colonel Claus von Stauffenberg a German traitor or Catholic hero ?

How about a Catholic traitor?

I really don't see how his attempted assassination and coup of the NS govt would've benefited the Church in anyway.

Yet his actions would help accelerate the eventual  demise of the one nation that was fighting against Catholicism's enemies in Europe and abroad. Maybe he didn't see it that way, but , Hitler and Germany were indeed crushed within a year of his execution. But, was Germany better off afterwards? Was Europe any better when the anti-Christ commies took over half of it and the secualr humanists/masons took over the other half? Was the world really any better when the last real anti-Jєωιѕн/Bolshevek, anti/Masonic, antibankster/usury, etc resistance was crushed once and for all?

Tell us, has Germany or the world for that matter been a better place since the Jew-controlled Allies won that war?

Yea, take a good look around and tell me if von Stauffenberg could look himself in the mirror right now and tell himself he was ridding the wolrd of a "tyrant" and doing the right thing for his  Germany and his Church.

Germany with Hitler;



Germany since Hitler;

We're digressing. This is the last post, that stayed "on topic".  

I don't care about what Jews think of me.  But I have to admit that it bothers me when Catholics accuse me of being a Marrano.

What was to be expected, from the op's "innocent" poll this morphed into a failed attempt to discredit German Catholic bishops and has now turned out to be now an "anti-semitic" thread...

What is at issue is not Catholics vs "nαzιs".  There were the German people and their nation Germany.
There were non-Catholics and many Catholics. They were all German citizens, and many of them supporters and members of the National Socialist movement which was a legitimate response to the injustice and degradation which was forced upon that nation.

No one else came to that unfortunate country's defense after WWI. We heard little if anything from the Vatican during that period. There was no encyclical or outcry against the great injustice at Versailles which was both dominated and demanded by an over repesented Jєωιѕн minority. There was no direction as to how German Catholics were to respond or live within the horrors and perversities of Wiemar Germany.

As I understand it, the Bishop who was most responsible for Mit Brenner had conflicted with the NS government, was himself a stong sympathiser with the Jews and saw their treatment  as a violation against God's chosen people.

What has always puzzled me is why there was never any official Catholic response to the almost complete destruction of the European Catholic infrastucture by Allied bombing and shelling in many countries?
Nor were there any docuмents written against the completely immoral war aims and methods employed by the Allies. Huge numbers of Catholics in Germany's south were incinerated and suffered inhumane privations by continual attacks and bombing of civilian areas, and yet the Vatican came to the defense of a small and subversive minority in Germany rather than that of its own co-religionists. Were global politics involved at this point? Can there be any doubt?
Did Catholics in the west and the Allied services not deserve a similar encyclical warning them against the policies and tactics of their respective countries and services that were totally un-Catholic and even anti-Christian.

We're digressing. This is the last post, that stayed "on topic".  


To respond to Alaric's comments:  What did Col von Stauffenberg know about Hitler... and when did he know it?

In the  Stalinist "Red Symphony" transcripts, we learned Hitler was funded by the Rothschild elites.  
After national recovery, around 1938, when Hitler dared to print money, he became a "Bonapartist", a marked man, as they say.

WWII showed an incredible level of rabbinic sophistication in managing the "international show business".  
FDR, Churchill, Stalin, Hitler were all on the ʝʊdɛօ-masonic payroll.

But it is hard to discern reality, when the yids are running the show?  

So what did Colonel von Stauffenberg really know about the ʝʊdɛօ-masonic theater?

For example, there's a credible accusation that FDR was found dead in Georgia with a gunshot wound to the head.
The story was effectively covered-up, to claim he had a stroke.

But in the initial story, leaked, said it was a ѕυιcιdє.   A closed room gunshot, meant it could as well have been an assassin.  


FDR's closed casket covered-up the head shot
So, the warning that St. Maximilian Kolbe gave to the Freemasons was very accurate and relevant.  

In the 1930's he wrote to tell them based on the Protocols, the jews would annihilate them when the time was right.

If Col. von Stauffenberg had succeeded, at least Germany could have sued for peace, instead of undergoing total destruction.