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Traditional Catholic Faith => General Discussion => Topic started by: sedetrad on June 27, 2011, 08:00:45 PM
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http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=15012&min=20&num=10
The comments by Nono are reminiscent of Father Cekada's and his "friends" posting styles.
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Wouldn't be surprised. Some people here like Father Cedaka, David Hobson, and "Pope" Augustine just can't stop coming back under different accounts.
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Nonno must be Father Cedaka. Look at how similar his posts are to Father C's original account (Bazz).
http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=search&id=1375
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If people have some special way of knowing the precise identities of various posters I really wish they would let the rest of us in on the secret.
There are a number of similarities between posters here before Nonno that I have noticed, but how would I possibly know?
How, exactly, do those of you who know the true identities of posters, discover these facts?
Thanks.
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If people have some special way of knowing the precise identities of various posters I really wish they would let the rest of us in on the secret.
There are a number of similarities between posters here before Nonno that I have noticed, but how would I possibly know?
How, exactly, do those of you who know the true identities of posters, discover these facts?
Thanks.
It's not about knowing. It's about using your intuition to see that, given the similarities in the way these people post, you'd want to think they were the same person...
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I am positive Nonno is Father Cedaka. People all have their different posting styles. If you showed the posts of someone who posted here frequently without showing me who it was, I'd probably be able to correctly guess the user and I'm sure most others here would be able to as well. Posting styles are usually easy to recognize. That's what gave David Hobson away when he was on his Lewis account, he retained the posting style he used on his Gortan account. He posted the "important" part of his words in bold and red color. Nonno underlins the "important" parts of his posts, that's what he did on his Bazz account.
But it's not just his posting style that gives him away. When I made a post directed at him last night about being Father C, he didn't reply to my post or address if he was Father C, he just gave my post a thumbs-down (I knew it had to be him because it showed I had a new critic, and Nonno is a fairly new account). He was also sticking up for Father C on the "Removing All Doubt" thread. It's so obvious it's him.
It's pretty interesting that people like Father C and David Honson can't seem to stay away from CatholicInfo. I don't know if they're desparate to participate in a forum discussion of some sort, of if they're here to dig up informtion (I know that's why Hobson posts here, he tries to dig up dirt on Matthew to ruin his reputation, but it doesn't work because Hobson has already messed up his own reputation). What Father C and Hobson will do is wait a few months after they're banned and then come back on another account hoping people will have forgotten about them and their posting styles. But like I said, posting styles are usually easy to recognize. "Pope" Augustine will actually mix up his posting styles when he comes back, making it hard to tell if it's him sometimes. But in this case, I know Nonno is Father C. It's just so clear to see.
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I am really confused, truly I am.
Why is it that when people come here they are forced to give their real name?
Tis true I haven't read all the notes nor threads here, I would love to but just don't have the time, so I am out of the loop, especially on this about revealing true names.
Most of the people here use a moniker anyway, and only a few like GV use a moniker and give their real name as well.
Can someone please explain why only certain people are asked their I.D. and not others. I can understand why some of you want to keep their identity a secret, its a choice that Matthew allows.
Spiritus, what is your real name?
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If people have some special way of knowing the precise identities of various posters I really wish they would let the rest of us in on the secret.
There are a number of similarities between posters here before Nonno that I have noticed, but how would I possibly know?
How, exactly, do those of you who know the true identities of posters, discover these facts?
Thanks.
A linguist could probably provide a detailed analysis of specific stylistic details unique to an individual, but I think for the rest of us, writing (especially persuasive writing) is unique to an individual, like the inflection of a voice.
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I am really confused, truly I am.
Can someone please explain why only certain people are asked their I.D. and not others. I can understand why some of you want to keep their identity a secret, its a choice that Matthew allows.
Common sense would indicate that once a priest defrauds and slanders/libels members of his flock, he's given up any rights to anonymity among those whom he has caused so much trouble.
Did he say that an anonymous person was coming to the church picnic with an AK47?
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Spiritus, what is your real name?
I don't know what that has to do with anything, but I would never reveal my real name on the internet. Not that I don't trust the person who's asking me, but rather who may be reading. Especially with people like GoogleBot and Yahoo! Slurp always lurking.
I'm demanding Nonno reveal his identity because he is Father Cedaka. I'm waiting for him to admit it.
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If people have some special way of knowing the precise identities of various posters I really wish they would let the rest of us in on the secret.
There are a number of similarities between posters here before Nonno that I have noticed, but how would I possibly know?
How, exactly, do those of you who know the true identities of posters, discover these facts?
Thanks.
It's not about knowing. It's about using your intuition to see that, given the similarities in the way these people post, you'd want to think they were the same person...
:cry:
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Spiritus, what is your real name?
I don't know what that has to do with anything, but I would never reveal my real name on the internet. Not that I don't trust the person who's asking me, but rather who may be reading. Especially with people like GoogleBot and Yahoo! Slurp always lurking.
I'm demanding Nonno reveal his identity because he is Father Cedaka. I'm waiting for him to admit it.
So you are Matthew, I get it.
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Um, right. :laugh1:
I'm not even married yet. Matthew is married and has kids. I couldn't be him (unless I'm his younger brother).
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Actually, I'm Matthew.
I'm also Pope John Paul II, come down from heaven, to deliver unto all the Catholic faithful more fruits of the second Vatican council! Oh, and, did I mention that I'm scipio_a as well?
:facepalm:
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:laugh2:
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I don't know what that has to do with anything, but I would never reveal my real name on the internet. Not that I don't trust the person who's asking me, but rather who may be reading. Especially with people like GoogleBot and Yahoo! Slurp always lurking.
FWIW I can & do respect your choice, but believe me those who want to know will know; GoogleBot etc., are the least of our worries.
Hiding names changes nothing that is going on. In fact, I used to share the same view many years ago, but no more. I just try - as best a possible - to 'Fear none but God'!
But still, if we are really wanting certain people to be open, I think it's best to lead by example. As I said on the 'Removing all doubt' thread, it's not too difficult to avoid suspicion and even convince a reasonable person of your identity. I attempted to offer my example on that thread, and thus asked if Nonno (or Cekada as some believe) could do the same. If not then it does, naturally, create a little suspicion, whether justified or not.
God bless,
Craig
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I agree, and feel if I want to demand someone tell me who they are, I must be willing to post my full name on the Internet as well.
Perhaps a private email might be a better choice if there really is a need to know.
That is just my take on this.
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There is a need to know because this individual has been banned several times under several different internet names. There is a rule against signing up under multiple names to post after a person has been banned. I am bringing this to posters attention so that Matthew can look at this person's pos6st and decide for himself if this is one of the multiple "Father Cekada's".
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There is a need to know because this individual has been banned several times under several different internet names. There is a rule against signing up under multiple names to post after a person has been banned. I am bringing this to posters attention so that Matthew can look at this person's pos6st and decide for himself if this is one of the multiple "Father Cekada's".
It seems to me that a PM to Matthew is a more appropriate way to deal with your suspicion.
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There is no doubt a similarity between the posts from Nonno and Bazz.
As far as revealing stuff on the internet, I just don't want my name out there. There are several people here who don't like revealing alot about their personal life except for their views on religion and politics, and I'm one of them. I have nothing to hide. I just don't like letting the world know everything about me.
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My question...
I wasn't around here much when Bazz was a member (or perhaps just didn't feel like reading through that stuff). Did someone establish with certainty that Bazz = Fr. C, or was this just the opinion of the majority?
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I believe he got caught in a corner with respect to some questions about himself that he refused to answer. Matthew told him to answer them or be banned.
Sorry this is a little vague, Mater, but I am sure Matthew remembers better than I.
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Did he say that an anonymous person was coming to the church picnic with an AK47?
:laugh2: No, he certainly did not.
For those who do not know, the rumor was spread that I was going to go postal and use my AK-47, a gun which I did not own and have never owned, to take out the people of sgg.org/cult.
I only learned about some of these wild lies much later, but I believe the first fear-mongering story involved my possibly going wacko at Midnight Mass on 12/24/08, which is the day I sent the initial email. Other lies followed and the bit about the parish picnic was in late September 2009 (the Ode to Reality had been released in early July). Having learned that I had just come into town, the VoV quickly spread the idea that I intended to come to the parish picnic and get my kicks by means of a little premeditated mass murder.
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My question...
I wasn't around here much when Bazz was a member (or perhaps just didn't feel like reading through that stuff). Did someone establish with certainty that Bazz = Fr. C, or was this just the opinion of the majority?
Bazz was on another thread when he was given 5 minutes to answer a question, and missed it, so he was banned.
I was never convinced it was Fr. C, and I have asked many times how people "know" the identities of posters they dislike. I have never received a good answer.
I'm glad you asked, Mater.
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My question...
I wasn't around here much when Bazz was a member (or perhaps just didn't feel like reading through that stuff). Did someone establish with certainty that Bazz = Fr. C, or was this just the opinion of the majority?
Bazz was on another thread when he was given 5 minutes to answer a question, and missed it, so he was banned.
I was never convinced it was Fr. C, and I have asked many times how people "know" the identities of posters they dislike. I have never received a good answer.
I'm glad you asked, Mater.
I thought Bazz was several people posting under one account. AJC was one of them. There are certain styles in posting and Fr. Cekada and Bp. Sanborn have written much and it is all public. Certain phrases are used, etc.
If I was banned from here and came back, you'd see it in my posts.
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Did he say that an anonymous person was coming to the church picnic with an AK47?
:laugh2: No, he certainly did not.
For those who do not know, the rumor was spread that I was going to go postal and use my AK-47, a gun which I did not own and have never owned, to take out the people of sgg.org/cult.
I only learned about some of these wild lies much later, but I believe the first fear-mongering story involved my possibly going wacko at Midnight Mass on 12/24/08, which is the day I sent the initial email. Other lies followed and the bit about the parish picnic was in late September 2009 (the Ode to Reality had been released in early July). Having learned that I had just come into town, the VoV quickly spread the idea that I intended to come to the parish picnic and get my kicks by means of a little premeditated mass murder.
:laugh1: :roll-laugh2: :roll-laugh1: :laugh2:
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PFT,
While I agree that it is, in a way, wildly funny, that is only the tip of the iceberg where the assassination of my character is concerned. No, I do not lose sleep over it, but it is good for people to get it through their heads that the Vipers of Vaudeville are NOT decent men -- and their slimy influence affects much more than just a little section of Ohio.
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I thought Bazz was several people posting under one account. AJC was one of them. There are certain styles in posting and Fr. Cekada and Bp. Sanborn have written much and it is all public. Certain phrases are used, etc.
If I was banned from here and came back, you'd see it in my posts.
This is only your little opinion. Is your style so distinctive and unique? In writing, art and music there are always those who imitate the styles of others. Always. We can't see actual handwriting on our computer screens...but even handwriting is forged.
My opinion is that Bazz never displayed the type of wit and satire Fr. C is famous for, and is seemingly incapable of suppressing. But that is only my opinion-I have no way of knowing the facts.
And I have no idea at all why the adversaries of Fr. C would want him banned, and thus lose the golden opportunity to battle for Truth and Justice, face-to-face as it were.
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Bazz I believe is a name with a connection of some sort to Cedaka's name. I forgot exactly what that connection is, but it was definitely Father Cedaka. Nonno posts with the exact same posting style as Bazz did. He underlines certain words and puts others in quotations. He was also sticking up for Father C in the Crisis section. He's definitely Father C. And even if he's not, he probably still needs to be banned because he's clearly a Cedaka follower.
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And I have no idea at all why the adversaries of Fr. C would want him banned, and thus lose the golden opportunity to battle for Truth and Justice, face-to-face as it were.
I agree completely. Let him come on the site, openly or anonymously. Everything he touches turns to dung at this point and he is constitutionally incapable of keeping his mouth shut (yes, I know I am rather loquacious, too). He is undoing himself; let him carry on...by whatever means he thinks are best...
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Why argue with Father Cedaka? He's nutty, no point in keeping him around. People like that who are rooted deep in extremism (like David Landry and David Hobson as well) cannot participate in debate because they're to caught up in whatever it is they're involved with to look at both sides of an argument logically.
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PFT,
While I agree that it is, in a way, wildly funny, that is only the tip of the iceberg where the assassination of my character is concerned. No, I do not lose sleep over it, but it is good for people to get it through their heads that the Vipers of Vaudeville are NOT decent men -- and their slimy influence affects much more than just a little section of Ohio.
I'm sorry. I just can't believe people on -any- tangible scale, would believe horse manure like that.
It just sounds hilarious to me, knowing you're nothing like that kind of person.
I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings by laughing about it. :sad:
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I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings by laughing about it.
No, not at all. I died laughing the first time I was told about it :)
If I am sad about anything, it is only because many people I have known and loved as good friends are still being worked over by the Vipers of Vaudeville. Still, the process is not over and many may yet choose to leave sgg.org/cult.
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I have once been accused by SS of using another account. This has never been true even one time. For the record my real name is chris j marasco. :cheers:
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I never doubted your honesty, Roscoe.
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Thank U Eliz
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I am hardly surprised to see a statement by SS that he will 'never' reveal his name on the Net.
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And there's something wrong with me not wanting to reveal my name on the internet that's full of identity theft and wackos because?
And I commented on how I thought it was wierd, roscoe, that you were getting thumbs-up for posts that said pratically nothing. I originally thought you might be David Hobson since you both believed in Siri thesis and used the word "Jansenist" alot but realized the odds of Hobson painting himself as a pot-smoker are slim.
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btw-- i have completely boycotted the thumbs program from the beginning.