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Offline ServusSpiritusSancti

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VoxClamantis: Not the "real" Vox
« on: January 23, 2012, 07:59:25 PM »
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  • Regarding this "VoxClamantis" person who just signed up, he/she is not the real Vox. No way. First of all, I figured out that the reason "Vox's" flag keeps changing is because he/she is using a proxy server to disguise their location, and I believe I read on another thread that Matthew does not allow proxy servers to be used here. Secondly, this person has made 27 posts in a matter of hours, many of which are crazy.

    I also just talked to someone who currently posts on FE (who will remain un-named) who said they read this thread and didn't think it was Vox. They thought it was perhaps Vetus Ordo parodying her (the thread "Vox" linked was about Vetus Ordo!). So this is not the real Vox and this person needs to be banned. Don't fall for this person's tricks.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.


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    VoxClamantis: Not the "real" Vox
    « Reply #1 on: January 23, 2012, 08:01:35 PM »
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  • Obviously it's not the real VoxClamantis. Read his/her posts. It's filled with sarcasm mocking Vox.

    I say let him/her stay.


    Offline ServusSpiritusSancti

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    VoxClamantis: Not the "real" Vox
    « Reply #2 on: January 23, 2012, 08:06:55 PM »
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  • Why stay? This forum already gets too many trolls (i.e "Pope Augustine II, David Hobson, and so forth). We don't need someone who trolls the boards left and right because they're mad at what happened to them on another forum. CatholicInfo shouldn't have to suffer because of something that happened on FishEaters. Besides, Matthew usually bans people who use proxy servers, I believe.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    VoxClamantis: Not the "real" Vox
    « Reply #3 on: January 23, 2012, 08:10:34 PM »
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  • Trolling in the form of mocking Vox should be an exception to the rule.

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    VoxClamantis: Not the "real" Vox
    « Reply #4 on: January 23, 2012, 09:01:16 PM »
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  • He remembers banning moi about 3 yrs ago.
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'


    Offline ServusSpiritusSancti

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    VoxClamantis: Not the "real" Vox
    « Reply #5 on: January 23, 2012, 09:41:27 PM »
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  • Anyway, it's Vetus Ordo. The FE source I talked to also said that Vetus has a past history of pretending to be other people and is mad at the real Vox for banning him so he's apparently mocking Vox to get back at her. Why he's doing it on CatholicInfo, I have no idea. But anyway Vetus, you've been exposed. Be a man and admit it's you instead of hiding behind that fake internet persona.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    VoxClamantis: Not the "real" Vox
    « Reply #6 on: January 23, 2012, 09:53:08 PM »
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  • I agree.  Mocking Vox is a good and healthy thing to do.

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    VoxClamantis: Not the "real" Vox
    « Reply #7 on: January 23, 2012, 10:02:23 PM »
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  • I don't know anything about Vox or Fisheaters, but this pseudo-Vox has some kind of agenda that looks like a white-power kind of thing, and is trying to use feeble reverse psychology.  

    There is a lot of it going around.  And I knew Tele, who is clearly affected, would fall for all this stuff a long time ago.  It is almost as if the devil sends certain people onto this site to flatter the egos of certain members and lead them astray.  The devil like a roaring lion goes about seeking whom he will devour.

     Tele is weak and wounded, a sitting duck for all kinds of lies, which he has begun to swallow.  I know how the devil works.  Tele, due to his pride, instead of seeking out the truth, seeks out those who will flatter him, and guess who is ready and willing to provide?   Eamon did the same thing.  He was so susceptible to flattery it was disturbing, he only wanted to listen to those who treated him like some kind of hero.

    I can see these flaws a mile away.  You have to live for God and for truth alone, not for your own brittle ego.
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.


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    VoxClamantis: Not the "real" Vox
    « Reply #8 on: January 23, 2012, 10:45:51 PM »
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    There is a lot of it going around. And I knew Tele, who is clearly affected, would fall for all this stuff a long time ago.


    Raoul my views have never changed once on these issues in all the time I've been here.  You're living in your fantasy world again, where you imagine you're a seer and have unique insight into other people.

    I suppose you've never heard of the French Gobineau either, if you want to talk about racialism as some sort of exclusively anglo-german perspective.  It's really silly.

    I'm not a racialist btw.  That doesn't mean I'm going to play the cultural marxist game of branding people as nαzιs for standing up to quasi-marxists who hate white Americans.

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    VoxClamantis: Not the "real" Vox
    « Reply #9 on: January 23, 2012, 11:02:17 PM »
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  • Why would I have to be a seer to figure out how you think, when I have your own words?  Being perceptive is not based on mind-reading, only in drawing conclusions based on factual indications, like a detective.

    You're right, you've had those views, but they were kind of bubbling under the surface before.  Now you are more vocal about them and are going further in that direction, which is about the deadest of dead ends imaginable.
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.

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    « Reply #10 on: January 23, 2012, 11:09:04 PM »
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  • lol I guess if you're going to change your story midstream it's hard to claim to be the seer.

    If I'm being any more vocal it's strictly a matter of being hammered for them by our resident Zoot suits and Quebecers.

    PereJoseph's anti-anglo rhetoric is palpably marxist in the depth of its hatred.

    The only position I've ever taken on these issues is the same position that all civilized people took for granted 100 years ago.

    It isn't wrong to recognize value in one's race.  It isn't wrong to recognize value in one's nationality, even if historically that nationality has not been Catholic.  It isn't wrong to recognize value in one's own native language.

    Now we see minorities acting in culturally aggressive ways, and in ways that typify certain obnoxious traits, which they feel quite free to act upon because of the supine position of the non-Jєωιѕн non-liberal white Americans.


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    « Reply #11 on: January 23, 2012, 11:21:02 PM »
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    I suppose you've never heard of the French Gobineau either, if you want to talk about racialism as some sort of exclusively anglo-german perspective.  It's really silly.

    I'm not a racialist btw.  That doesn't mean I'm going to play the cultural marxist game of branding people as nαzιs for standing up to quasi-marxists who hate white Americans.


    See my post in the other Vox thread about "websites he doesn't recommend" where I talk about how the new breed of white-power types claim not to be white-power types so as to avoid unsavory associations.  Which is what you're doing here.

    If you aren't a "racialist" then why do you know Gobineau or defend racialism -- new term for me -- as not being exclusively anglo-German?  Why would you care?  Clearly you have the belief that certain races are superior to others.

    I will tell you, racial intermixing is not all that the Jєωs are trying to foment.  Because this fear of the black males like Seal stealing all the white women is another media illusion created by the Jєωs, inciting people to fight against each other and to get trapped in these useless racial squabbles.  Why do you think they promoted that couple so much?  It's not just to incite people to interracial marriage, but to incite people to racial hate.  Just read various comments on chat rooms about that couple, it is like a lightning-rod for white power types.  

    So it is you falling for the Marxist i.e. Jєωιѕн brainwashing, because the Catholics simply did not have these views, they didn't put such a primacy on race.  It's just a fact.  There is no Catholic writing you can come up with from the pre-VII era that sounds anything like this stuff that Vox is promoting.  It is Prots who were excessively concerned with race.  As grotesque as the sɛҳuąƖ explosion of the last fifty years is, it's not about race, but just about the fact that it is complete unbridled license of all kind that we're seeing, experimentation with other races, experimentation with both sexes, experimentation with various perversions, etc.  The cure for this is not some kind of genetic determinism showing that blacks are inferior, but Catholic marriage.

    Name one saint who says what you say.  ONE.  There aren't any, despite times in the past like in Italy when women were marrying Moors, a wave that eventually burned out.  Like most errors, it's based on an exaggeration, race-mixing is not the foremost threat out there, if you want to say it's a threat at all.  Proving that the Apostasy has anything to do with race-mixing will be hard, however, since it began at a time when it was practically unheard of, except for some rare "pioneer" examples.  It is in the 90's that it really exploded, so how can you say if it's a cause or an effect or simply irrelevant?  

    The trap is very easy to see once you have overcome that initial wave of unreflecting anger.  And please don't tell me you don't think like that.  
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.

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    « Reply #12 on: January 23, 2012, 11:25:25 PM »
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    See my post in the other Vox thread about "websites he doesn't recommend" where I talk about how the new breed of white-power types claim not to be white-power types so as to avoid unsavory associations


    I don't care about unsavoury associations.  If I did wouldn't say anything at all.

    That's another marxist technique by the way: "you're claiming not to be guilty, therefore you must be guilty."

    That's a favorite these days.  Especially among "trads"

    My views are no different than the views that nearly all Europeans once took for granted.

    Your calling people names for having such views says a lot more about you than it does about those who express them.

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    VoxClamantis: Not the "real" Vox
    « Reply #13 on: January 24, 2012, 01:48:21 AM »
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  • Quote from: The Real Vox Clamantis
    I just banned two people and am looking to ban a few more. I know how it will turn out, though: they'll mail me and call me a liberal or feminαzι or "Jєω-lover" or whatever, will most likely run off to another forum and go on about how FE is liberal and not even close to "traditional," etc.


    This is all true.

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    « Reply #14 on: January 24, 2012, 02:16:14 AM »
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    If I'm being any more vocal it's strictly a matter of being hammered for them by our resident Zoot suits and Quebecers.


    I'm Acadian, not Quebecois.

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    PereJoseph's anti-anglo rhetoric is palpably marxist in the depth of its hatred.


    You have no idea what you're talking about.  You seem to have this knee-jerk compulsion to see and feel and sense Marxism in the face of somebody disagreeing with you on your beliefs about race.  Yet, you haven't demonstrated how anything I have said is Marxist at all.

    I have the mediaeval position on the matter of race; I have experience living around many other races -- whether German or sub-Saharan African -- and have my own opinions about their common attributes.  It is really absurd to accuse me of being culturally Marxist, given just a small sample of what I have posted on this forum regarding relations between the sexes, forms of government, World War II, Zionism and international finance, and the role of the father.  Then again, you have no proof for any of your accusations and seem to use whatever accusation you think might work, so maybe I don't even need to defend myself against what you say.

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    The only position I've ever taken on these issues is the same position that all civilized people took for granted 100 years ago.


    You mean all Protestant and liberal people who followed that novelty.  You have not in any way yet demonstrated that your beliefs were shared by Catholics in the Middle Ages.

    As for your obsession with the concepts and definitions associated with the nation-state, well, if you can't see beyond the pretenses of the nation-state, your sensus catholicus is seriously impoverished.