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Offline ProtectorofOrder

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Voluntary defence force against Muslim aggression?
« on: December 13, 2014, 08:51:33 PM »
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  • With the recent aggression of Islam some kind of defense force is necessary for protection. Recently a pastor of another denomination was beaten to death trying to protect his children and they beated his children to death too. The Vatican II is completely useless and fails to protect Christianity from aggression at all.

    Do you think the mobilisation of a volunteer force to protect all of Christianity against Muslim aggression and violence organised by SSPX would work and help recruit people into it?

    It could be a completely voluntarily program with a name such as "Templars" organised by someone such as an influential SSPX congregation member or clergy to show that SSPX is the true church. I imagine it would also attract a lot of Muslim-Haters who want a reason to fight them.

    They could patrol Christian places such as pastor and priest homes most at risk of Christians being attacked carrying batons, baseball bats or even swords to protect Christians incase the aggressors are armed with machetes in countries where they can't carry firearms. If people knew it was SSPX they would learn to trust the SSPX over the corrupt Vatican II.

    Would this work? Why or why not?

    In Australia I heard since burning Qurans isn't illegal, as an act of protest and demoralisation Qurans could be burned in protests against them by anti-islamic demonstrators or the volunteers. I'm seriously looking forward to doing so one day if legally possible and I manage to get my hands on one without buying it, I have been wronged by Muslims in the past.


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    Voluntary defence force against Muslim aggression?
    « Reply #1 on: December 13, 2014, 09:17:14 PM »
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  • These volunteer Templars will respond as soon as Muslim aggressors attack Christians, Christian sites or try to break into a christian home they are patrolling. I doubt a volunteer program could be infiltrated, if you do think so then state why so I may learn.

    They will be independent from any secular government of today.


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    Voluntary defence force against Muslim aggression?
    « Reply #2 on: December 13, 2014, 09:43:14 PM »
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  • The only "voluntary defense force" needed against Muslim aggression is to kick out Arabs, Africans, Asians, and Turks out of Western countries. It's that simple. It only requires the will of the national government.

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    Voluntary defence force against Muslim aggression?
    « Reply #3 on: December 13, 2014, 09:47:39 PM »
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  • Quote from: Traditional Guy 20
    The only "voluntary defense force" needed against Muslim aggression is to kick out Arabs, Africans, Asians, and Turks out of Western countries. It's that simple. It only requires the will of the national government.


    Wrong.  To depend upon states to stop Muslim importation means certain defeat.  

    The Crusades, themselves, were volunteer.  

    A volunteer force is exactly and the only way to physically protect Christians.  
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    Voluntary defence force against Muslim aggression?
    « Reply #4 on: December 13, 2014, 09:52:06 PM »
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  • Quote from: LaramieHirsch
    Wrong.  To depend upon states to stop Muslim importation means certain defeat.  

    The Crusades, themselves, were volunteer.  

    A volunteer force is exactly and the only way to physically protect Christians.  


    I admit that relying on our current officials would be lunancy, however if there was a good, descent government they would halt the Muslim immigration.



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    Voluntary defence force against Muslim aggression?
    « Reply #5 on: December 14, 2014, 09:44:32 PM »
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  • Isn't a volunteer defence force what the Taliban have?

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/11/afghanistan-taliban-murder-800-muslim-clerics-who-disagreed-with-their-tactics-and-ideology

    How is it working out for them?

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    « Reply #6 on: December 14, 2014, 10:00:45 PM »
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  • Muslims have just captured and are holding 50 people hostage with a black flag at where I live: http://www.smh.com.au/national/flag-being-held-by-lindt-chocolat-cafe-hostages-is-not-an-islamic-state-flag-20141215-1279s0.html

    Stupid gun control.

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    « Reply #7 on: December 14, 2014, 11:51:12 PM »
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  • Quote from: ggreg
    Isn't a volunteer defence force what the Taliban have?

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/11/afghanistan-taliban-murder-800-muslim-clerics-who-disagreed-with-their-tactics-and-ideology

    How is it working out for them?


     :applause:

    Precisely.  So now, why not the Christians, too?





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    Voluntary defence force against Muslim aggression?
    « Reply #8 on: December 15, 2014, 04:27:21 AM »
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  • An update 15 minutes ago:

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/martin-place-siege-sydney-cbd-cafe-workers-held-up/story-e6frg6nf-1227156254036?nk=bfef142addce3a519b1fea3f574dae46

    A note some interest is

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    8.21pm: A heartwarming hashtag is trending on Twitter, as events unfold in Sydney’s siege. Hundreds of commuters are volunteering to ride with Muslims as they travel to work tomorrow. #illridewithyou is attracting plenty of attention, Brighette Ryan reports.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    Voluntary defence force against Muslim aggression?
    « Reply #9 on: December 15, 2014, 04:53:54 AM »
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  • Quote from: LaramieHirsch
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    Isn't a volunteer defence force what the Taliban have?

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/11/afghanistan-taliban-murder-800-muslim-clerics-who-disagreed-with-their-tactics-and-ideology

    How is it working out for them?


     :applause:

    Precisely.  So now, why not the Christians, too?



    Because there are not enough, we are not united and of one mind, we cannot morally kill those within our ranks who would oppose us and the only people suggesting the idea are blowhards and keyboard warriors who just like to fantasise about this stuff.  I use "we" Andy"us" to describe those who believe themselves to be some part of this fantasy.

    The 911 truth movement hasn't even tried to overthrow the US government or αssαssιnαtҽ anyone in the executive branch of government, despite the fact that for well over a decade they've been convinced that the US government killed 3000 citizens in cold blood in order to affect geo-politics.  What is it going to take to get them off their asses?

    There is absolutely no chance of a popular uprising or a Christian crusade.  Sh!t people can't even get The Resistance to function properly.  One minute you are singing priest's praises and the next attacking him for his wacko red-light stance and publishing your names on the Internet.

    Half of you would be bitching and going AWOL as soon as they ran out of Twinkies at boot camp.

    Then you'd turn the other half into the authorities because they were not "godly" enough or some such bollocks.

    My advice, lower your sites from a new crusade and a Christian revolution to holding down a job, developing an attractive personality, managing your finances and finding a woman who wants to marry you.  That is a big goal, for you, but much easier than waging a new crusade or even setting up a "Guardian Angels" paramilitary style organisation for nerds.

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    « Reply #10 on: December 16, 2014, 02:04:45 AM »
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  • It could just be an anti-Muslim group for now simply made up of people who just hate islam from all areas and want to fight them. Howcome there already is an armed paramilitary force patrolling the Texas border to keep out illegal immigrants? They are doing fine for example.

    The patrolling would be done in urban or suburban areas and in other nations made up of people who hate islam too.

    I doubt they aren't a threat if they are already killing people. Next thing you know when you think there shouldn't be a paramilitary one of them shows up ready to try to decapitate you with a machete.

    Islam and terrorism are inseparable concepts. All Muslims are terrorists.


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    « Reply #11 on: December 16, 2014, 02:13:46 AM »
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  • They have already seized a building literally and had 50 people hostage at gunpoint. You say they aren't a threat?

    One could show up infront of you with a machete or several could team up to break into your house like with the pastor. It is only realist to have such an organisation, people need protection and many are not armed.

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    « Reply #12 on: December 16, 2014, 02:51:52 AM »
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  • Besides there are actually plenty of people who hate islam. Those people could be recruited to protect others from it.

    The first priority is to safeguard against Islam and hopefully remove the threat when it shows it's true face by having them all put into camps to be deported or placed into re-education centres.

    If done in the name of Christianity it could gain more support from people from this. As they would be grateful at what saved them.

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    « Reply #13 on: December 16, 2014, 04:27:36 AM »
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  • Quote from: ProtectorofOrder
    It could just be an anti-Muslim group for now simply made up of people who just hate islam from all areas and want to fight them. Howcome there already is an armed paramilitary force patrolling the Texas border to keep out illegal immigrants? They are doing fine for example.

    The patrolling would be done in urban or suburban areas and in other nations made up of people who hate islam too.



    So what would you do, when, reporting into the Captain of the group, you were asked to patrol the mean streets of Smallville, with your new partner "Gail", a 200 pound, virulently, anti-Muslim pre-op transɛҳuąƖ and former cage fighter.

    Or your partner was a feminist woman?

    Or a die-hard atheist.

    All of these groups hate Islam.  Would you compromise and go along to get along in order to achieve the number one goal of fighting Islam?

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    « Reply #14 on: December 16, 2014, 05:56:00 AM »
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  • SSPX could never do it; they don't have the manpower and funding to make it viable.

    You would need an effort led by the Pope of Rome -- unfortunately the pacifist Bergoglio doesn't have the guts to do it.  He'd rather see Christians slaughtered than to battle the Muslims.

    What's more, he could command that every Catholic in the world spend a day of fasting and pray 15 decades of the Rosary as a crusade against the Muslims (along the lines of Lepanto), but this man is a criminal delinquent who cares for nothing but the welcoming of militant ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs to the altar.