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Video response to Gillette's ad attacking men.
« on: January 18, 2019, 05:46:16 PM »
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    Offline Seraphina

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    Re: Video response to Gillette's ad attacking men.
    « Reply #1 on: January 18, 2019, 08:10:07 PM »
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  • I assume the Gillette ad is on tv?  I don't own or watch tv.  The ad here, I think is good.  So Gillette now markets to fαɢɢօts?  Too bad.


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    Re: Video response to Gillette's ad attacking men.
    « Reply #2 on: January 18, 2019, 08:29:17 PM »
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  • I assume the Gillette ad is on tv?  I don't own or watch tv.  The ad here, I think is good.  So Gillette now markets to fαɢɢօts?  Too bad.
    I thought I'd seen the original, but what I watched wasn't all that bad. Either it was the wrong video or people are making a very big hubbub about something that wasn't all that offensive.
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    Re: Video response to Gillette's ad attacking men.
    « Reply #3 on: January 19, 2019, 12:16:53 AM »
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  • I thought I'd seen the original, but what I watched wasn't all that bad. Either it was the wrong video or people are making a very big hubbub about something that wasn't all that offensive.
    I think I get the social undercurrent, but it's somewhat pathetic that a watch company is the only one talking about it, for their commercial benefit.

    And they have to use Negroes to make their point.  They must consider White men too dangerous to represent men?

    Here's a link on The rising culture of misandry (hate for men)
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    Re: Video response to Gillette's ad attacking men.
    « Reply #4 on: January 19, 2019, 09:46:08 AM »
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  • The commercial was actually telling men to be men, and protect weaker people. 


    Now everyone is like “oh my gosh! How could they tell us to step in when we see someone in danger?” 


    If you see someone being bullied. Stop it.


    If you see a man being aggressive towards a woman (I don’t care what you think she is.) Stop it.

    Why is everyone so upset about it...? Because they used the term toxins masculinity? Well that behavior is toxic. They for once used that term in the correct format, and everyone is still offended.


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    Re: Video response to Gillette's ad attacking men.
    « Reply #5 on: January 19, 2019, 10:10:00 AM »
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  • The commercial was actually telling men to be men, and protect weaker people.


    Now everyone is like “oh my gosh! How could they tell us to step in when we see someone in danger?”


    If you see someone being bullied. Stop it.


    If you see a man being aggressive towards a woman (I don’t care what you think she is.) Stop it.

    Why is everyone so upset about it...? Because they used the term toxins masculinity? Well that behavior is toxic. They for once used that term in the correct format, and everyone is still offended.
    Couple problems with it. First of all toxic masculinity is basically the left's equivalent of a dog whistle. It's their way of saying "all masculinity is toxic" without blatantly saying it in a way that'd cause a huge backlash. It's similar to how feminists like to imply that traditional women are "brainwashed" by their husbands or that femininity was forced by the patriarchy, it's their way of telling feminine women to stop being feminine in a way that avoids directly attacking them, to again prevent a backlash. 

    Secondly, it's just plain condescending. Men have always been weak, evil and nasty creatures who are only now becoming decent people because feminists are telling them how to be. It's basically saying "Shut up white man and do what The Young Turks tell you to do or you're toxic". 

    Thirdly, the #MeToo movement being about sɛҳuąƖ harassment is another lie. The #MeToo movement started when women who whored themselves out to Harvey Weinstein so he'd give them roles later turned on him. Think about it, they went to his apartment alone with him, said they consented because apparently they felt "pressured", got their roles in return for it, became famous, and then DECADES LATER(after appearing with him many times on TV, praising him in interviews, doing nothing to stop this apparent rapist hurting other women) when they no longer needed him they come out and say this nonsense. It's clear that Weinstein is a scuмmy pervert piece of shit, but it's also clear those women traded sex for roles and then regretted years later after they already became famous. 

    And then following on from the "movement" that that started, we were all told we must always believe women who claim they were sɛҳuąƖly harassed even with 0 evidence. They nearly stopped Kavanaugh's appointment based on an account with no evidence, no corroborating witnesses, and multiple proven falsehoods. And yet we were all told we were evil for not accepting it without question. That was the point of the #MeToo movement, so they could turn sɛҳuąƖ assault accusations into a way to shut down people they didn't like with no trial. Guilty until proven innocent(and even then still probably guilty).

    Fourthly, it portrayed ordinary horseplay as being toxic. The bullying and harassment in the video I understand, horseplay between kids is in no way toxic. That again is an example of them trying to turn men into low T softies. The scene I mean is the one at the barbecue, where both kids are clearly laughing and enjoying themselves. And yet that's "toxic masculinity"? 

    Fifthly, it portrayed a man saying "Hi" to a woman as sɛҳuąƖ harassment later on in the video. Which is just ridiculous. Women get away with groping men yet if a man says hello to a woman we're now meant to crucify him? 

    And finally those scenes of dozens of boys chasing one kid to beat him is such a ridiculous and unrealistic fantasy scenario designed to just make men look like natural savages who women(preferably feminists) need to tame.

    So at the end of the day, what was good about the ad? The one or two seconds where they tell you not to sɛҳuąƖly harass women or bully people, except the issue there is that anyone doing either of those things is not just some misguided soul who hasn't seen the right Gilette ad to tell him how to be a good person yet. They won't stop because of some ad. So it's just useless at stopping them and condescending to the rest of us.

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    Re: Video response to Gillette's ad attacking men.
    « Reply #6 on: January 19, 2019, 01:53:51 PM »
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  • Why is everyone so upset about it...? Because they used the term toxins masculinity? Well that behavior is toxic. They for once used that term in the correct format, and everyone is still offended.

    It's because the term strongly suggests:
    "masculinity is toxic".

    You have a lot to learn about how they propagandize people.

    And you must put it into the context of the all-out war against traditional masculinity and the promotion of feminism.

    They make no distinction between masculine traits that are beneficial and good, when properly exercised, and the ABUSE of these traits.  [This response video tries to balance it out correctly.]  Consequently, there's a strong implication that men are bad, women are good.  To be good, men must become more like women.  Etc. etc. etc.

    Now, take for example, the notion of bullying.  That is NOT toxic MASCULINITY but toxic sinful humanity.  Believe it or not, FAR MORE GIRLS bully other girls than boys bully boys.  So suggesting that bullying is somehow limited to men is yet another slur against men.  I would suggest that bullying is toxic femininity (if I were to play their game).  One could JUST AS EASILY make a video about "toxic femininity" ... where feminine traits become harmful and counterproductive (things like vanity, envy, immodesty, impurity).

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    Re: Video response to Gillette's ad attacking men.
    « Reply #7 on: January 19, 2019, 01:57:46 PM »
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  • I thought I'd seen the original, but what I watched wasn't all that bad. Either it was the wrong video or people are making a very big hubbub about something that wasn't all that offensive.

    See my comments to vintagewife.  It's about the term "toxic masculinity" which STRONGLY implies and programs people's minds with the proposition:  "masculinity is toxic".  Since the terms are used together, it creates an association between the two in people's minds.  Men need to be more like women in order to be "good".


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    Re: Video response to Gillette's ad attacking men.
    « Reply #8 on: January 19, 2019, 02:00:40 PM »
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  • forlorn, you are spot on.  People don't understand how propaganda works.

    I made my comments before I had read yours, and we both see clearly what's going on here.

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    Re: Video response to Gillette's ad attacking men.
    « Reply #9 on: January 19, 2019, 02:16:25 PM »
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  • I think I get the social undercurrent, but it's somewhat pathetic that a watch company is the only one talking about it, for their commercial benefit.

    And they have to use Negroes to make their point.  They must consider White men too dangerous to represent men?

    Here's a link on The rising culture of misandry (hate for men)
    This.

    Also, I see as equally pathethic that men now became somehow "victimized", as well. It's an equally feminizing tactic.

    No truly masculine man want to play or be the victim.

    Pity is a form of contempt.
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

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    Re: Video response to Gillette's ad attacking men.
    « Reply #10 on: January 19, 2019, 05:59:18 PM »
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  • Now, take for example, the notion of bullying.  That is NOT toxic MASCULINITY but toxic sinful humanity.  Believe it or not, FAR MORE GIRLS bully other girls than boys bully boys.  So suggesting that bullying is somehow limited to men is yet another slur against men.  I would suggest that bullying is toxic femininity (if I were to play their game).  One could JUST AS EASILY make a video about "toxic femininity" ... where feminine traits become harmful and counterproductive (things like vanity, envy, immodesty, impurity).
    And such a video would even further their agenda. The goal very much seems to try and "unsex"(so to speak) both men and women and, even beyond that, to destroy even the concepts of "man" and "woman" with their "gender spectrum" nonsense. 
    I remember reading a comment on an article about "toxic masculinity" where someone asked what would be the equivalent "toxic femininity". And of course, all the answers were things like staying at home to raise the kids, submitting to their husband, dressing modestly, and in general doing any of those evil things that the evil nebulous circle of men known as the "patriarchy" forced women of every culture everywhere to do for thousands of years. 


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    Re: Video response to Gillette's ad attacking men.
    « Reply #11 on: January 19, 2019, 06:45:56 PM »
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  • ... someone asked what would be the equivalent "toxic femininity". And of course, all the answers were things like staying at home to raise the kids, submitting to their husband, dressing modestly, and in general doing any of those evil things that the evil nebulous circle of men known as the "patriarchy" forced women of every culture everywhere to do for thousands of years.

    :facepalm:

    These are diabolical beasts who call good evil and evil good.

    At one point in the Gillette ad, they denounce men who are behaving impurely at what appears to be a pool party ... but we're supposed to ignore the women running around like sluts in immodest bikinis, flirting with the men.  And if they were to seduce a man, a couple weeks later, after experiencing buyer's remorse, they'd be crying rape and joining the #metoo movement.

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    Re: Video response to Gillette's ad attacking men.
    « Reply #12 on: January 19, 2019, 08:12:07 PM »
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  • If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

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    Re: Video response to Gillette's ad attacking men.
    « Reply #13 on: January 19, 2019, 08:35:04 PM »
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  • ::)
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

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    Re: Video response to Gillette's ad attacking men.
    « Reply #14 on: January 19, 2019, 08:41:31 PM »
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  • And if they were to seduce a man, a couple weeks later, after experiencing buyer's remorse, they'd be crying rape and joining the #metoo movement.

    They also do it for attention - seeking and sɛҳuąƖ signaling (as to signal they are or were at some point too desirable, men could not resist them ::)). I notice many women do this, especially if they are, or become unattractive for any reason, and are unable to actually seduce anyone.
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.