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Offline aussiemum

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Very sad
« on: February 19, 2012, 03:09:10 AM »
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  • I joined this forum not long ago in the hopes of meeting and learning more about the wonderful catholic faith and have found nothing but hateful, sad individuals here on this forum that make a mockery of the bible and its teachings and push away those who choose to be nice caring people and learn.
    I have found judgemental,narky, hateful people and narrow minded people.
    God did not put us on this earth to judge others, that is his job and to judge leaves you open to face his wrath or enter his heaven depending on whether judgement has been right and not one made through hate or appearence.
    I do not and will not judge anyone on this forum but I do judge the way I have been left feeling from the treatment I have received on this board.
    I think with this I bid you all farewell and hope that the lord looks after you well, I think I shall just stick to my bible readings, my church, my bibe study groups and other more welcoming, throughtful forms of learning and socializing with wonderful christians.
    Thank you and God Bless
    P's I did not mean to come up with that'smash pc' thing in the topic subject I think I must have accidentally hit something and I dont know how to fix it- sorry please ignore that.


    Offline spouse of Jesus

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    Very sad
    « Reply #1 on: February 19, 2012, 03:18:26 AM »
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  •   I can empathize with you aussiemum, but it is not because of people's faith or lack of faith. Everybody is sad, cynical and nervous nowadays. It happens because there people are under so much pressure. Ok catholics have to be different but.....


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    Very sad
    « Reply #2 on: February 19, 2012, 07:50:14 AM »
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  • Quote from: Cupertino
    It sounds to me like you are over-reacting.


    I agree. You can't judge an entire group of people based on the comments of one or two individuals. Just because some of us are, shall we say, more vocal than others, doesn't mean we all think the same way.

    I would try sticking around a little longer if I were you. Of course, if you decide that participating on internet forums is not your thing, that's fine, too.
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    « Reply #3 on: February 19, 2012, 09:12:19 AM »
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  • This may be an over-reaction in degree, but there is often a real lack of charity here.  Often we don't present a very good face for the Faith.  I have certainly been guilty of this too.  Maybe Lent would be a good time to work on changing that.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

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    « Reply #4 on: February 19, 2012, 09:15:13 AM »
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  • Quite often, one who is brought up with an anti-Catholic and modernistic mindset will find true Catholic principles to be overly-harsh and judgmental. Once one realizes they have been indoctrinated into this anti-Catholic mindset, and that this was done purposefully in order to prevent further conversion to the True faith, they find that what once felt uncomfortable, or judgmental and hateful, to them was actually educated persons acting like Catholics, using their minds to judge what information they've been given, as we all do, and should; lest we become the robots some want of us, unable to perceive good and evil around us.  

    I read through all your posts, which didn't take long given that you only had 11 at the time, and found nothing that you should have taken offense to. So, I'm sorry you've found us to be sad and hateful here, and I hope you are able to take more time to find out exactly how this forum thinks, as its not that. I hope that your spiritual life will develop further, and that God and our Lady may keep you.


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    Very sad
    « Reply #5 on: February 19, 2012, 10:57:36 AM »
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  • Not having read any of assuliemum's notes, I do not know where he/she stands, however I will say that the novus ordo puts much emphasis on diversity, love, and touchy feeling; it is plain to see that the result for some is almost robot/puppet mentality.  So if someone like that believes that IS the Catholic way, they are shocked to see, that Catholics sometime do debate, especially now in times of crisis.  

    Yet, I believe that we all do care for each other, I know I pray for the people on the forum, not that they think like I do, but we just save our souls.  That is what true charity is, according to the Church.  
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    Very sad
    « Reply #6 on: February 19, 2012, 12:29:22 PM »
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  • Quote from: aussiemum
    I joined this forum not long ago in the hopes of meeting and learning more about the wonderful catholic faith and have found nothing but hateful, sad individuals here on this forum that make a mockery of the bible and its teachings and push away those who choose to be nice caring people and learn.
    I have found judgemental,narky, hateful people and narrow minded people.
    God did not put us on this earth to judge others, that is his job and to judge leaves you open to face his wrath or enter his heaven depending on whether judgement has been right and not one made through hate or appearence.
    I do not and will not judge anyone on this forum but I do judge the way I have been left feeling from the treatment I have received on this board.
    I think with this I bid you all farewell and hope that the lord looks after you well, I think I shall just stick to my bible readings, my church, my bibe study groups and other more welcoming, throughtful forms of learning and socializing with wonderful christians.
    Thank you and God Bless
    P's I did not mean to come up with that'smash pc' thing in the topic subject I think I must have accidentally hit something and I dont know how to fix it- sorry please ignore that.
    That's the way it is nowadays, disagreement is now defined as "judgemental" or "hate".

    This is one of the favorite of the communist/liberal tactic, accuse anyone and everyone of being some kind of tyrannical despot because they might stand firm in their convictions and doctrines and dogmas of the faith.

    Such narrow-minded, hateful folk they are.

    And it seems ironic that you are in fact being quite "judgemental" yourself in your accusations.

    And God most certainly does require us to "judge others" when it concerns the faith.

    Too many go ahead and twist scripture for their own unsound logic and reasoning.

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    « Reply #7 on: February 19, 2012, 12:31:37 PM »
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  • I must agree with Cupertino. This is nothing more than over-dramatic whining. And to say we shouldn't judge and then proceed to judge this forum? What hypocrisy.

    I looked at his posts and it looks like the only thing he got upset about was what Telesphorus said on another thread, and what Tele said was not uncharitable or anything! If this guy thinks that is uncharitable, he has yet to see what uncharitable really is.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.


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    « Reply #8 on: February 19, 2012, 01:43:28 PM »
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  • Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
    I must agree with Cupertino. This is nothing more than over-dramatic whining. And to say we shouldn't judge and then proceed to judge this forum? What hypocrisy.

    I looked at his posts and it looks like the only thing he got upset about was what Telesphorus said on another thread, and what Tele said was not uncharitable or anything! If this guy thinks that is uncharitable, he has yet to see what uncharitable really is.


    The "he" you are referring to is a "she".


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    « Reply #9 on: February 19, 2012, 02:06:05 PM »
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  • Quote from: s2srea
    Quite often, one who is brought up with an anti-Catholic and modernistic mindset will find true Catholic principles to be overly-harsh and judgmental. Once one realizes they have been indoctrinated into this anti-Catholic mindset, and that this was done purposefully in order to prevent further conversion to the True faith, they find that what once felt uncomfortable, or judgmental and hateful, to them was actually educated persons acting like Catholics, using their minds to judge what information they've been given, as we all do, and should; lest we become the robots some want of us, unable to perceive good and evil around us.  

    I read through all your posts, which didn't take long given that you only had 11 at the time, and found nothing that you should have taken offense to. So, I'm sorry you've found us to be sad and hateful here, and I hope you are able to take more time to find out exactly how this forum thinks, as its not that. I hope that your spiritual life will develop further, and that God and our Lady may keep you.


    Actually, I am thinking about different flavors of trads insulting each other.  Being only a semi-trad conservative NO type, I expect a certain amount of abuse here.  Up to a point, of course.   :wink:
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    « Reply #10 on: February 19, 2012, 03:40:58 PM »
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    I must agree with Cupertino. This is nothing more than over-dramatic whining. And to say we shouldn't judge and then proceed to judge this forum? What hypocrisy.

    I looked at his posts and it looks like the only thing he got upset about was what Telesphorus said on another thread, and what Tele said was not uncharitable or anything! If this guy thinks that is uncharitable, he has yet to see what uncharitable really is.


    The "he" you are referring to is a "she".


    Ah, you are right. My mistake.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.


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    « Reply #11 on: February 19, 2012, 03:56:41 PM »
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  • Quote from: Sigismund
    This may be an over-reaction in degree, but there is often a real lack of charity here.  Often we don't present a very good face for the Faith.  I have certainly been guilty of this too.  Maybe Lent would be a good time to work on changing that.


    Well said.

    I suppose I am as guilty as the next guy, and maybe more.

    FUnny thing: If you met me I am really a nice guy.

    But when it comes to posting on the internet, I just sink right into battle mode.

    Not sure why.

    Pride, I suppose.

    Anyway, I would ask Aussiemum to stay put here, as she has given us all food for thought......without ever uttering a doctrinal position. :scratchchin:
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    « Reply #12 on: February 19, 2012, 04:13:36 PM »
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  • Quote from: s2srea
    Quite often, one who is brought up with an anti-Catholic and modernistic mindset will find true Catholic principles to be overly-harsh and judgmental. Once one realizes they have been indoctrinated into this anti-Catholic mindset, and that this was done purposefully in order to prevent further conversion to the True faith, they find that what once felt uncomfortable, or judgmental and hateful, to them was actually educated persons acting like Catholics, using their minds to judge what information they've been given, as we all do, and should; lest we become the robots some want of us, unable to perceive good and evil around us.  

    I read through all your posts, which didn't take long given that you only had 11 at the time, and found nothing that you should have taken offense to. So, I'm sorry you've found us to be sad and hateful here, and I hope you are able to take more time to find out exactly how this forum thinks, as its not that. I hope that your spiritual life will develop further, and that God and our Lady may keep you.


    Absolutely true. And coming from NO 'catholicism' I experienced this realization myself.

     A slow realization that it was not 'others' who needed more (false) charity, but *I* who needed better catechesis.

    To the OP, aussiemum: perhaps internet fora are not for you. If you find this place uncharitable, you will be burnt to a cinder elsewhere, except in places where the resonant frequency is a deeply NO catholicism, where you will find plenty of groupthink to sate you. You will find the thought police at CAF to your liking I suspect.

    No one hates you, no one is 'mean'. In fact, they care about your sould in a real sense.

    It would be great if you could stay and keep an open mind, but I suspect you're seeking a group hug, and there just isn't that type of atmosphere here. It is often serious 'bare knuckle' theology.

    And stay or go, I would hope no one would pander to this post.

    Stay, you have as much a right to be here as anyone else, but if you want to take your toys and go home...

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    « Reply #13 on: February 19, 2012, 04:16:04 PM »
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  • Quote from: Iuvenalis
    If you find this place uncharitable, you will be burnt to a cinder elsewhere, except in places where the resonant frequency is a deeply NO catholicism, where you will find plenty of groupthink to sate you. You will find the thought police at CAF to your liking I suspect.


    I completely agree with you. Did you previously post at CAF?
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #14 on: February 19, 2012, 04:32:49 PM »
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  • A lot of people take an uncharitable pleasure in accusing others of lack of charity.  The subtext is often "I am more charitable than you."  I have seen some in the SSPX pull this routine on sedes; as if their position is inherently more "charitable" than ours.

    I can only urge people to study false charity.  It's true that some sedes can be uncharitable, and mine wasn't always the greatest.  But let's face it, has any sede here ever been as horrifically uncharitable as Caminus?  So there was a clear double standard on this site; and that is not charitable.  

    So we all have work to do  :cheers:
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.