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VCII: heart of the mass to be retrieved from Traditional "clutter"
« on: November 08, 2009, 11:31:21 AM »
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    « Reply #1 on: November 08, 2009, 11:35:12 AM »
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    The Council wanted the heart of the mass to be retrieved from a lot of the clutter.


    And Ben Bernanke is actually trying his best to heal our economic wounds...
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    VCII: heart of the mass to be retrieved from Traditional "clutter"
    « Reply #2 on: November 08, 2009, 12:08:51 PM »
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    • This sounds like the childrens´ history book from Orwell´s "1984"!

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    VCII: heart of the mass to be retrieved from Traditional "clutter"
    « Reply #3 on: November 08, 2009, 07:59:09 PM »
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    • There is nothing spiritually uplifting in the Novus Ordo
    Missae. It is to noisy, the music in many cases is terrible.
    abuse is accepted. translations are false. The priest adlibs, and
    substitutes his own words. Is there grace coming from these
    Masses?  Are they valid?  Everything is horizontal, and
    not vertical. Everything points to the earthly existence,
    and not the afterlife.  
    This is my impression of the reformed mass when I
    attended in the 1970's and 1980's.
    I never get these impressions when I attend the 1962
    Mass celebrated by the Priests of SSPX.
    It must be that I am an older generation that
    remembers when the Trinitine Mass was celebrated in
    every Catholic Church throughout the world, and that
    my early life was a sane time for the Catholic Church
    because of its clear, and concise teachings, that is
    still with me today.
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    VCII: heart of the mass to be retrieved from Traditional "clutter"
    « Reply #4 on: November 09, 2009, 12:26:52 AM »
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    • RC, I was born after the Council and God has given me the grace to see the truth of Tradition and the madness of the suburban NO.

    The folk and rock Masses are obviously ridiculous, but you will find conservative Novus Ordites and even some Neo Trads defend them under the guise of diversity. It is astounding.
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