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Viva Cristo Rey · « **on:** February 25, 2013, 01:12:27 PM »

Nun on buses are very liberal novus ordo "nuns" who support abortion, contraceptives, female priests, and even Pope etc. These are the same nuns who were at democratic convention where God was booed. Recently, in Camden, New Jersey "sister" simone campbell spoke at a conference for social and economic justice blasting the republican budget plan of representative ryan.

Not one pro life group protested her appearance. The former NO bishop and the new NO bishop gave the approval. When the Pope announced that he was resigning the fame seeking nun sister simone campbell gave an interview on CNN pushing her feminist agenda of female priests.

Same time in Southern New Jersey. So called catholic democratic assemblyman is pushing for ѕυιcιdє bill for the elderly and terminally ill.

The democrats are working hard to elimate homeschooling. President obama is mandatingn pre school for all children. Recently , in New Jersey they were working towards messing with homeschooling and many of us got together and called one another and made calls to the congressmen. We did put the the pressure on them again with same sex marriage in southern new jersey.

Pelly · « **Reply #1 on:** February 25, 2013, 01:18:41 PM »

This is really a big problem. The collapse of the Church is accompanied by a rampant rush of filth.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #2 on:** February 25, 2013, 01:24:00 PM »

The bottom line is that we need to stop fighting among ourselves and start fighting the real enemies which are the masons and communists.

the corrupt politics of new jersey/ New york etc is intertwined with the novus ordo liberal dioceses.

No one from Berlin Mater ecclesia wrote any articles to defend the faith. Hello and wake up. How can you be part of a parish under a diocese which is no longer Roman Catholic. Being a traditional Catholic means more then just assisting at the Latin Mass. We are called to be Catholics in everything we do including work and play.

By the way when the New bishop was installed, it should have been at the traditional Cathedral in Camden not the ugly modern church in Blackwood. And the whole world was watching.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #3 on:** February 25, 2013, 01:45:22 PM »

The novus ordo sees itself as a worldwide organization. They sure do see their secular role as the primary purpose for the church.

Tonight, at some local novus ordo church, I am planning on attending a lecture on Vatican II. It's part of a speaker series during Lent and all the lectures will be concerning Vatican II.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #4 on:** February 25, 2013, 01:47:11 PM »

Quote from: Pelly

This is really a big problem. The collapse of the Church is accompanied by a rampant rush of filth.

For years , even as a child I could see things that were not right.
I was part of the original "trouble makers of the novus ordo" when we were fighting the Church closings. I thought about my great grandparents and my grandparents who were persecuted right in southern new jersey.
Crosses burnt on the front lawn because Mass of all time was being offerred at their home because during those times there was no Church. The priests had to wear disguises and dodge bullets because there was much hate for Catholics.

Yes, how many churches and parishes were destroyed by the KKK and the know nothings in Philadelphia/New Jersey. How many people were murdered and brutalized? How many Irish disappeared only recently to be found in mass grave in Pennsylvania.

We don't hear about that. All we hear over and over like a broken record is the h0Ɩ0cαųst which didn't even happen in America.

My ancestors had Mass at their home and probalby travelled to other secret places. In our area the first Catholics of Southern New Jersey held Mass in at Wistar glass factory in Salem County, New Jersey as brave German priests from St. Joes from Pennsylvania came to offer Mass.

Then Vatican II came in the 60's during peace,love, rock roll, drugs and sex and hippies. Yes, hippies who would later become the greedy ceos of big corporations. Many Catholics were upset with thse liberal changes. The priests, nuns and embraced these changes.

Many Catholics left the Church altogether for protestant or stopped going. Vocations drastically dropped. And for the rest of us , we were stuck to suffer the 60's music and guitars...yuck..and liturgical dancing and stupid boring homilies.

If it wasn't for the traditional Catholics, priests and Bishop Lefebvre meeting in homes and hotel rooms, there would be no true Catholic faith or Sacraments.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #5 on:** February 25, 2013, 01:52:42 PM »

Quote from: Capt McQuigg

The novus ordo sees itself as a worldwide organization. They sure do see their secular role as the primary purpose for the church.

Tonight, at some local novus ordo church, I am planning on attending a lecture on Vatican II. It's part of a speaker series during Lent and all the lectures will be concerning Vatican II.

Wow. Same Vatican II series is happening in Cherry Hill New Jersey at st thomas more church.

As a matter of fact the new bishop when asked about year of faith. he says in black and white that he wants everyone to learn about vatican II. Nothing about attending Mass or praying the Rosary but Vatican II.

If I attend, they would call the cops on me for real.

I do plan on responding to a recent newpaper article in regards to nun on bus.
With sister carol keehan making over a million dollars in salaries andbenefits where is the social and economical justice when many people in our area are moving out of new jersey because they can no longer afford the hight property taxes and cost of living.

The new bishop spoke of helping the poor as the former bishop retires to luxury jersey shore home.

Marlelar · « **Reply #6 on:** February 25, 2013, 02:24:27 PM »

Quote from: Capt McQuigg

The novus ordo sees itself as a worldwide organization. They sure do see their secular role as the primary purpose for the church.

Tonight, at some local novus ordo church, I am planning on attending a lecture on Vatican II. It's part of a speaker series during Lent and all the lectures will be concerning Vatican II.

Please post your comments about this meeting, it will be interesting to learn about their latest propaganda.

Marsha

Tiffany · « **Reply #7 on:** February 25, 2013, 02:45:08 PM »

Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey

Quote from: Pelly
This is really a big problem. The collapse of the Church is accompanied by a rampant rush of filth.

For years , even as a child I could see things that were not right.
I was part of the original "trouble makers of the novus ordo" when we were fighting the Church closings. I thought about my great grandparents and my grandparents who were persecuted right in southern new jersey.
Crosses burnt on the front lawn because Mass of all time was being offerred at their home because during those times there was no Church. The priests had to wear disguises and dodge bullets because there was much hate for Catholics.

Yes, how many churches and parishes were destroyed by the KKK and the know nothings in Philadelphia/New Jersey. How many people were murdered and brutalized? How many Irish disappeared only recently to be found in mass grave in Pennsylvania.

We don't hear about that. All we hear over and over like a broken record is the h0Ɩ0cαųst which didn't even happen in America.

My ancestors had Mass at their home and probalby travelled to other secret places. In our area the first Catholics of Southern New Jersey held Mass in at Wistar glass factory in Salem County, New Jersey as brave German priests from St. Joes from Pennsylvania came to offer Mass.

Then Vatican II came in the 60's during peace,love, rock roll, drugs and sex and hippies. Yes, hippies who would later become the greedy ceos of big corporations. Many Catholics were upset with thse liberal changes. The priests, nuns and embraced these changes.

Many Catholics left the Church altogether for protestant or stopped going. Vocations drastically dropped. And for the rest of us , we were stuck to suffer the 60's music and guitars...yuck..and liturgical dancing and stupid boring homilies.

If it wasn't for the traditional Catholics, priests and Bishop Lefebvre meeting in homes and hotel rooms, there would be no true Catholic faith or Sacraments.

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The protestant church I grew up in was almost 100% Catholics. Many of my peers were baptized Catholic some had FHC. My great grand parents were Catholic immigrants but they left the Church. They had a large family though and their eldest son was grown when they left so he remained Catholic. I remember she said the priests never stopped coming after her parents to come back. I wish I could thank them for their efforts.

I heard of horrible things though regarding how children were treated like in the Catholic schools they wrote the children's names on the board whose families didn't contribute to the tithe? Or that the religious person was never question even when a child reported abuse.

Also with nuns, that some nuns wouldn't submit to a medical exam unclothed even when they had breast cancer?

Great post VCR, it is inspiring to read what our ancestors suffered though to keep the faith.

Tiffany · « **Reply #8 on:** February 25, 2013, 02:46:08 PM »

Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey

Quote from: Capt McQuigg
The novus ordo sees itself as a worldwide organization. They sure do see their secular role as the primary purpose for the church.

Tonight, at some local novus ordo church, I am planning on attending a lecture on Vatican II. It's part of a speaker series during Lent and all the lectures will be concerning Vatican II.

Wow. Same Vatican II series is happening in Cherry Hill New Jersey at st thomas more church.

As a matter of fact the new bishop when asked about year of faith. he says in black and white that he wants everyone to learn about vatican II. Nothing about attending Mass or praying the Rosary but Vatican II.

If I attend, they would call the cops on me for real.

I do plan on responding to a recent newpaper article in regards to nun on bus.
With sister carol keehan making over a million dollars in salaries andbenefits where is the social and economical justice when many people in our area are moving out of new jersey because they can no longer afford the hight property taxes and cost of living.

The new bishop spoke of helping the poor as the former bishop retires to luxury jersey shore home.

Property taxes there are outrageous. My friends who live there pay more in property tax than I survive on in a year.

Anthony Benedict · « **Reply #9 on:** February 25, 2013, 04:08:36 PM »

Quote from: Marlelar

Quote from: Capt McQuigg
The novus ordo sees itself as a worldwide organization. They sure do see their secular role as the primary purpose for the church.

Tonight, at some local novus ordo church, I am planning on attending a lecture on Vatican II. It's part of a speaker series during Lent and all the lectures will be concerning Vatican II.

Please post your comments about this meeting, it will be interesting to learn about their latest propaganda.

Marsha

Actually, just reading pre-1989 back issues of Pravda will tell you all you need to know.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #10 on:** February 25, 2013, 04:17:03 PM »

Quote from: Anthony Benedict

Quote from: Marlelar
Quote from: Capt McQuigg
The novus ordo sees itself as a worldwide organization. They sure do see their secular role as the primary purpose for the church.

Tonight, at some local novus ordo church, I am planning on attending a lecture on Vatican II. It's part of a speaker series during Lent and all the lectures will be concerning Vatican II.

Please post your comments about this meeting, it will be interesting to learn about their latest propaganda.

Marsha

Actually, just reading pre-1989 back issues of Pravda will tell you all you need to know.

:roll-laugh2:

I am looking forward to tonight's lecture.

I'm interested in seeing what angle they try to tell the story. And how the speaker will present the concept to the room.